Dec 16, 2025 City Council

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE THAT.

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[I. CALL TO ORDER]

A LITTLE BIT OF A ZIGZAG.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE NICE OVER THE HOLIDAYS. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME OF THE ICE OFF MY THINGS OUTSIDE.

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE STILLWATER CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR DECEMBER 16TH, 2025. BETH WILL CALL, PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BELLEN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ODEBRECHT HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

PAULINA HERE. MAYOR KOZLOWSKI HERE.

AND WITH THAT, IF EVERYONE WOULD RISE AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON.

THE FIRST COUPLE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING ARE CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION FOR

[1. Certificate of Appreciation for Pat Lockyear and Carrie Simon (Library Board of Trustees)]

AS MOST OF YOU OR SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, MOST OF OUR CITY IS RUN BY VOLUNTEERS OR MOSTLY VOLUNTEERS. WE'RE MORE OR LESS VOLUNTEERS SITTING UP HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT, BUT THEN ALL OF OUR VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WE HAVE ABOUT 50 PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ALL VOLUNTEER FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY. AND SO WHEN THEY DECIDE TO RETIRE OR MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS, WE LIKE TO GIVE THEM CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION.

SO WITH THAT, ON BEHALF OF GRATEFUL, GRATEFUL CITY, AND UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF ITS LEADING CITIZENS, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL HEREBY EXTEND RECOGNITION TO CARRIE SIMON FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS OF SERVICE AS A TRUSTEE ON THE STILLWATER PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND FOR PATRICIA OR PAT LOCKYER FOR EIGHT YEARS OF SERVICE AS A TRUSTEE ON THE STILLWATER PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

SO THANK YOU, PAT AND CARRIE RYAN.

I KNOW YOU'VE WORKED WITH THESE TWO VERY CLOSELY, AND I HAVE GOT AN AMAZING LIBRARY BOARD. WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE LIBRARY BOARD AND, THE LOSS OF BOTH KERRY AND PAT.

THIS ONE STINGS A LITTLE BIT FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD.

KERRY HAS BROUGHT A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH, AS WELL AS ADVOCACY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TO REPRESENT THE LIBRARY.

SO IT'S SAD TO SEE HER GO.

AND THEN PAT LOCKYER HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL AS THE BOARD CHAIR.

I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH HER AND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE, SO IT'S SAD TO SEE THEM BOTH GO, BUT I WISH THEM BOTH WELL.

YEAH. THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I HOPE YOU'RE WATCHING. BUT YEAH, PAT AND KERRY, PAT'S BEEN A FIXTURE IN OUR TOWN FOREVER.

SHE'S ALWAYS INVOLVED AND WILLING TO HELP OUT WITH THAT.

MOVING ON. I'VE GOT A BIG STACK OF CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION FOR OUR

[2. Certificate of Appreciation for Stillwater’s 2025 Tree Lighting]

AND IT'S IT'S REALLY SOMETHING.

IT REALLY HAPPENED ORGANICALLY.

EVERYBODY JUST KIND OF STEPPED UP, LIKE WE DIDN'T LIKE.

IT WASN'T LIKE THIS WAS A CITY EVENT WHERE WE SAID, WE NEED SOMEONE TO DO THIS OR DO THAT.

EVERYBODY JUST KIND OF STOOD UP AND SAID, I CAN DO THIS, I CAN DO THAT. AND WE TURNED DOWNTOWN STILLWATER INTO A WINTER WONDERLAND.

AND SO WE HAVE LOADS OF PEOPLE TO THANK.

SO AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF GRATEFUL CITY, AND UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF ITS LEADING CITIZENS, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL HEREBY EXTENDED RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION TO YOU, OF COURSE, OUR GOOD FRIEND CHRIS ARMIT AT APPEL FARM.

THAT'S WHERE THE TREE CAME FROM.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ALL SAW THE STORY, BUT HIS GRANDFATHER, WHO STARTED THE ORCHARD, I THINK HE WAS A METEOROLOGIST AT THE U.

HE WAS ABLE TO FIGURE OUT BACK IN LIKE THE 60S, THAT HAIL HAS A TENDENCY TO MISS STILLWATER BECAUSE THE HEAT OF THE CITY AND HOW STORMS WRAP AROUND. AND HE THOUGHT IT WAS A PERFECT PLACE FOR AN ORCHARD.

WHAT HE DID NOT REALIZE WAS PLANTING THIS PINE TREE SO CLOSE TO THEIR BARN WOULD BE A PROBLEM. BUT APPARENTLY HIS SON SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT THAT TREE DOWN.

YOU'RE PLANTING IT TOO CLOSE TO THE BARN.

AND 60 YEARS LATER, WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CHRISTMAS TREE IN DOWNTOWN STILLWATER.

SO HUGE THANKS TO CHRIS AAMODT AND THE WHOLE FAMILY, HIS WONDERFUL WIFE, BILLIE JO, FOR THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF OUR HOLIDAY TREE INSTALLATION FOR THE 20 2526 SEASON.

I ALSO NEED TO THANK OUR GOOD FRIENDS AT ALCHEMY SOUND AND VISION MY BUDDY PAUL LARSON AND HIS SIDEKICK TAD FOR DOING ALL THE SOUND.

THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF THE AV CLUB OF STILLWATER FOR ALL EVENTS, ALL NONPROFIT THINGS. THEY BRING THE SOUND, THE LIGHTS, THE MUSIC.

THEY WORK OUT THERE IN FREEZING COLD. THEY'RE USED TO WORKING INDOORS AT LIKE, YOU KNOW, CLUBS AND CONCERT VENUES AND THINGS, AND WE MAKE THEM STAND OUTSIDE WHEN IT'S -20 AND STRING LIGHTS TOGETHER, AND THEY DO IT WELL WITH SMILES ON THEIR FACE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, PAUL.

AND EVERYBODY AT ALCHEMY, WE ALSO HAVE BIG SKY CRANE COMPANY.

YOU NOTICE THAT TREE IS HUGE. WE ALL SAW WE'VE ALL SEEN THIS TREE SO FAR, RIGHT? IT WEIGHED 6,500 POUNDS.

IT'S MASSIVE. IT'S BY FAR THE BIGGEST TREE WE'VE EVER HAD.

AND BIG SKY CRANE, THEY DO THE PUMPKIN DROP FOR HARVEST FEST,

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AND THEN I LOVE THIS ONE. MOVING ON TO YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY FAVORITE CITIZENS, MY DAD, BOB TURRENTINE.

FOR HIS GENEROUS SUPPORT, HE BASICALLY STANDS OUT THERE AND FREEZES WITH MY MOM WHO PUTS ON THE WHOLE SHOW.

SO THANK YOU, PAPA, FOR THAT.

AND OF COURSE, CUB FOODS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WE'RE CUB TOWN.

THIS IS WHERE CUB STARTED.

AND CUB VIRTUALLY SUPPORTS EVERY SINGLE EVENT WE DO IN STILLWATER AND BEYOND STILLWATER.

THEY'RE THE BEST COMMUNITY PARTNER WE COULD HAVE. WE'RE LUCKY TO BE IN A CUB TOWN.

ANYBODY REMEMBER THE CRAYONS USED TO GO TO CUB WITH RIGHT WHEN YOU'D HAVE TO MARK THE PRICES ON EVERYTHING YOU HAVE THE RED CRAYONS.

RIGHT, I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER, RIGHT, I'M, I'M, I'M AGING MYSELF A LITTLE BIT, BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WAS YOU KNOW, THEY HAD THE WHITE BOX THAT SAID MILK ON IT AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE HOMETOWN FOR THE HOLIDAYS COMMITTEE. SO THAT'S A BIG COMMITTEE FULL OF CITIZENS FROM DOWNTOWN COUNCIL THAT GET TOGETHER TO KIND OF PUT THE FINAL PLANNING TOGETHER ON WHO'S DOING WHAT, WHERE WITH THE FIREWORKS, WITH SANTA COMING ON A FIRE TRUCK.

IT'S JUST THERE'S JUST SO MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS. IT'S ALMOST EVERYBODY IN STILLWATER TOUCHES US ON SOME LEVEL. AND THEN, OF COURSE, OUR GOOD FRIENDS JEFF AND MISSY HAAS. IT WAS REALLY THIS.

THIS WHOLE THING STARTED WITH MY MOM'S IDEA. EVER SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID, MOM SAID, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A GIANT CHRISTMAS TREE? WHY DON'T WHY DOESN'T DOWNTOWN STILLWATER LOOK LIKE JUST THE QUINTESSENTIAL CHRISTMAS VILLAGE? AND SHE ALWAYS DREAMED THAT SHE WANTED IT TO LOOK LIKE SHE WAS WALKING INTO A SNOW GLOBE IN DOWNTOWN STILLWATER.

SO WHEN I BECAME MAYOR, I SAID, LET'S DO IT.

BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY BANDWIDTH TO PICK OUT CHRISTMAS TREES. SO SHE CONVINCED HER GOOD FRIENDS, JEFF AND MISSY HOWES TO HELP SCOUT TREES.

AND SO JEFF AND MISSY WOULD DRIVE AROUND LOOKING FOR APPROPRIATE TREES AND KNOCK ON DOORS AND SAYING, HEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS FOR THAT TREE KIND OF THING. SO THANK YOU, JEFF AND MISSY AND OF COURSE MY MOM, LINDA, WHO WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT.

BUT MOM WAS KIND OF THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THE IDEA OF OUR LITTLE CHRISTMAS VILLAGE.

SO THANK YOU, MAMA. APPRECIATE IT.

AND OF COURSE, MILLER EXCAVATING. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT TRANSPORTED THE TREE AND ALWAYS TRANSPORT THE TREE TO GET IT FROM POINT A TO POINT B, WHICH, IF ANY OF YOU SAW THE VIDEO THIS YEAR, REQUIRED SHUTTING DOWN MYRTLE STREET IN BOTH DIRECTIONS AND TARPING IT SO IT DIDN'T TAKE OUT POWER LINES. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A LOGISTICAL THING.

THANKS TO OUR PD FOR HELPING OUT AND ASSISTING WITH THAT.

OH, AND LOOK AT WHO'S NEXT. STILLWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR HELPING WITH THE INSTALL AND TRAFFIC CONTROL, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY HAVE TO DO FOR CHRISTMAS TREES.

IT WAS DEFINITELY THE SCENARIO.

I'M SURE WE'VE ALL BOUGHT THE TREE OUT IN THE WOODS, AND THEN WE GET IT INTO OUR LIVING ROOM AND REALIZE IT'S BIGGER THAN IT LOOKED OUT IN THE WOODS. SAME KIND OF DEAL HERE, FOLKS.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, OUR STILLWATER PUBLIC WORKS STAFF SHAUN.

YOU AND YOUR TEAM, ROGNESS.

THE WHOLE CREW. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

WE KEEP COMING UP WITH THESE WONDERFUL IDEAS TO HAVE LIT UP GINGERBREAD HOUSES AND GIANT PRESENTS AND LITTLE ELF VILLAGES, AND THEN IT SHOWS UP IN A GIANT CRATE WITHOUT INSTRUCTIONS. AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS, THE WONDERFUL ELVES THAT THEY ARE, FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT THIS WHOLE THING TOGETHER AGAIN IN BELOW ZERO TEMPERATURES WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH GETTING SNOW OFF THE ROADS. SO A LOT OF EXTRA EFFORT IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM AND HELPING GET ALL THIS SET UP.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP.

WE'LL MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS THESE COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTMAS AKA COUNCIL MEMBER PLENA PRINTED OUT THESE AWESOME PHOTOS FOR EVERYBODY TO GO ALONG WITH, WHICH ARE AWESOME. A GREAT PICTURE FROM OUR FRIENDS AT PICTURES OVER STILLWATER AS WELL.

THAT SHOT THE WHOLE THING.

BUT IT WAS A WONDERFUL EVENT. IT KEEPS GETTING BETTER EVERY SINGLE YEAR, AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ATTEND AND THE HAPPY FACES, LIKE A FRIEND OF MINE WAS CRYING BECAUSE SHE WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE CHILDREN WHEN WE ACTUALLY LIT THE TREE AND JUST SEEING KIND OF THE JOY AND WONDER IN THEIR FACES AND JUST HOW HEARTWARMING IT WAS. SO IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THIS AND FOR ALL OF OUR COUNCIL AND STAFF AND FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR SHOWING UP AND AND SUPPORTING ALL THIS STUFF. IT WAS IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL, MAGICAL EVENING.

I DON'T THINK COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTMAS IS ALLOWED TO SHOP AT IKEA ANYMORE.

YEAH, IT'S KIND OF IT'S IT'S GOTTEN TO A COOL THING.

THE FIREWORKS WERE AMAZING THIS YEAR. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OPEN FORUM.

[V. OPEN FORUM – Public may address Council on non-agenda items. Please limit remarks to 5 minutes or less.]

I KNOW I MISSED LAST WEEK AND STUFF, BUT I'VE BEEN DOING TOO WELL.

I JUST WANT TO SAY HI TO EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE WITH DOWNTOWN.

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AND I SO APPRECIATE YOU AS A RESIDENT HERE.

I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

YOU GUYS WORK SO HARD.

AND YOU KNOW, I STILL TRY TO TALK PEOPLE INTO COMING TO THE MEETINGS SO THEY CAN LEARN ABOUT IT WORKED. YEAH, YEAH.

IT WORKED. YOU KNOW, I SAID IT TO ONE PERSON AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND SAY HI TO EVERYBODY.

AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE AND TO WISH EVERYBODY A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A BLESSED AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

YOU AS WELL. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS.

WE'LL SEE YOU IN THE NEW YEAR. YEAH.

FOR SURE, FOR SURE. ALL RIGHT, YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

AWESOME. TAKE CARE. LOVE. OKAY, YOU'RE COMING BACK, SO I'M NOT GOING TO SHUT UP.

WELL, I'M FAIRLY NEW TO STILLWATER, AND I.

I DO WANT TO ALSO THANK EVERYONE WHO PUT THE WORK INTO MAKING THIS JUST A GREAT COMMUNITY.

WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY WE MOVED HERE, WHICH WAS BECAUSE OUR GRANDCHILDREN ARE HERE.

SO THAT WAS THE MAIN CRITERIA.

BUT LIKE I SAID, WE JUST LOVE THE COMMUNITY AND THE DOWNTOWN AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE. MY NAME IS RON COSSACK, 1112 LINDEN STREET WEST.

I'M A MEMBER OF VETERANS FOR PEACE WHO HAVE LONG BEEN OPPOSED TO THE MILITARIZATION OF POLICE. AND, OF COURSE, WE'RE OPPOSED TO DEPLOYING THE MILITARY AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

I'M ALSO A FORMER PART TIME POLICE OFFICER.

SO I KNOW THE TRAINING, SUPERVISION AND ACCOUNTABILITY THAT ACTUAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE HELD TO.

ACTUAL POLICE OFFICERS ARE HORRIFIED BY THE UNPROFESSIONAL AND INCOMPETENT CONDUCT OF FEDERAL AGENTS THAT IS NOW COMMONPLACE IN OUR NEWS AND IN THE VIDEOS OF ORDINARY PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. IN RESPONSE, ORDINARY PEOPLE ACROSS THE METRO AREA AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE ORGANIZED TO OPPOSE THE HUMAN RIGHTS ATROCITIES BEING COMMITTED AGAINST ALREADY VULNERABLE AND DISADVANTAGED MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

I'M ALSO A VETERAN IN WORLD WAR TWO.

MY FATHER AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS MADE EXTRAORDINARY SACRIFICES OPPOSING FASCISM, INCLUDING MANY MAKING THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE.

I WILL NOT DENIGRATE THEIR SACRIFICE AND THAT OF MILLIONS OF OTHERS WHO SERVED BEFORE AND AFTER THEM. BY SAYING THAT WE WON'T STAND UP AND SPEAK OUT NOW BECAUSE WE MAYBE COULD LOSE SOME FUNDING. FINALLY, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I MET THE FATHER OF A FRIEND OF MINE WHO SURVIVED A NAZI WAR CAMP.

WHEN HE WAS ASKED WHY THE PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T STOP IT.

HE SAID BY THE TIME THEY REALIZED WHAT WAS HAPPENING, IT WAS TOO LATE. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE STANDING UP NOW.

WE'RE ASKING YOU TO BE AMONG THEM, HOPEFULLY BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. HELLO.

AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS JEFF RANTA.

I'VE LIVED AND WORKED IN STILLWATER COMMUNITY FOR SINCE 1981.

I CURRENTLY LIVE AT 103 ONE ONE MORRELL AVENUE NORTH, STILLWATER, MINNESOTA.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION THAT PROHIBITS THIS.

287 G AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF STILLWATER AND ICE.

AS YOU KNOW, THE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN PASSED BY THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION REGARDING HOW THE CITY OF STILLWATER DEALS WITH IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT.

I WANT TO SEE STILLWATER PROHIBIT CITY RESOURCES TO SUPPORT A 287 PROGRAM.

I WANT TO SEE IT PROHIBIT USING POLICE FROM PARTICIPATING IN ICE RAIDS WITHOUT A VALID WARRANT. OUR POLICE NEED TO FOCUS ON LOCAL CRIME, NOT FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT STILLWATER WILL BE PROMOTING POLICIES THAT WILL DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP OF FEAR, INTIMIDATION, HUMILIATION ON A NONWHITE COMMUNITY. I'M NOT AGAINST INVESTIGATING AND FINDING AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.

BUT ICE IS COMING INTO COMMUNITIES WITH MASKS, OFTEN USING PHYSICAL FORCE TO ARREST PEOPLE OF COLOR WITHOUT CAUSE.

THAT IS NOT HOW I WANT MY TAX DOLLARS SPENT.

THAT IS NOT HOW I WANT OUR LOCAL POLICE TO HANDLE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THIS COMES FROM A DEEP LOVE OF THE COMMUNITY AND ALL ITS MEMBERS.

I SPENT A CAREER TEACHING IN THE STILLWATER SCHOOLS,

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WE JUST LOVED LIVING IN STILLWATER.

ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, MY WIFE AND I HAVE TWO CHILDREN BORN IN KOREA AND TWO BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN. WHILE GROWING UP, THOSE TWO CHILDREN EXPERIENCED RACISM RIGHT HERE. BOTH ARE NOW IN THEIR 30S WITH FULL TIME JOBS IN THE TWIN CITY AREA.

BUT STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH BEING ASIAN IN A WHITE AMERICA WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR BEING TARGETED BY ICE. ARE MY ADULT ASIAN CHILDREN NEXT? I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING, BUT IT'S SCARY FOR ME PERSONALLY.

I AM A GRANDSON OF A FINNISH IMMIGRANT.

MY DAUGHTER IS THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF THREE IRISH IMMIGRANTS.

THEY WERE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.

AND THOSE GRANDPARENTS WENT ON TO HAVE CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.

THEY'RE VERY CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY.

IN CLOSING, I ASK THE CITY COUNCIL ONE QUESTION.

WOULD YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE THE NEXT STEPS ON THE 287 DRAFT RESOLUTION? AND WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THOSE STEPS TO BE COMPLETED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. HELLO. I'M GOING TO ADD TO THAT CHORUS.

MY NAME IS KEVIN BARRY I LIVE AT 3171 SUMMERFIELD GREEN OVER IN LIBERTY.

I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF STILLWATER FOR MANY YEARS, BOTH WHILE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN AFTER I CAME BACK WITH MY SECOND DAUGHTER AND WE NOW ALL LIVE HERE. I HAVE BEEN CONCERNED AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH ICE AND WATCHING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE TWIN CITIES.

THAT THEY'VE BEEN ACTIVE HERE FOR A FEW WEEKS.

STILLWATER IS A BIT FURTHER OUT, BUT EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO START MOVING OUT INTO MORE SUBURBAN AND SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS.

AND I FIND THAT I STRONGLY AGREE WITH DRAFTING RESOLUTION TO PROHIBIT 287 AGREEMENTS, WHICH DEPUTIZES SUSPICION AND ENCOURAGES THE USE OF OUR POLICE FORCES TO GO IN AND SCARE AND TAKE AND REDUCE PEOPLE'S WILLINGNESS TO TALK ABOUT REAL CRIMES THAT ARE HAPPENING, PARTICIPATE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND COME TO EVENTS LIKE THIS WHERE THEY CAN SPEAK THEIR VOICE AND BE HEARD IN A DEMOCRATIC FASHION.

I WILL ECHO THE COMMENTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAME BEFORE ME.

THIS DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A CORRECT PATH TO MOVE DOWN AND STANDING UP AS A COMMUNITY THAT IS QUITE AFFLUENT IN MINNESOTA, AND BEING ABLE TO SAY, NO, THIS ISN'T RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THIS WITCH HUNT FEELS LIKE THE STATEMENT WE NEED TO MAKE. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON DRAFTING THAT RESOLUTION, BECAUSE THIS COULD BE HAPPENING IN THE NEXT DAYS OR WEEKS THAT THEY'RE MOVING OUT HERE. SO WITH THAT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I, I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR.

WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF ENTERING INTO ANY OF THESE.

I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS 287 A WEEK AGO THAT IT WAS EVEN A THING.

SO, LIKE, WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN A ROAD TO START WORKING WITH ICE JUST SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR. SO LIKE, RIGHT, I MEAN, I, I'M NOT I'M NOT I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE AGAIN I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE IT CAME FROM.

BUT I'M LEARNING ABOUT 287.

AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO OTHER LOCAL MAYORS AND LOCAL LEADERS TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT.

IT SEEMS EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT TACTIC AND THEY'RE DIFFERENT CITIES TO TRY AND DEAL WITH THIS RIGHT NOW. BUT STILLWATER HAS NO INTENTION OF GOING DOWN THAT ROAD. JUST TO BE CLEAR, AND I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT STILLWATER WOULD EVER BE A FIT FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF 287 G'S THAT EXIST, SO I DON'T SEE IT EVEN PLAUSIBLE THAT ICE WOULD ASK US OR THAT WE WOULD ASK THEM.

IT'S VERY FAR FROM THE REALITY.

THERE'S NOT ANOTHER CITY IN MINNESOTA THAT'S ADOPTED ONE OF THESE. THERE'S NO CITIES OF OUR SIZE ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE ADOPTED THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE NOTION THAT STILLWATER WOULD SOMEHOW ADOPT AN AGREEMENT WITH ICE CAME FROM, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A FIT.

EVEN IF THE CITY WANTED TO FOR SOME REASON.

SO WITH THAT, GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE.

BUT JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW. LIKE THERE'S NO INTENTION OF US. LIKE REACHING OUT TO ICE, TRYING TO SET AN AGREEMENT UP. AND I DON'T ENVISION THEM CALLING US ANYTIME SOON TO TRY AND DO IT. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT IMMINENT.

WITH OR WITHOUT THE RESOLUTION ICE CAN SHOW UP HERE AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO AND CAUSE CHAOS AND BE CRUEL AND DO ALL THE CRAP THAT WE'RE SEEING ALL OVER THE CITIES.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DOING WHAT ICE DOES AND CITIES ARE TRYING.

BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SEEN IN THE NEWS EVERY DAY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CONTAIN THIS.

SO I WISH THERE WAS SOME MAGIC WAND WE HAD HERE IN STILLWATER.

BUT AND I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO MORE PEOPLE ABOUT IT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT SEEING A GOOD RESOLUTION TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.

SO ANYTHING THAT WE'VE SORT OF SEEN IS TO JUST NOT HAVE A LEVEL OF PREAPPROVAL OR COMPLIANCE OF IT AND THE DEPUTIZING OF OUR POLICE FORCE.

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I MEAN, AGAIN, I'M NOT HERE TO DEBATE WITH ALL OF YOU TONIGHT. LIKE, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. AND I'LL KEEP I, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE, FRANKLY. RIGHT NOW, I HAVE QUESTIONS. SO GOOD TO BE HERE. CAN I SPEAK? YEAH. GO AHEAD PLEASE. THANK YOU. I'M CYNTHIA FREDERICK, AND I'M A I LIVE AT 105 WILLIAM STREET NORTH ON THE NORTH HILL.

I LOVE LIVING IN STILLWATER.

AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO MAKE THIS TOWN SO BEAUTIFUL.

I'M ALSO A SOCIAL WORK CASEWORKER AT VALLEY OUTREACH.

I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF VALLEY OUTREACH. I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.

BUT WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF FEAR FROM PEOPLE COMING THROUGH OUR DOORS, AND WE I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING IN WRITING A RESOLUTION THAT STILLWATER IS SAYING THAT THEY WILL SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS OF COLOR AND THIS WHOLE 287 AGREEMENT PROHIBITING THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD ALL BE WRITTEN, BUT THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION CAME WITH A WONDERFUL RESOLUTION THAT THEY PASSED.

I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO BE LOOKING AT THAT.

THE IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW IS ICE IS CURRENTLY IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.

THEY ARE AROUND CIMARRON AND THAT IS PART OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE HAD SO MANY CALLS FROM SCHOOL DISTRICT MEMBERS TODAY TO VALLEY OUTREACH, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA ARE GETTING FOOD BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES.

SO IT IS HERE AND IT IS HERE NOW.

SO THAT DOESN'T JUST AFFECT THE KIDS IN LAKE ELMO.

THAT AFFECTS ALL THE CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS, BECAUSE OUR KIDS HERE GO TO THE SAME SCHOOLS AS THOSE KIDS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE HEARING ABOUT IT AND TALKING ABOUT IT, AND THAT IS GOING TO TRICKLE DOWN TO ALL OF US.

SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADDRESS.

I WAS WORKING WITH A SINGLE MOM FROM HERE IN STILLWATER WHO'S SPANISH SPEAKING, AND SHE WAS WORKING TO GET SOME FOOD TOGETHER TO TAKE TO CIMARRON RESIDENTS.

AND SO THE FEAR THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN TO GET FOOD TO OTHER PEOPLE WERE ALSO SEEING THAT, TOO.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

AND AS THE WHITE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TO HAVE THE BACKS OF THE PEOPLE OF COLOR IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY LIVE WITH THAT FEAR ALL THE TIME, AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A SENSE OF HOW DEBILITATING THAT IS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO IS TO JUST HAVE A STATEMENT, HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

WE WE SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WILL NOT SUPPORT ICE IN THIS AREA.

SO EVERY DAY WE DON'T SPEAK UP, OUR FREEDOMS DIE A LITTLE BIT, AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO SPEAK UP TO PROTECT ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.

SO I HOPE YOU CAN VOTE TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION OR WORD ONE THAT WORKS FOR YOU.

BUT WE NEED TO SPEAK UP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MELANIE EBERT, 1924 FIRST STREET ON THE NORTH HILL.

I'M I'M COLD BECAUSE MANY OF US WERE OUT TONIGHT ON MAIN STREET, LIKE WE HAVE BEEN SINCE MID-AUGUST.

WELCOMING IMMIGRANTS TO OUR TOWN.

STAND OUT THERE FROM 5 TO 6 EVERY TUESDAY SINCE MID-AUGUST.

MAYBE YOU'VE SEEN US OUT THERE.

SO IT WAS WARMER TONIGHT.

BUT STILL CHILLED. ANYHOW, I'M HERE TO SPEAK AS A SPONSOR OF REFUGEE FAMILIES THAT ARRIVED HERE THROUGH A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM IN 2023.

I VERY CLOSELY WORK WITH THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY.

AND MY, MY FOLKS THAT I WORK WITH ARE ACTUALLY DOCUMENTED.

THEY WORK IN THE HARD JOBS, LIKE HEALTHCARE CLEANING AIRPORTS AND THE JOBS THAT MANY OF US WOULDN'T DO.

BUT THEY ARE DOCUMENTED THEIR LEGAL, THEY HAVE DRIVER'S LICENSE AND AND INSURANCE, BUT THEY ARE AFRAID TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE.

MY FAMILIES DO LIVE IN SAINT PAUL.

IT'S ONLY 20 MILES FROM HERE.

BUT ICE IS IN EVERY ETHNIC GROCERY STORE THAT THEY THEY GO TO.

WE ARE NOW COMPILING A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT NEED GROCERIES AND DRIVERS TO CHAPERON THEM TO THE GROCERY STORE. I'M ALSO INVOLVED WITH THE SAINT CROIX VALLEY FOOD BANK.

A LARGE SEGMENT OF THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER.

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DO NOT FEEL SAFE TO GO TO THE FOOD BANK, AND WE HAVE SET UP A HOME DELIVERY SYSTEM FOR THEM. SO REALLY WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS, IS, IS A HUGE CRISIS OF FOOD INSECURITY, WHICH IS REALLY UNBELIEVABLE.

AND IT'S GETTING WORSE BY THE DAY.

AND IT'S HEARTBREAKING.

AND IF HUMAN RIGHTS ARE NOT ENOUGH OF A CONCERN FOR THE CITY, THERE WILL NATURALLY BE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT.

I'M SURE YOU HAVE WALKED THE LIFT BRIDGE ON THE WEEKENDS AND SEE HOW MANY INTERNATIONAL GUESTS THAT WE DO HAVE.

IF PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, THEY WILL BE AFRAID TO COME TO STILLWATER.

SO, TED THAT'S THE MOST POSITIVE FEEDBACK WE'VE GOTTEN ABOUT THE 287 G.

WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT KIND OF FEEDBACK.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS.

WE HAVEN'T. WE'VE HAD RESISTANCE.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A RESOLUTION TO BE SIGNED TO 87 G.

THAT WE WOULD NOT COOPERATE WITH ICE.

WE NEED MORE THAN YOUR WORD.

WE NEED IT DOCUMENTED.

AND WE NEED TO SHOW OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THAT THEY THEIR RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS THIERRY KELLERMANN AND I LIVE AT 924 FOURTH STREET NORTH HERE IN STILLWATER.

I AM WHITE, I DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH WITH AN ACCENT, SO IT MAY COME AS A SURPRISE, BUT I AM AN IMMIGRANT.

I'VE LIVED IN STILLWATER FOR 15 YEARS.

I GREW UP, FOR THE MOST PART IN THE UNITED STATES.

I HAVE NOW U.S. CITIZENSHIP.

DIDN'T ALWAYS. AND I LOVE STILLWATER PROBABLY AS MUCH AS ANYBODY HERE.

IF YOU DIDN'T LOVE STILLWATER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD HAVE SHOWED UP.

YOU GOT TO LOVE STILLWATER TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? THAT'S A LABOR OF LOVE.

BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT. BUT HERE'S THE THING.

SO I HAVE ENJOYED A FEELING OF BELONGING BOTH IN STILLWATER AND IN THE UNITED STATES.

I HAVE HAD OPPORTUNITIES COME TO ME.

I'VE HAD PRIVILEGES COME TO ME.

I HAVE FELT SAFE. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS THE MINIMUM THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO OFFER TO ANY IMMIGRANT WHO'S HERE OR ANYBODY WHO COMES FROM ANY OTHER COUNTRY, WHO HAS ANY OTHER SKIN COLOR, WHO SPEAKS ENGLISH WITH AN ACCENT OR DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH AT ALL. IF YOU CAN GIVE ME THOSE RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES, ANYBODY SHOULD HAVE THEM.

IN ADDITION TO THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED AND THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE READ A COPY OF, I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL TOOK THIS SAME SUBJECT UNDER CONSIDERATION LAST WEEK, AND THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO STRENGTHEN THEIR SEPARATION ORDINANCE.

AND HERE ARE SOME SOME, SOME VERBIAGE COMING FROM THE MEASURE THAT WAS PASSED BY THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

THESE ARE IDEAS THAT WE COULD ADOPT HERE, TOO.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO POINT OUT IT WAS A UNANIMOUS PASSAGE.

THERE WAS NO DEBATE. THE ORDINANCE CLARIFIES THAT CITY RESOURCES AND PERSONNEL, INCLUDING CITY CONTRACTED VENDORS, CANNOT BE USED FOR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, INCLUDING FACILITIES, EQUIPMENT, DATA, AND TECHNOLOGY.

THE ORDINANCE BANS CITY OWNED OR CONTROLLED PARKING LOTS, RAMPS, VACANT LOTS, AND GARAGES FOR BEING USED FOR STAGING, PROCESSING AND OPERATIONS BASE OR ANY OTHER SIMILAR USE IN CONNECTION WITH IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. IT BANS THE USE OF CITY RESOURCES TO SET UP A PERIMETER OR CONTROL PUBLIC AREAS TO ENFORCE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS.

IT REQUIRES ALL CITY STAFF TO BE TRAINED ON THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE, AND REQUIRES THE REPORTING OF DATA ON COMPLAINTS FOR VIOLATIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE.

IT FURTHER REQUIRES A REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN FEDERAL AGENCIES REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY AND REQUESTS THE MAYORAL ADMINISTRATION TO INFORM THE CITY COUNCIL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, WHEN IT BECOMES AWARE OF AN ONGOING ACTION TO ENFORCE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS.

AND PART OF THAT LANGUAGE IS INTENDED TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS NOT MERELY LAW ENFORCEMENT COOPERATING WITH ICE.

THERE ARE MANY OTHER MORE TACIT WAYS OF COOPERATING WITH ICE.

AND THOSE ARE SITUATIONS THAT COULD COME UP HERE AS WELL.

SO I WOULD JUST ADD MY VOICE TO THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE ME HERE.

AND THAT WILL PROBABLY FOLLOW THAT.

I SUPPORT SOME CODIFIED LANGUAGE.

NOT A PROMISE, NOT A VERBAL PROMISE.

IF YOU CARE ABOUT THESE SAME THINGS AS I BELIEVE YOU DO, WE NEED TO SEE SOMETHING IN WRITING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

HELLO. CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SCOTT NISKANEN.

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I RESIDE AT 1520 LINDEN STREET WEST.

ON DECEMBER 8TH, 2025, STILLWATER HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION PASSED A RESOLUTION REGARDING HOW THE CITY DEALS WITH ICE AND HAS RECOMMENDED THE RESOLUTION TO THIS STILLWATER CITY COUNCIL.

I HAVE A COPY RIGHT HERE.

AS A PERSON WHO BELIEVES IN THE RIGHTS OF MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS, COMPASSION, THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAW, I AM STRONGLY ASKING THAT THIS COUNCIL DELIBERATE AND ADVANCE THIS RESOLUTION WITH THE PROPER URGENCY THAT WE BELIEVE THE SITUATION REQUIRES THIS.

THIS RESOLUTION WILL PROHIBIT 287 G AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF STILLWATER AND ICE PROHIBIT USING CITY RESOURCES TO SUPPORT A 287 PROGRAM.

PROTECT SENSITIVE INFORMATION LIKE BILLING RECORDS AND BUILDING PERMITS.

PROHIBIT CITY STAFF, INCLUDING POLICE, FROM PARTICIPATING IN ICE RAIDS WITHOUT A VALID JUDICIAL WARRANT.

287 G AGREEMENTS WITH ICE ARE ARGUABLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

DIVERT RESOURCES FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND ERODE PUBLIC TRUST IN OUR LOCAL POLICE.

IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT OUR CHIEF OF POLICE, BRIAN MUELLER HAS VERBALLY COMMITTED NOT TO COOPERATE WITH ICE. AS ELECTED OFFICIALS OF OUR COMMUNITY, I URGE YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND SWIFTLY PASS THIS RESOLUTION AND PROTECT OUR CITIZENS FROM INHUMANE, UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND UNLAWFUL INVOLVEMENT WITH ICE.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS KAREN HANSON. I LIVE AT ONE 109 SOUTH FOURTH STREET.

I'VE LIVED IN STILLWATER NOW SINCE 1982.

I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ANY BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE HAS, BUT FOR ME PERSONALLY, I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT ME PERSONALLY.

BUT FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE MORE THAN A PROMISE AND TO HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING.

AND I COME FROM THE POINT OF MY FATHER'S FAMILY DIED IN THE CAMPS IN WORLD WAR TWO, AND I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE ZERO RELATIVES ON ONE SIDE OF THE FAMILY, BUT I HAVE ZERO RELATIVES ON ONE SIDE OF THE FAMILY.

SO THOSE CITIZENS, LIKE MY GRANDPARENTS AND ALL THIS EXTENDED FAMILY WHO TRUSTED PEOPLE TO STAND UP FOR THEM, AND WE ALL SAY, WHERE WERE THEY? THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO STAND UP FOR PEOPLE LIKE MY FAMILY THAT DISAPPEARED.

SO I WOULD I WASN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

I WAS GOING TO TALK INSTEAD ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE CITY OF STILLWATER.

IF ICE STARTS ROAMING THE STREETS, AND HOW FEW PEOPLE WILL COME TO STILLWATER TO SEE THOSE SCARY PEOPLE AT OUR ON OUR STREETS.

BUT INSTEAD, I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK STRONGLY ABOUT DEBATING AND PASSING A RESOLUTION AND WRITING TO NOT COOPERATE WITH ICE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I GUESS ONE OF MY ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AND MAYBE ONE OF THE SPEAKERS CAN ADDRESS IT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME.

THIS IS WE. SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.

THE CITY OF STILLWATER DOESN'T ENTER INTO OR DRAFT RESOLUTIONS, OR PASS RESOLUTIONS PROMISING NOT TO AGREE TO SOME HYPOTHETICAL IN THE FUTURE.

LIKE IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING WE DO HERE. I DON'T HAVE A I DON'T HAVE A POLICY TEAM LIKE JACOB FRY AND MY BUDDY MELVIN CARTER HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THIS.

MY SENIOR POLICY ADVISOR IS MY 16 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.

MY SENIOR COMMS DIRECTOR IS MY 15 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.

LIKE, WE DON'T DO THIS KIND OF STUFF.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE DO.

SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME IN TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT LIKE I'M WITH YOU.

I THINK WHAT I'VE SEEN ON THE NEWS IS ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE AND NEEDLESSLY CRUEL, AND I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT THAT CHAOS IN STILLWATER.

I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT THAT CHAOS IN STILLWATER. WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH WITH THIS. AND AGAIN, I JUST GOT THIS RESOLUTION LAST WEEK, ADMITS HOLIDAYS AND KIDS AND MY REGULAR JOB AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS.

RIGHT. AND I'M NOT A POLICY EXPERT. I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL ADVOCATE OF ANYTHING.

I RUN AN AD AGENCY. SO AGAIN, BEAR WITH ME.

AND I DON'T HAVE STAFF THAT'S HELPING ME DRAFT POLICY AROUND IMMIGRATION.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH IN THE CITY OF STILLWATER. SO AGAIN, PLEASE GIVE ME SOME PATIENCE. THE REST OF THE COUNCIL PATIENCE WE'VE GOT PROBABLY THE MOST EQUIPPED PERSON IS I'M GOING TO CALL IT. COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS OVER HERE. HE'S A HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY TEACHER. WE'VE GOT A DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

THIS GUY DOES SOMETHING IN EXCEL SPREADSHEETS. AND LINDSAY GENERATES MONEY FOR NONPROFITS LIKE WE'RE NOT.

THIS IS NOT OUR WHEELHOUSE. RIGHT. SO JUST PLEASE BEAR WITH.

BUT THIS RESOLUTION IS NOT GOING TO STOP ICE FROM COMING TO STILLWATER.

IF THEY WANT TO COME TO STILLWATER AND TALK TO CHAOS, WELL, IT WON'T ABSOLUTELY WON'T.

LOOK AT SAINT PAUL AND MINNEAPOLIS. SO LIKE, YOU GOTTA START SOMEWHERE.

I MEAN, AGAIN, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I DON'T I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, AND I'M DOING IT GENUINELY.

I'M NOT TRYING TO AVOID ANY OF THIS STUFF.

I JUST I WORRY THAT DIFFERENT CITIES ARE DOING DIFFERENT TASKS.

NO ONE SEEMS TO AGREE ON WHAT'S BEST, AND I FRANKLY DON'T WANT TO PUT MY FOOT INTO

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I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO ANYWAY, BUT GO AHEAD. SO YES, IF SOMEONE CAN RESPOND TO HOW THIS ACTUALLY KEEPS US OUT OF STILLWATER, I WOULD LOVE IT.

MY NAME IS MICHELLE RUDNITSKY AND I LIVE AT 689 HIDDEN VALLEY COURT IN CROIX WOOD.

I GREW UP IN THAT HOUSE.

MY DAD AND MY MOM BOUGHT IT IN 1989 WHEN THEY MOVED FROM KANSAS TO GROW THEIR FAMILY HERE.

AND I HAD ACTUALLY LEFT STILLWATER AS SOON AS I COULD BECAUSE I WANTED TO JUST GET SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND I DIDN'T THINK I'D BE BACK.

BUT I AM, AND I SEE NOW HOW SHELTERED IT IS HERE, HOW IT WAS. AT LEAST I'M NOT A KID IN SCHOOL ANYMORE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S EXACTLY GOING ON, BUT I CAN SEE HOW SHELTERED MY UPBRINGING WAS AND THAT WAS WHY I FEEL LIKE I KEPT RUNNING AWAY.

AND I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CREATE CHANGE RIGHT HERE.

AND IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO PUSH IT ASIDE.

AND WE JUST CAN'T WE CAN'T PUSH IT ASIDE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER DAY LIKE THIS IS IT HAS TO HAPPEN NOW AND IT NONE OF US ARE EXPERTS, BUT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

WE'RE TRYING TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING TARGETED.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO WILL EVENTUALLY BE TARGETED.

AND IF WE PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN HISTORY, WE HAVE TO ACT NOW. WE CAN'T PUSH PEOPLE ASIDE UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO US OR UNTIL IT COMES HERE. WE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T STOP ICE FROM COMING HERE.

WHAT WE CAN DO IS PREPARE THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT POTENTIAL LOOKS LIKE, AND THAT WE CAN BEST PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR BUSINESS OWNERS. I MEAN, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD, THERE'S ALREADY BUSINESSES THAT HAVE GONE UNDER, RIGHT, IN THE TWIN CITIES BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE DISAPPEARED.

DON'T WAIT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS HERE.

PLEASE. I'M ASKING YOU TO DO SOMETHING NOW.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TOM LINDEEN.

I'VE BEEN STILLWATER FOR 50 YEARS.

I LIVE AT 620 MAIN STREET NORTH, APARTMENT 208, IN TERRACE SPRINGS. I'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY ON SOME ISSUES DEALING WITH TERROR SPRINGS.

AND I WANT TO AS A AN EXTENSION OF THAT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO TO MAKE STILLWATER A WELCOMING PLACE, A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND TO TOUR AND TO WORK, TO RAISE A FAMILY. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT ENJOY STILLWATER, THE RESIDENTS, THE BUSINESSES, THE EMPLOYEES, THE TOURISTS, ALL THE PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN, THE HEADGEAR THEY WEAR, OR THE SHAPE OF THEIR EYES.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORWARD THE TO CONTINUE THE WORK THAT THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION DID. THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB WORKING WITH OUR IMMIGRANT WORKING GROUP TO DRAFT THE RESOLUTION. MANY DRAFTS OF THE RESOLUTION.

IT'S WELL THOUGHT OUT.

AND NOW IT'S THE TIME FOR ACTION.

YOUR ACTION TO PASS THE RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

HI. MY NAME IS FERNANDO BAZAN, AND I LIVE AT 924 FOURTH STREET NORTH.

JUST UP THE ROAD, THE NORTH HILL.

WE LOVE THIS COMMUNITY. WE'VE BEEN A VERY STRONG PART OF IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS ALREADY. OUR KIDS HAVE GROWN UP HERE.

WE HAVE STRONG ROOTS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALL AFRAID OF WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

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THESE FOLKS ARE AMASSING AT THE YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOTS AROUND THE GAS STATION NEAR CIMARRON. TOMORROW, THEY COULD BE TERRORIZING PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO VALLEY OUTREACH.

THEY COULD BE PICKING UP PARENTS AND SCHOOL KIDS AFTER SCHOOL AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL OR THE HIGH SCHOOL. THEY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND CLEANING OUT THE THE CREWS.

AND SO WE ASK YOU TO DO MORE THAN JUST WISH THAT THIS NOT HAPPEN.

AND, YES, WE CANNOT CONTROL WHAT ICE DOES.

THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY DO.

THEIR INTENTION IS TO TO CREATE FEAR, TO INTIMIDATE, TO NORMALIZE PERSECUTION AND VIOLENCE.

THEY WANT TO NUMB US FROM THESE UGLY THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING COMPLETELY LAWLESS, COMPLETELY UNACCOUNTABLE, AND NOT JUST ICE, BUT A SERIES OF THREE LETTER AGENCIES THAT ARE CLUSTERED WITH THEM.

AND I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT AT THE MOMENT WE ARE ARGUING ICE TARGETING IMMIGRANTS.

AND INITIALLY THEY SAID THAT THESE WERE GOING TO BE CRIMINAL, ILLEGAL ALIENS, AND NOW IT'S JUST IMMIGRANTS THAT COULD HAVE A PARKING VIOLATION ON THEIR RECORD FROM 15 YEARS AGO.

AND OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE RACIALLY PROFILING AND PICKING UP ANYBODY THAT LOOKS NONWHITE AND DISAPPEARING THEM WITHOUT DUE PROCESS WITHOUT RECOURSE AND THE ABILITY TO EVEN CONTACT THEIR LAWYER, THEIR FAMILIES, WHATEVER THE SLIPPERY SLOPE IS, WHAT COMES NEXT. PRETTY SOON IT WILL BE PEOPLE, AND ALREADY IS PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO PROTECT THESE IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE CALLING OUT, SURROUNDING THE ICE TEAMS JOURNALISTS PEOPLE OF THE CLERGY.

NEXT, IT COULD VERY WELL BE WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION PERCEIVES AS BEING DISSIDENTS, PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH THEM, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN DEMONSTRATIONS, PERHAPS THEY COULD BE AT SOME POINT PEOPLE IN THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THESE HAVE BEEN DEMONIZED AS WELL.

EVENTUALLY, 11 MONTHS FROM NOW, THEY COULD FORM RINGS AROUND ALL OUR VOTING SITES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SCREEN PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, LEGALLY CITIZENS.

AND IN DOING SO, THEY'RE GOING TO INTIMIDATE AND DISCOURAGE VOTING.

SO IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING NOW.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP WISHING THIS AWAY AND JUST KIND OF IGNORING THE REALITY THAT WE HAVE TO TO TRY TO PREEMPTIVELY REACT INSTEAD OF TRY TO ADJUST TO THE CHAOS THAT'S GOING TO FOLLOW.

AND SO WE WOULD ASK THAT IN THE ABSENCE OF SUFFICIENT EXPERTISE IN THE COUNSEL, THAT PERHAPS THE MAYOR WOULD CONSIDER FORMING SOME SORT OF A TASK FORCE.

AND I MEAN, SOON, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN WEEKS FROM NOW OR MONTHS FROM NOW. THESE GUYS COULD BE HERE TOMORROW.

AND THE POLICE TO BE CALLED TO COME TO THE HIGH SCHOOL OR TO VALLEY OUTREACH.

AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? WE NEED TO ORGANIZE THE PLAN.

YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DOZENS OF FOLKS MASKED, UNMARKED VEHICLES AMASSING, KITTED OUT FOR WAR AS IF THIS WERE FALLUJAH AND JUST DRAGGING PEOPLE INTO CARS AND DISAPPEARING THEM.

IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. RIGHT.

OKAY. JUST 2 OR 3 MILES AWAY.

YEAH, WE ALL SEE IT. I'M SEEING THE SAME THING YOU'RE SEEING.

SO PERHAPS ONE WAY TO DO THIS IS TO FORM A TASK FORCE WHERE WE GATHER FOLKS THAT ARE EXPERT IN VARIOUS AREAS OF OF, YOU KNOW, LAW AND OTHER NECESSARY DISCIPLINES TO DEAL WITH THIS AND FIGURE OUT TOGETHER HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.

BUT WE ASK THAT YOU SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

BY PUTTING THIS IN WRITING, NOT JUST SAY, WELL, OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO REACT THE RIGHT WAY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I UNDERSTAND, I DON'T GET HUNG UP ON THAT. LIKE, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S OPPOSED TO PUTTING SOMETHING IN WRITING. IT'S JUST THE DRAFT THAT WE ALL GOT LAST WEEK. LIKE, WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO PASS THAT.

LIKE, I'VE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

I HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.

I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE.

NONE OF US ARE HOPING YOU JUST.

WE'RE NOT. I'M NOT ASKING ANYONE JUST TO TAKE OUR WORD FOR IT.

WE JUST GOT THIS LAST WEEK, LIKE SO.

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THAT'S WHAT IF I HAVEN'T MADE THAT CLEAR.

LIKE, THIS IS NOT A PROCESS WE GO THROUGH IN THE CITY OF STILLWATER.

THESE ARE NOT ISSUES WE DEAL WITH.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

I APOLOGIZE, I APOLOGIZE.

RIGHT. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THE ANSWERS AND THE PERFECT PROCESS LINED OUT FOR YOU. BUT YOU'RE ALL HERE.

YOU'RE HELPING OUT YOUR COMMUNITY GATHERINGS, LIKE THE FIREWORKS ON THE 4TH OF JULY.

THERE MUST BE SOME KIND OF GUIDELINES TO RUN.

AN EVENT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS ON WHAT GOES ON DURING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

WHAT'S THAT PROCESS? AND AGAIN, THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A DEBATE, SO WE'LL SHUT IT DOWN.

BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPRESS SOME OF LIKE I'M ASKING IF YOU CAN'T TELL.

I'M ASKING FOR YOUR HELP, NOT FOR A DEBATE.

AND COUNCIL. WELL, YOU COULD FORMALLY YOU COULD FORMALLY CALL FOR FORMING A TASK FORCE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY. AND AGAIN, I LIKE THIS IDEA BECAUSE I JUST I NEED PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERTS IN THIS SORT OF LAW AND ADVOCACY TO REACH OUT TO ME.

I'VE REACHED OUT, I'VE REACHED OUT TO A FEW DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, DIDN'T GET MUCH OF SUBSTANCE BACK.

I REACHED OUT TO AMY KLOBUCHAR AND TINA SMITH'S OFFICE, BETTY MCCOLLUM'S OFFICE.

I'VE GOT THE METRO AREA ASSOCIATION OF MAYORS.

I THINK I WANT TO GET THEM IN A ROOM TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS THIS.

AT THE AT THE METRO LEVEL, THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO, BUT I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS FOR THIS, AND I'M JUST LIKE, I'VE HAD LIKE THREE HOURS TO REVIEW THIS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST WEEK. SO AGAIN, APOLOGIES.

WE DON'T GO THROUGH THESE PROCESSES. WE DON'T JUST ARBITRARILY PASS RESOLUTIONS LIKE THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE STAFF THAT TEES THESE THINGS UP FOR US BECAUSE IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT OUR STAFF DOES. SO JUST BEAR WITH US.

I DON'T KNOW. LET'S FIGURE IT OUT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS A COUNCIL MEETING. THIS ISN'T A WORKSHOP. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT HAVING TO COME BACK HERE.

YEAH, WEEKS OR MONTHS FROM NOW.

ALREADY HAVING THE COMMUNITY TERRORIZED AND PEOPLE DRAGGED AWAY AND AND STILL SUFFERING.

ECONOMIC. ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE'RE.

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.

I JUST I. THE CHALLENGE IS IF THEY COME.

THE PRACTICAL REALITY IS WE CAN PASS 500 OF THESE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A SINGLE EFFECT ON WHAT THEY DO.

RIGHT. BUT IT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY.

BUT BUT HE. WE ARE ON THE RECORD.

I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AS SOON AS THEY SHOW UP, WE GET THERE. THAT'S OUR PLAN.

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING? ARE YOU RAPPING? THAT'S GREAT. JUST SAY SOMETHING.

YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR NEIGHBORS. JUST GO TO WORK. YOU HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

PUT EYES ON THEM. PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY.

I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GREAT THINGS. I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT THINGS FOR YOU ALL TO DO.

FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN, WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, THE ONE THING THAT DISSUADES THESE PEOPLE IS, IS EXPOSURE LIGHT. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY GATHERING AND PUSHING BACK AGAINST THEM.

YEAH. DO ALL THAT. YES.

THEY'RE THEY WILL NOT HAVE ANY WARRANTS.

THAT'S THE MOST IN EVERY MINUTE OF ANYONE.

HERE'S A VICE SHOWING UP.

CALL ME. MY CELL PHONE'S ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

I AM, I'LL SHOW UP AND GET IN FRONT OF THEM.

PUT DAYLIGHT ON THEM. WHAT WILL YOU TELL OUR POLICE TO DO? WHAT WILL YOU TELL THE CITY? MEMBERS. YEAH. AGAIN? NOT.

IT'S NOT A DEBATE TODAY, BUT GO AHEAD, SIR.

WELL, SO I THINK THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED IS A PRETTY GOOD ONE.

YOU KNOW, IN LIEU OF A RESOLUTION.

RIGHT. WHAT DIRECTION HAVE YOU GIVEN TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT ABOUT HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO RESPOND? IF THEY SEE ICE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY'RE ARRESTING PEOPLE WITHOUT A WARRANT, THEY'RE TRESPASSING.

THEY'RE CONCEALING THEIR IDENTITY.

THEY'RE INTIMIDATING THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT'S THE CURRENT WHAT'S THE CURRENT GUIDELINE ON THAT? I MEAN, I'LL LET THE CHIEF SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS, BUT MORE OR LESS, WE CAN'T DO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

RIGHT. AND OUR JOB IS TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.

WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT PARTICIPATING IN ICE ENFORCEMENT.

WE'RE NOT PARTICIPATING IN ANY OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU MENTIONED AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW UP IF WE NEED TO SHOW UP TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY SAFE.

SO I GUESS THE CHIEF GET INTO WHAT OUT OF THAT RESOLUTION WAS YEAH.

YEAH. WHAT WAS THE LIKE? THIS IS A BARRIER THAT.

NO, FOR ME, HONESTLY, FOR ME, IT WAS THIS WHOLE NOTION OF THE THE 287 G THING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MEET ANY DEFINITION OF A CITY OF OUR SIZE WOULD EVEN BE ELIGIBLE TO ENTER INTO.

SO MY FIRST THOUGHT IS, WHY WOULD WE PASS A RESOLUTION ON SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN? FRANKLY, IT'S A STATEMENT FOR FOR ONE LIKE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND ME, RAISE YOUR HAND ON HIS AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SEE YOU. YOU KNOW, PASS THIS RESOLUTION RIGHT NOW.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. WE'VE GOT A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO. BUT MY FIRST THING, AGAIN, WITHOUT TALKING TO ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT THESE, I LOOKED AT THE CRITERIA AND THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF 287 AGREEMENTS THAT THEY

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SO I WAS JUST LIKE, WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? LIKE, IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. IT'S LIKE IF THE MET COUNCIL SAID SO, SO, SO JUST SO THAT'S THAT WAS MY AGAIN, THAT WAS MY THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED. CERTAINLY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN OPINION STATEMENT THAT IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN. WELL, THERE'S NOT A CITY I CAN FIND LIKE OURS THAT HAS ENTERED INTO ONE OF THESE.

YEAH, BUT THAT, AGAIN, DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

AND THAT'S WHY THE RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE SLIGHTLY PROBABLE THAT I'M NOT GOING TO WRITE RESOLUTIONS AND PASS THINGS FOR SURE.

BUT IF YOUR COMMUNITY IS DEMANDING THAT, RIGHT, AS, AS OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE, RIGHT, YOU ARE THERE TO DO A JOB THAT WE SENT YOU TO. WE HIRED YOU TO DO THIS JOB.

AND IF YOU DON'T DO IT, WE'LL FIRE YOU AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE.

AND THAT'S THAT'S. WELL, THAT'S.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE GOT AN ANSWER TO 20,000 PEOPLE IN THE TOWN.

I'M HEARING WHEN 20,000 PEOPLE SHOW UP AND SAY, DON'T SIGN THE RESOLUTION, THEN YOUR ARGUMENT, I THINK, CARRIES WATER, BUT RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T I DON'T I DON'T SEE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORT ICE AND WE WANT THEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU GOT A ROOM FULL OF YOUR COMMUNITY THAT'S SAYING WE WANT ACTION.

ALL RIGHT. WE DON'T JUST WANT PROMISES.

SO. SO WHAT KIND? WHAT CAN YOU COMMIT TO TELLING YOU? I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO.

WELL, WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER.

CORRECT? RIGHT. AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE IT CAME FROM, WHY IT STARTED. LIKE WE SET UP, WE WE SET UP GUIDELINES FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION TO. HERE'S WHERE.

SO. SO YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION? I WAS NOT. OKAY. YOU SAID YOU SET UP.

THE COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL DID.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE AWARE OF ITS EXISTENCE? IT DIDN'T JUST COME OUT OF A VACUUM.

CORRECT. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM LIKE THIS JUST CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. I'M THE CURRENT COUNCIL REP. HE'S THE FORMER COUNCIL REP.

I SPENT A TON OF TIME THIS YEAR WITH THE COUNCIL, WORKING WITH THEM DIRECTLY TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A WORK PLAN OF THE STUFF THEY WANTED TO DO, TOOK EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAD POURED IT INTO ONE THING, CAME UP WITH SOMETHING TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO SUPPORT THAT GROUP.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

MIKE HAS BEEN WITH THEM FOR OVER 20 YEARS, HAS DONE ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF TRAINING ON DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. AMONG OUTREACH.

HE'S RUN THE MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY PROGRAM FOR YEARS, INCLUDING THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

I'M HOPING AGAIN THIS YEAR.

NO, IT'S NOT A SURPRISE.

ARE ARE ARE ARE IMPORTANT TO US.

SO SO WHETHER OR NOT THE RESOLUTION APPLIES TODAY.

RIGHT. WE WE WANT. WE THE COMMUNITY, WE THE PEOPLE WANT THAT STATEMENT TO BE MADE RIGHT? RIGHT. WE ALL UNDERSTAND VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS.

I UNDERSTAND HONESTLY, THIS THIS STATEMENT, IT DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH, RIGHT? IT JUST SAYS WE'RE NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE.

BUT BACK TO YOU, SIR. IF IF YOUR OFFICERS ARE SEEING, ICE AGENTS VIOLATE PEOPLE'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

AND I HAVE A LITTLE BOOK HERE OF MINNESOTA AND US CONSTITUTION, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE RIGHTS ARE, RIGHT.

IF YOU IF YOU GUYS SEE SOMEONE WHO'S DOING THAT UNDER THE GUISE OF, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL SUPREMACY CLAUSE, BUT THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO VIOLATING THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO? SIR, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME. VERY AWARE OF THE US CONSTITUTION.

YEAH. OUR OFFICERS ARE NOT INVOLVED IN US IMMIGRATION.

WE DON'T ASK IMMIGRATION STATUS.

WE SERVE ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF ICE COMES HERE, WE WILL NOT WE WILL NOT STOP THEM FROM DOING LAW ENFORCEMENT, FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WORK. THAT'S A CRIME, ACTUALLY.

AND SO OUR OFFICERS, WE WILL BE THERE TO KEEP THE PEACE IF WE NEED TO BE.

IF THERE'S CONFLICT BETWEEN CITIZENS AND FEDERAL AGENTS, WE'LL BE THERE TO KEEP THE PEACE. SO THAT DOESN'T REALLY ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT IF YOU SEE THEM VIOLATING THE LAW BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIMITS ON WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO CONSTITUTIONALLY. RIGHT. OF COURSE, IF THEY SEE YOUR OFFICERS, SIR, IF WE SEE INDIVIDUALS VIOLATING THE LAW, WE TAKE ACTION.

OKAY. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY INSTANCES OF THAT OF FEDERAL AGENTS.

IF WE SOME OF THIS HAS BEEN UPHELD BY THE US SUPREME COURT, IF WE GET INVOLVED AND STOP THEM FROM DOING FEDERAL IMMIGRATION WORK, THAT'S A CRIME. SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT LET'S BRING THIS BACK TO OPEN FORUM. THIS ISN'T A Q&A SESSION OR WORKSHOP.

SO WE GOTTA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, BUT THANK YOU.

SO SO WHAT ELSE IS NEEDED FROM YOU IN ORDER TO ADVANCE THIS? LIKE WHAT? WHAT'S THE MAJOR ROADBLOCK? IS IT THAT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO A CITY THE SIZE OF.

I DON'T KNOW IF I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU IN THE ROOM IS KIND OF THE MAIN ONE.

AND THEN ALSO A PROCESS FOR TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW TO ROLL THIS OUT AND IF IT MAKES SENSE, IF IT'S LEGAL, IF IT'S ENFORCEABLE, AND IF IT ACTUALLY DOES KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANY OF IT, WHY SHOULD WE TRUST YOU LIKE WE WANT? WE WANT MORE, WE NEED I GET, I GET I HEAR YOU THAT YOU WANT MORE.

AND I'M SORRY THAT I CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU. SO THANK YOU.

[00:55:15]

AND IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN LONG HOURS AND LONG DAYS.

AND IT'S HARD TO BE ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SOUL HERE TONIGHT WHO WHO DOESN'T WANT THE BEST FOR ALL.

AND MANY OF US ARE WILLING TO DO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS, TO SUPPORT OUR NEIGHBORS, AND TO STOP WRONG FROM BEING DONE.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT PEOPLE AND CULTURES TOWNS FACE, A MOMENTS LIKE THIS IS, WHO DO WE WANT TO BE IN THIS PERIOD OF TRANSFORMATION? BECAUSE IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

IT IS A PERIOD OF TRANSFORMATION.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO TO KNOW? WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT POSITION TO TAKE? TO NOT MAKE ANY CHOICE IS TO MAKE A CHOICE.

TO NOT DO ANYTHING IS TO DO THE THING WE NEVER WANTED TO DO WITHOUT AN AWARENESS OF WHAT YOUR RIGHTS ARE, WHAT OUR RIGHTS ARE AS A CITY, WHAT OUR BUSINESS BUSINESSES RIGHTS ARE.

WE'RE ALL IN A VACUUM, AND PEOPLE ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE SCARED AND WORRIED FOR OTHERS.

AND WE DO NOT HAVE A FRAMEWORK YET ESTABLISHED FOR THIS TOWN.

AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT.

AND THOUGH YOU HAVE FULL DAYS AND BUSY NIGHTS, THERE IS ANOTHER PIECE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO IT.

YOU ALL NEED TO BE EDUCATED AS TO WHAT OUR RIGHTS ARE AS A CITY.

THIS IS THESE ARE UNCHARTERED WATERS FOR US VERY CLEARLY, AND IT'D BE GREAT IF THEY ALL DISAPPEARED IN THREE MONTHS, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO.

SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO HELP EDUCATE YOURSELVES? I KNOW YOU'VE REACHED OUT TO MANY GROUPS ALREADY.

THERE ARE GROUPS LIKE MONARCH AND UNIDAS WHO CAN HELP.

PLEASE EMAIL ME THOSE THINGS.

YES, BE HAPPY TO ALL OF US.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD OFFER THAT SAME INFORMATION TO THE CHAMBER BECAUSE THEY NEED TO KNOW, OF COURSE, THEIR BUSINESSES WHO CAN WALK IN THEIR DOORS AND WHO CANNOT, AND WHAT RIGHTS DO THEY HAVE TO SAY, SHOW ME THAT PAPER, AND TO KNOW WHICH PAPER THEY'RE LOOKING AT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR PEOPLE IN THERE.

SEVERAL OF US HAVE ALREADY BEEN AFFECTED BY THE PEOPLE WE KNOW WHO ARE NO LONGER HERE.

IT'S TERRIFYING TO BE TAKING SOMEONE SOMEWHERE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE STOPPED AND THAT PERSON IS PULLED OUT OF YOUR CAR AND YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS TO STOP THEM.

IT'S TERRIFYING TO KNOW THAT THE PERSON THAT SHOWED UP AT YOUR HOUSE LAST WEEK IS NOW IN A DETENTION CENTER IN OKLAHOMA.

IT'S HEARTBREAKING. AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE HEARING TONIGHT, WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT, IS WE'RE ALL HERE TO SAY WE WANT TO SUPPORT PROTECTING OUR CITY. WE WANT TO SUPPORT PROTECTING OUR PEOPLE.

IT IS INCUMBENT UPON YOU TO GET THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO BETTER RESPOND TO US AS CONSTITUENTS AND HELP US SUPPORT YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI.

I DIDN'T PLAN ON SPEAKING TONIGHT.

I'VE BEEN A STILLWATER RESIDENT FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.

YOU WERE ASKING FOR MAYBE SOME IDEAS, I GUESS, TO HELP, SINCE THIS IS REALLY NEW FOR ALL OF US.

I LOVE THIS CITY. RAISED THREE KIDS HERE.

THERE WOULD BE A. I MEAN, YOU SAID, YOU KNOW,

[01:00:01]

I MEAN, EDINA, 50,000 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BLOOMINGTON, CHANHASSEN, WHITE BEAR.

RIGHT? SORRY.

SORRY. LIKE, I DIDN'T PLAN ON TALKING.

SO, LIKE A RESOLUTION STATEMENT OF NON-COOPERATION.

WE COULD USE A TEMPLATE FROM ANOTHER CITY.

I THINK IT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL.

I'M SORRY THAT AMY, TINA, BETTY HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK TO YOU, WHICH IS REALLY FRUSTRATING.

NO RETURN CALL WHATSOEVER.

IT'S BEEN. I MEAN, YEAH, I'VE GOT MEETINGS SCHEDULED WITH ALL OF THEM.

OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. WE CAN WE CAN ASSIST AS STILLWATER RESIDENTS.

I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT THEM ALL OF A SUDDEN, BAM! THEY'RE HERE. I MEAN, HONESTLY, THE FED GOV IS WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE THIS, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUT UNTIL THEN WE CAN'T PLAN YOU KNOW, YOU YOU SEE WHAT A SHOW THAT'S GOING ON I DON'T WANT TO USE ANY EXPLETIVES.

SO A RESOLUTION STATEMENT OF NON-COOPERATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO IN THE INTERIM, AND THAT WOULD REALLY HELP US WITH FEELING MUCH BETTER, HAVING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT ANY OF OUR BUSINESSES TO GO UNDER.

YOU KNOW, I LOVE THIS CITY.

I MOVED HERE ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO.

I'VE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN ANYWHERE I'VE EVER LIVED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

MY NAME IS JOE SAMUELSON.

I LIVE AT 1019 SECOND STREET NORTH.

I ONLY KNOW TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEHIND THE DESKS THERE.

AND WHAT I'VE LISTENED TO IS IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE FRIGHTENED. MY FATHER WAS 20 YEARS OLD WHEN HE HIT NORMANDY BEACH.

HE WAS 21 WHEN HE HELPED LIBERATE DACHAU.

AND HE WOULD BE APPALLED AT WATCHING PEOPLE WITH MASKS ARREST PEOPLE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CITY COUNCIL CAN DO.

BUT AT SOME POINT, SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. YEAH.

THAT'S RIGHT.

INCIDENTALLY, I WAS MR. SAM'S WORST ART STUDENT IN HIGH SCHOOL EVER.

HI, MY NAME IS NICK GORSKI.

I LIVE AT 419 GREELY STREET NORTH.

FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR DOWNTOWN BECAUSE MY GRANDKIDS ARE SHOWING UP IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, AND WE NEED A PLACE TO GO.

GO. OOH. AND AT I CAN'T REALLY ADD MUCH TO WHAT'S BEEN SAID, EXCEPT I AM THE SON OF A BRONZE STAR VETERAN OF WORLD WAR TWO.

AND IT WOULD KILL MY DAD TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON NOW, AND I THINK SOMEONE'S GOT TO SAY IT.

THE CITY COUNCIL GETS TO DEAL WITH DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

IT'S NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT.

NOW, GRANTED, MR. ALBRECHT HAS GOT A TOTALLY GREAT POINT.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO STOP HIM? REALLY? RIGHT.

PAPER. HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

BUT IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF BOUNDARY ESTABLISHED, ONE OF THE MANY WAYS, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT CAN MANAGE ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES YOU TALK WITH ALL THE TIME ABOUT THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER THING PEOPLE START CALLING UP TO TRY TO FIND THE SOFT SPOTS.

SOMEONE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SOMEBODY ON THE CITY COUNCIL, SOMEBODY ON THE DPW TO BASICALLY TURN THEM.

AND YOU GOT TO HAND IT TO STEPHEN MILLER.

HE'S THE KIND WHO BROUGHT THAT INTO, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE THE GOVERNMENT FULL FORCE.

SO I THINK HAVING A DEFINED TERM AT LEAST GETS YOU OFF THE HOOK, BECAUSE WHOEVER IS LIKE WORKING A DESK SOMEPLACE IS GOING TO THINK TWICE ABOUT CALLING INITIALLY. THEY MAY CALL ANYHOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'LL GIVE YOU BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, BOOM! THEY ALL AGREED THAT THIS WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE BEST OF LUCK. THANK YOU SIR.

[01:05:02]

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE OPEN FORUM AND MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS. ONE BEFORE WE GET ON TO STAFF REPORTS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP. I'M VERY PROUD TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS SO MANY PASSIONATE PEOPLE TRYING TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS.

I DO KNOW IT FELT STRANGELY ADVERSARIAL WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT.

NOT WITH YOU ALL, BUT WITH SOME OF YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHY.

I JUST HONESTLY LIKE, AGAIN, WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS UP HERE.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

THIS IS ENTIRELY NEW TO US.

WE DEAL WITH WATER COMING OUT OF THE FAUCET STREETS, CHRISTMAS TREES. THIS IS LIKE IMMIGRATION POLICY IN DEALING WITH A TYRANT.

AND THAT'S USING CUSTOMS AND IMMIGRATION TO SOW CHAOS AND TERRORIZE PEOPLE.

WAS NOT ON MY BINGO CARD WHEN I RAN FOR MAYOR.

RIGHT? SO. AND SO WITH THAT, JUST PLEASE.

RIGHT, I KNOW. RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS COMPLETELY UNCHARTED TERRITORY. I TALKED TO OTHER MAYORS AROUND THE METRO.

THEY ARE EQUALLY AS FRUSTRATED AS I AM.

THEY SEE ALL THE SAME THINGS WE ALL SEE, AND FRANKLY, VERY FEW HAVE HAD NONE THUS FAR, HAVE HAD A PLAN THAT'S ACTUALLY DONE ANYTHING TO STOP THE CHAOS AND THE TERRORISM.

SO TRUST THAT I AM TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

I AM TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE.

I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE.

THERE'S THERE'S NO ONE OPPOSED TO KEEPING CHAOS IN THIS CRAP OUT OF STILLWATER.

NONE OF US WANT THAT HERE.

WE ALL SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE METRO, AND IT SCARES THE CRAP OUT OF ME THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD HAPPEN IN MY BACKYARD, RIGHT? LIKE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN.

SO WE WE ALL SEE IT. WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I WANT TO TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED BETTY, AMY, TINA WALZ. LIKE, WE NEED EVERY MAYOR IN THE METRO TOGETHER SINGING THE SAME SONG BECAUSE NO ONE'S LISTENING TO THEM.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DID TALK TO GOVERNOR WALZ, AND HE WAS LIKE, THE PROBLEM WITH THE CHAOS IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS THAT ICE ISN'T TALKING TO US. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, CITIES ARE SAYING, DON'T TALK TO ICE. SO THEY AGREE THAT THERE'S THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE.

RIGHT. JUST SAYING YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WORK WITH ICE DOESN'T SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

LIKE THERE'S A COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN. THERE'S THERE'S SO MANY NUANCES TO THIS THAT ARE COMPLETELY NEW TO ME THAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

AND AGAIN, WHAT THREW ME WITH THE 286 OR 287 WAS THAT I'M CHECKING ALL THE BOXES FOR LIKE, WHERE ARE THEY APPLY AND WHAT THEY DO. THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT TYPES. NONE OF THEM APPLY TO STILLWATER. AND SO THAT JUST KIND OF THREW ME THROUGH A LOOP THINKING, WHY WOULD ANYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY THINK WE'D EVER DO THIS? BECAUSE WE DON'T MEET ANY OF THE CRITERIA TO DO THAT. THERE'S NOT ANOTHER CITY.

AGAIN AND AGAIN, I'M WITH YOU ON THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T EVER WANT TO ENTER INTO THAT.

I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT I NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS OF WHAT THESE THINGS WERE, AND THAT'S WHAT JUST KIND OF LIKE, OH, LIKE AGAIN, IT WAS ALL NEW TO ME.

I NEVER HEARD OF THAT UNTIL TUESDAY OF LAST WEEK. SO AGAIN, JUST PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.

BEAR WITH THE COUNCIL. WE DO NOT HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, MAYOR FRYE AND CARTER HAVE MORE STAFF AROUND POLICY THAN WE HAVE TOTAL STAFF IN THE CITY OF STILLWATER TO HELP THEM DRAFT THESE THINGS AND TO VET THESE THINGS AND DO THESE THINGS, WE DON'T WE NEED TO DO THIS.

WE NEED TO RELY ON YOU GUYS.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF, YOU YOU KNOW, LIKE ACTUAL POLICY ADVOCATES, POLICY WRITERS IN THIS SPACE THAT CAN HELP ME AND HELP OUR CITY.

PLEASE HAVE THEM EMAIL ME.

I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS.

SO PLEASE. SO WITH THAT.

SO THANK THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

AGAIN, I'M VERY PROUD TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND PROUD TO HAVE YOU ALL AS NEIGHBORS. AND WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE AS BEST WE CAN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU ALL.

THANKS, GUYS. COME BACK NEXT WEEK.

I DON'T THINK I THINK OUR NEXT. CHECK OUT THE MEETING CALENDAR, BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME.

I'M TELLING YOU, WE GOT A LOT.

I COME BACK TO SAY ONE MORE THING.

I COME BACK TO SAY ONE MORE THING.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING ON THIS SITUATION.

AND I YOU KNOW, I'M NOT UPSET.

YES, I'M UPSET ABOUT THE SITUATION, BUT I'M NOT UPSET ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING YOU CAN ABOVE AND BEYOND.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT AFFECTS YOU GUYS WAY MORE THAN ANYTHING BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S BOMBARDING

[01:10:06]

HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW? AND THEY'RE NOT LISTENING TO YOU.

BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS SITUATION.

AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IS CUB WHEN WE'RE USING THE GREASE PENS.

ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME? ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME? ODEBRECHT? YEP.

OKAY. JUST ABOUT DONE HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE HIM A HARD TIME WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE GREASE PENS AT CUB.

IT WASN'T CUB AT THE BEGINNING.

IT WAS CONSUMERS UNITED FOR BUYING FOR A LONG TIME.

BUT I LOVE THE GREASE PENS.

OKAY. COREY. OKAY.

[3. Assistant City Administrator]

MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE DO HAVE SOME CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS STILL ONGOING. THE UTILITY EXTENSION PROJECT.

THEY'VE JUST COMPLETED THE BORING UNDERNEATH HIGHWAY 36.

AND THEY PUT THE CARRIER PIPE IN.

SO PROBABLY BY THE END OF THE MONTH, THAT WHOLE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED.

AND I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT SEVEN YEARS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THAT PROJECT, AND WE FINALLY GOT IT DONE. WOW.

SO ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, THE VETS MEMORIAL LOT.

WE'RE JUST DOING A SMALL DRAINAGE PROJECT, AND THERE ARE BORING SOME PIPE TODAY.

TO GET DRAINAGE FROM ONE END OF THE PARKING LOT TO THE OTHER.

SO THINGS ARE WRAPPING UP FOR 2025 FOR, FOR THE CITY.

ONE GOOD NOTE TO OUR SECOND PFAS TREATMENT PLANT.

THE PLANS ARE 95% DONE.

WE PLAN ON BIDDING THAT PROJECT IN JANUARY, OPENING BIDS IN FEBRUARY, AND HOPEFULLY CONSTRUCTION WOULD START IN AUGUST OF 2026.

SO RAPIDLY MOVING PROJECT.

SECOND ONE SHOULD BE DONE BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.

SO AWESOME. VERY COOL.

GOING ANYWHERE FOR CHRISTMAS? I AM STAYING IN MINNESOTA.

STAYING IN MINNESOTA. ALL RIGHT.

RIGHT. WHY DON'T YOU TELL EM ABOUT OUR OUR POSSIBLE MEETING COMING UP HERE.

JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY FROM THE WILD RIVER CONSERVANCY.

THEY ARE WORKING. THEY ARE PARTNERS WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, AND THEY ARE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN USING OUR OCCUPYING OUR LUMBERJACK LANDING HOUSE FOR PROGRAMS AND INFORMATION CENTER FOR FOR THE UPCOMING YEARS.

SO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT MEETING TO HAPPEN, HOPEFULLY SOMETIME IN JANUARY.

VERY COOL. I LIKE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON, PLEASE.

[4. Police Chief]

MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL I WILL JUST ADDRESS THIS REALLY QUICKLY AND JUST REITERATE THAT, YOU KNOW, STILLWATER POLICE OFFICERS DO NOT ASK IMMIGRATION STATUS. WE DO NOT ENFORCE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS.

WE WORK WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES, MANY FEDERAL AGENCIES, AND THE PURSUIT OF CRIMINALS THAT ARE HURTING INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS IT.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY IS THAT THERE'S IF THERE IS ANY INDIVIDUAL, ANY GROUP FAMILY ORGANIZATION ANYONE WHO HAVE CITIZENS YOU KNOW, THAT ARE FEARFUL. MEANING STILLWATER RESIDENTS THAT ARE FEARFUL.

AND WE CAN HAVE AN INTERACTION WITH THEM, HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE, SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THEM AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUT THEIR MINDS AT EASE A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF OUR INTERACTION. NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO.

NO ORDINANCE IS GOING TO STOP OR RESOLUTION IS GOING TO STOP ICE FROM COMING HERE.

BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MYSELF AND MY OFFICERS TO SIT DOWN AND AND TRY TO PUT SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS AT EASE IF WE CAN.

SO MY BIGGEST FEAR IS THAT I WANT SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO CALL 911 WHEN THEY'RE A VICTIM OF A CRIME, VICTIM OF A DOMESTIC, AND NOT BE FEARFUL THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK IMMIGRATION STATUS OR ENGAGE IN ANY OF THAT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

IT'S NOT OUR OUR IT'S NOT OUR OUR MISSION.

AND OUR OFFICERS CANNOT, TO BE CLEAR, CANNOT INTERVENE ON A FEDERAL

[01:15:05]

I JUST CLARIFIED WITH ONE RESIDENT.

WHAT OUR SUPPORT IS AND OUR SUPPORT IS IF INDIVIDUALS SHOW UP AS PROTESTING FEDERAL AND A FEDERAL OPERATION, WE WILL BE THERE TO KEEP THE PEACE.

AND THAT IS SIMPLY IT.

NOW, THAT COULD BE VIEWED IN A RESOLUTION AS SUPPORTING AN ICE OPERATION, BUT WE WERE THERE TO KEEP THE PEACE, TO TRY TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO JUST SIMPLY BE SAFE.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE ON.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.

LAST WEEK, OUR HOMELESS SHELTER IN STILLWATER, JUST OUTSIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT CENTER, WAS OPEN DURING THE YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S FULLY OPERATIONAL YET, BUT IT'S OPEN DURING THE COLD WEATHER THAT WE HAD THAT LITTLE STRETCH OF 4 OR 5 DAYS.

SO PRETTY COOL TO HAVE RIGHT IN OUR BACKYARD.

THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE SOMEONE THAT'S EXPERIENCING ABLE TO USE THAT JUST THIS LAST COLD STRETCH, WE WERE USING IT. YEP. THEY OPENED IT UP AND THEY STAFFED IT FOR INDIVIDUALS DURING THAT COLD STRETCH TO BE TO, YOU KNOW, FOR ANYONE WHO'S, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCING ANY KIND OF SHELTER, INSECURITY OR WHATEVER FOR THAT TIME PERIOD.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO THE COUNTY STAFF ALSO HAD A VOUCHERS FOR INDIVIDUALS TO GO TO THE HOTEL. SO IT WAS PRETTY COOL THAT THAT'S JUST RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD. I KNOW WE HAVE THE HOTELS, BUT THIS NEW KIND OF OPERATION THAT'S THERE WAS PRETTY AWESOME.

AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, I KNOW WE SAW MR. MAYOR, WE SAW YOU AT TARGET THIS WEEK AND I TALKED ABOUT IT LAST TIME.

BUT JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE OUR SHOP WITH A COP EVENT.

AND THE REASON I WANT TO REITERATE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, SERGEANT PAPKE LED THAT THERE'S A TON OF PEOPLE INVOLVED. AND AGAIN, WE WERE AT TARGET. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY TO NAME SOME OF THE PEOPLE. WE PUT A SHOUT OUT ON FACEBOOK TO THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE BUSINESSES THAT REALLY SUPPORTED US.

AND IF I TRY TO NAME THEM ALL NOW, I'LL FORGET SOMEONE. SO I'M NOT GOING TO, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN OUT THERE. WE'RE SUPER, SUPER GRATEFUL.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, AS A NOTICE, I SAID THIS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE WE DROVE AN INDIVIDUAL HOME, YOU KNOW, TO A HOMELESS SHELTER IN MINNEAPOLIS. THAT'S PART OF OUR SCHOOLS HERE. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE TRULY PEOPLE THAT NEED.

AND WHAT A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR SRO, LAURA MCBROOM, WHO'S WORKING DIRECTLY WITH SOCIAL WORKERS AT THE SCHOOL TO IDENTIFY THESE FAMILIES IN NEED. AND SO IT WAS JUST AN ABSOLUTELY GREAT EVENT.

AND THIS AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THIS ISN'T BRIAN SAYING GO DO THIS AT ALL.

THIS IS DRIVEN ORGANICALLY FROM OUR STAFF THAT SAY, HEY CHIEF, CAN I DO THIS? AND LITERALLY BEFORE I CAME IN HERE, SERGEANT IN MY OFFICE SAYING, HEY, I HAVE ANOTHER IDEA, SOMETHING THAT JUST LITERALLY POPPED IN HIS HEAD AND HE'S ASKING ME PERMISSION.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK ME FOR PERMISSION, YOU KNOW? SO WE HAVE AWESOME OFFICERS THAT REALLY CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY THAT ARE DOING THIS STUFF ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, DIRECTLY AFFECTING AND IMPACTING THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE HERE. HEY, CHIEF.

REAL QUICK. SO THAT WAS I WAS I FELT SO LUCKY TO HAVE BEEN AT TARGET TRYING TO REPLACE A PHONE FOR ONE OF MY KIDS AND TO HAVE WITNESSED THAT.

BUT YOU KIND OF EXPLAINED TO ME, LIKE THE COOLEST THING I'VE BEEN TELLING THE STORY TO, TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY WAS YOU'RE WITH THESE KIDS AND THE THE UNDERSTANDING WITH THE KIDS IS THEY'RE SHOPPING FOR THEIR FAMILY, AND THEN THE OFFICERS ARE WITH THE KIDS AND THEY KIND OF GET OUT OF THEM.

LIKE, IF YOU WERE BUYING YOURSELF SOMETHING, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT.

AND THEN THEY'RE TEXTING CSO JUNCKER SAYING HEY THIS KID WANTS THIS.

AND SO JUNCKER IS RUNNING AROUND LIKE A CRAZY PERSON GETTING ALL THESE THINGS AND THEN WRAPPING THEM LIKE RIGHT. YOU CAN EXPLAIN LIKE WHAT WAS I MEAN THAT WAS SO COOL. LIKE THIS WHOLE LIKE YEAH SECRET TOTAL DOUBLE SECRET 007 SANTA.

AND THEN LIKE, RAPPING NINJAS BACK IN THE BACK ROOM OF TARGET, LIKE, SO THESE KIDS ARE IN NEED, RIGHT? AND THEY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE MEANS THEY DON'T OFTEN GET GIFTS THEMSELVES, MUCH LESS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY GIFTS FOR THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. SO THAT TO ME IS THE BIGGEST THING. SO THEY'RE WALKING AROUND AND THESE CHILDREN ARE JUST PROUDER THAN HECK TO BE PICKING OUT GIFTS.

I MEAN, I WAS WITH ONE KID AND WE WERE PICKING OUT PERFUME FOR HIS MOM.

YOU KNOW ONE INDIVIDUAL, WE SAID, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT? AND HE AND WE SAID, OH, LET'S GO LOOK AT WHAT WOULD YOU WANT IF WE WERE GOING TO TELL SANTA. AND HE TOOK US TO THE CLOTHES SECTION.

HE DIDN'T TAKE US TO THE TOYS, THE SQUIRT GUNS, THE LEGOS OR THE VIDEO GAMES.

THIS YOUNG INDIVIDUAL NEEDED CLOTHES.

AND SO IF THAT I JUST KIND OF WANT TO, YOU KNOW, LET THAT SINK IN FOR A SECOND.

AND WE WENT OVER THERE AND THIS INDIVIDUAL WORE THOSE CLOTHES THE NEXT DAY TO SCHOOL.

AND ESSER MCBROOM SAW.

AND IT WASN'T THE SAME CLOTHES THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN WEARING.

AND SO, YEAH, THEY WALK AROUND AND THEY THINK THEY'RE PICKING OUT AND THEN THEY GET HOME.

AND SOME OF OUR OFFICERS GOT TEXTS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PARENTS SAYING, OH MY, YOU KNOW, MY KID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FROM MY, MY SON OR MY DAUGHTER.

AND THEY'RE SUPER SURPRISED. AND HOW DID YOU DO THIS? AND SO WE GET BACK AND WE'RE HAVING PIZZA, AND THE KIDS ARE WRAPPING THE PRESENTS FOR THEIR PARENTS AND THEIR SIBLINGS. AND THEN OVER ON THE SIDE, JUNKER AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE. AND I EVEN DID A COUPLE OF WRAPS AND WRAPPING ALL THE OTHER PRESENTS AND THEN, LIKE, SNEAK THEM IN THE BAG. THEY HAVE THIS BIG BAG AND A SHOPPING CART AS THEY'RE GOING OUT TO MEET THEIR PARENTS, AND THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT THE GIFTS, A COUPLE OF GIFTS FOR THEM IS IN THERE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL DONE BY DONORS FROM OUR COMMUNITY, FROM ALL AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAT GAVE MONEY, TIME, FOOD, ETC. TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.

[01:20:01]

SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP. WELL IT WAS IT WAS JUST REALLY COOL.

THANK YOU CHIEF. GREAT UPDATE.

ALL RIGHT FINANCE HOW ARE WE DOING.

[5. Finance Director]

SO, SO ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THERE'S AN UPDATE TO THE PURCHASING POLICY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND YOU PROBABLY NOTICED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CHANGES WERE IN APPENDIX A. AND SO TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT, THE REASON IS, IS THAT WHEN WE IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTED OUR NEW FINANCIAL SOFTWARE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED ELECTRONIC WORKFLOWS FOR BOTH ACCOUNTS PAYABLE AND PAYROLL. AND SO OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, WE'VE TAKEN THE TIME TO THE TIME TO KIND OF DIAL THOSE IN.

AND THE POLICY ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT REFLECTS THOSE THOSE ELECTRONIC WORKFLOWS.

GOTCHA. AWESOME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ARE YOU GOING ANYWHERE FOR CHRISTMAS? PARDON ME? ARE YOU GOING ANYWHERE FOR CHRISTMAS? TRAVELING? NO, WE WENT TO NEW YORK OVER THANKSGIVING. OH, NICE.

VERY COOL, VERY COOL. HOW ABOUT YOU, CHIEF? ARE YOU GOING ANYWHERE? ARE YOU STICKING AROUND? I'M GOING TO ASK.

30 LOCAL HOCKEY RINKS, I THINK.

IS WHERE? HOCKEY RINKS. YEAH, I KIND OF FIGURED. ALRIGHT.

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[6. Community Development Director]

SO WE DID TABLE THAT TO YOUR NEXT MEETING ON JANUARY 6TH.

SO WE'LL HIT ON THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

JUST A FEW OTHER THINGS.

I KNOW YOU WERE ALL AWARE OF THE CASE WITH 220 MYRTLE.

THE ROOF REPLACEMENT THAT WENT BACK TO THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS THERE.

THE INSTALLER WAS THERE. IT WAS A GOOD CONVERSATION. UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF A POLYMER SHINGLE THAT LOOKS FROM THE GROUND.

YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE ORIGINAL. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE INSTALLED STARTING IN THE SPRING. SO GOOD OUTCOME THERE.

FANTASTIC. GREAT. THANK YOU.

RYAN, I THINK YOU'VE ALSO, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD, YOU WILL. YOU WILL BE HEARING 201 MAIN STREET.

FIRST RESOURCE BANK IS OPENING A SECOND BRANCH.

THEY'LL BE MOVING INTO THAT BUILDING. WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THEM. THEY'RE GOING TO START REMODELING, I THINK AFTER JANUARY 1ST.

THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE POSSESSION OF IT, AND THEY'VE BEEN TALKING WITH STAFF, AND THEY'LL BE COMING TO ADD SOME MORE WINDOWS ON THAT VERY PUBLIC SIDE FACING CHESTNUT PLAZA.

TO REALLY MAKE THAT A MORE INTERACTIVE SPACE. THEY REALLY WANT TO DO THINGS THAT ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND THAT'LL BE A GREAT PROJECT AS WELL. AND THEN JUST TO FOLLOW UP, WE'RE MEETING DOWNTOWN PARKING ON THURSDAY AND START DOING OUR CHECKLIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE PROMISED WE'D DO, TACKLING SPECIAL PARKING ARRANGEMENTS AND ALL THOSE UNIQUE SIGNAGE THAT'S OUT THERE AND KIND OF GETTING A HANDLE ON THOSE. SO JUST A FEW THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP. AWESOME.

THANK YOU. JASON. HOLIDAY TRAVEL PLANS.

MINNESOTA STICKING AROUND.

YEAH. WHAT'S GOING ON? ALL RIGHT. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DIRECTOR.

[7. Administrative Services Director]

THE ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO DO GREAT WORK.

IF YOU REMEMBER, SHORTLY AFTER I STARTED IS WHEN WE STARTED GATHERING DATA FOR OUR WEBSITE. SO WE HAVE FIVE WHOLE MONTHS OF DATA NOW, WHICH IS NOT VERY MUCH, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THERE IS A CLEAR PATTERN THAT A NUMBER OF OUR PAGES, A SMALL NUMBER OF PAGES GET A LOT OF VIEWS, AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF PAGES THAT DON'T GET ANY.

THERE'S SOME 0 OR 1 CLICKS IN THOSE FIVE MONTHS.

SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.

AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, OUR PERMITTING STAFF IS WORKING ON GETTING SOME SOFTWARE FOR THAT, AND ONE OF THOSE VERY HIGHLY CLICKED PAGES IS ALL OF OUR PERMITS.

SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT, PICK THAT SOFTWARE, AND THEN SEE WHAT ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE AND THE PERMIT THEY'RE ACTIVELY DOING THAT.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON WITH MORE WEBSITE UPDATES. BUT THAT DATA IS STILL ROLLING IN.

IT TAKES SOME TIME TO TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE TO THROW IN A COUPLE KEY SEARCHES IN THERE TO, TO TO SKEW OFF MY DATA HERE AND THERE, BUT FOR THE KIDS IN THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU WANT TO JUST HAMMER OUR WEBSITE WITH LIKE A SINGLE PHRASE THAT YOU THINK IS REALLY FUNNY, IT'LL SHOW UP ON HER RADAR.

SO GO FOR IT. BUT MAKE SURE YOU SPELL IT THE SAME WAY THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S JUST CHAOS. THE EXACT SAME. OR IT WON'T SHOW UP. OTHER THAN THAT, JUST SUPPORTING ALL THINGS COMMUNICATION.

I THINK WE'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB GETTING PROACTIVE COMMUNICATION.

AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO BUILD JUST DIFFERENT PARTS OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

WE CAN COMMUNICATE WELL. AWESOME.

YOU'RE DOING VERY NICE. THANK YOU. YES, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

AWESOME. CITY CLERK AND I'M GOING TO PLUM CITY, WISCONSIN FOR CHRISTMAS.

OH, SORRY. PLUM CITY. PLUM CITY.

MAN, I THOUGHT I KNEW THEM ALL. BLINK.

YOU'LL MISS IT. YOU EVER BEEN TO PLUM CITY? GOOD EVENING. I DO HAVE A FEW THINGS THIS TIME TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL TONIGHT AND WITH

[8. City Clerk]

WASHINGTON COUNTY HAS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED THEIR BOOK OF APPEAL AND EQUALIZATION OPEN BOOK MEETINGS COMING UP FOR APRIL 2ND, 16TH AND 22ND.

SO IF THOSE ARE A CONFLICT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

ON JANUARY 1ST, RAMSEY, WASHINGTON COUNTY RECYCLING AND ENERGY WILL ADJUST ITS TIPPING FEES TO COVER THE OPERATING OPERATING COSTS AT THE R&D CENTER.

THESE INCREASES ARE PASSED FROM THE HAULER ONTO THE RESIDENTS.

[01:25:03]

SO YOUR BILL IS THREE MONTHS.

SO IT COULD BE $1.50 UP TO 345.

GOTCHA. SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHO IN MY WARD WILL BE REACHING OUT TO LET ME KNOW.

WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT ONE.

THAT ONE'S THE COUNTY. SO DON'T STOP HIM.

MARK YOUR 2026 CALENDARS FOR TWO EVENTS ORGANIZED BY THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION.

THEIR ANNUAL MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENT WILL BE ON JANUARY 19TH, AND THEY HAVE A NEW EVENT CALLED SUMMER NEIGHBORS, WHICH WILL BE ON MARCH 4TH OVER AT THE LIBRARY.

OUR VERY INFORMATIVE WINTER NEWSLETTER IS CURRENTLY AT THE PRINTERS, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT ARRIVE IN YOUR MAILBOXES BY CHRISTMAS.

ON A FUN SIDE, THE HOLIDAY SPIRIT IS IN FULL SWING HERE AT THE CITY HALL AND AT SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. OUR COOKIE EXCHANGE WAS.

YESTERDAY WAS A BIG HIT.

CONGRATS TO COREY FOR WINNING THE PRETTIEST COOKIE AWARD! BE SURE TO TAKE A STROLL THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENTS AND CHECK OUT THE CREATIVITY OF THE DOOR DECORATING CONTEST.

VOTING WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE HOLIDAY EMPLOYEE PARTY TOMORROW.

IF YOU STOP BY MY OFFICE, YOU CAN PLAY PLINKO TO EARN SOME CANDY AND MAYBE BRIBE YOU TO VOTE FOR ME TOMORROW.

WHERE'S OUR COOKIE SAMPLES? WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ANY SUPPER. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY. JUST ONE QUICK ONE.

IT HAS BEEN REALLY FUN WORKING WITH BETH ON HUMAN RIGHTS, DESPITE RECENT UPHEAVAL OF OUR AGENDA AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THE KIDS BECAUSE ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS, ONE OF THE, THE HUMAN RIGHTS MEMBERS AND HER FRIEND GROUP HAS BEEN.

IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC CIVIC LESSON.

IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO LIKE GET HER THOUGHTS ON STUFF LIKE THIS.

AND IT'S KIND OF THAT DAD, STEP WHERE YOU STEP BACK, SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK HERE? AND YOU'VE BEEN A FANTASTIC PARTNER IN THAT.

SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE SHE DIDN'T GET TO DO A REPORT IN THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN WORKING VERY HARD WITH HER FRIEND AND NANCY LEINER ON THE MLK BREAKFAST.

THEY HAVE BEEN CONTACTING A TON OF FOLKS IN THE SCHOOL, TEACHERS, STUDENTS SOME OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENT UNION FOLKS REALLY TRYING TO GET SOME OF THEIR PEERS ENGAGED IN MLK BREAKFAST.

AND I'M JUST SUPER PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.

I HAVE BEEN 100% HANDS OFF AND JUST WATCH THAT THING HAPPEN.

AND IT'S BEEN DELIGHTFUL. SHE COMES HOME AND TELLS ME, OH YEAH, NANCY SENT ME AN EIGHT PAGE TEXT AGAIN, AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, THAT'S YOU WILL YOU WILL NOT OVERPOWER NANCY. SO IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN FUN TO SEE.

IT'S BEEN FUN TO WORK WITH YOU. AND JUST LASTLY, A REMINDER TO APPLY FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS.

WE STILL HAVE THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AND THE ENERGY ACTION COMMISSION, SOME OPENINGS, AND THAT'S DUE BY DECEMBER 22ND.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I DID INCIDENTALLY, I HAD A KID REACH OUT OR NOT, KID A YOUNG A YOUNG ADULT REACH OUT.

HE SAID HE WANTED TO BE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, AND HE SAID HE EMAILED SOMEONE OR SOMETHING.

HIS NAME IS DONOVAN. YEAH, I GOT HIM.

YOU GOT HIM? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET HIM IN TOUCH WITH WHOEVER.

PERFECT. THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH.

IN TRAVEL. WHERE ARE WE GOING? GOING TO BEAVER CREEK OR VAIL OR WHATEVER.

I'M GOING TO VAIL. GOING TO VAIL, OF COURSE.

THAT IS LIKE. I SO HOPE WHEN THE DAY COMES, IF I HAVE GRANDKIDS THAT THEY LIVE IN VAIL BECAUSE I'M GOING TO WANT TO VISIT THEM ALL THE TIME. AND IF I HAVE TO GO TO VAIL ALL THE TIME, YOU ARE LIKE THE LUCKIEST GRANDMA.

WELL, ACTUALLY, I GOT AN EARLY CHRISTMAS PRESENT.

THEY'RE MOVING HOME. OH.

THAT'S BETTER. VERY EXCITED.

THAT'S COMING. THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BITTERSWEET FOR ME. MAYBE.

MAYBE ENCOURAGE THEM TO STAY IN VAIL.

I WANT TO SEE THAT GRANDBABY.

IF MY KIDS ARE WATCHING, IF YOU WANT A BABYSITTER ALL THE TIME, LIVE IN VAIL. ALRIGHT.

CITY ATTORNEY. YOUR HONORS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL ACTIVE LITIGATION

[9. City Attorney]

THAT WAS A MAJOR WIN. I DIDN'T WIN TURKEY BINGO.

OUR PACKER, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATION LOST AT THE BORDER BATTLE.

SO THE COOKIE WIN WAS BIG FOR ME.

THANK YOU. COREY, ON THAT NOTE OF COOKIES AND COMPETITION, I WILL SAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PAULINA AND COLLINS, MYSELF AND COMMUNITY MEMBER CHRISTINA FRITZ ALSO SHOWED UP IN SPADES AT THE GINGERBREAD MAKING CONTEST ON SUNDAY WITH THE HOMETOWN FOR THE HOLIDAYS AND CREATED A HOCKEY RINK.

ACTUALLY, MIKE AND I DID I PUT A TINY LITTLE CANNABIS FACILITY RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

YOU COULDN'T TELL. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. OH, LINDSAY, I'VE BEEN HOLDING ON TO THAT FOR A WEEK. OH, THIS IS GREAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COREY AND TREVOR, WHERE ARE WE GOING?

[01:30:01]

WOW. ALL RIGHT. AND CITY ADMINISTRATOR.

[10. City Administrator]

YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEARING A LOT ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

SO THE FUN STARTS. THURSDAY MORNING, JANUARY 15TH.

I HIGHLY SUGGEST EVERYONE TO CHECK OUT WORLD SNOW CELEBRATION COMM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF EVENTS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTING.

IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE THE ORDEAL WITH 16 DIFFERENT TEAMS FROM AROUND THE WORLD, SO GET EXCITED FOR THAT.

TO THE MIDDLE PART OF JANUARY, IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF OUR POSTS FROM THE CITY GOT LIKE 1.3 MILLION VIEWS OR SOMETHING.

IT BEAT MY CHRISTMAS TREE VIDEO ALREADY.

I WAS KIND OF I WAS KIND OF HOLDING THE RECORD.

DUDE, 1.3 MILLION ON WORLD SNOW.

WOW. YEAH. WELL DONE. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY THE BEAUTY OF STILLWATER IS THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY GET INVOLVED.

YEAH, WE SAW THAT. THEY GET INVOLVED AND WE AND TONIGHT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

BUT PEOPLE GET INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING AND THEY TRY TO MAKE STILLWATER.

YEAH I SHOULDN'T SAY GREAT.

I'LL SAY BETTER. PREMIER.

PREMIER. PREMIER. STILLWATER.

PREMIER. AND EVERYTHING WE DO. AND YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME THAT WE.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT WE COULD DO WITH THE STUFF.

BUT I JUST THINK EVERYBODY GET INVOLVED IN WORLD SNOW GETTING INVOLVED IN THE CHRISTMAS TREE. I MEAN I COULD NOT BELIEVE HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME DOWN FOR THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY. AND IT'S A COMMUNITY THING THAT PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING EACH OTHER IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW OTHER COMMUNITIES BEEN ASKING ME, HOW DO YOU GUYS DO IT? AND STILLWATER, I SAID, IT'S THE COMMUNITY, IT'S THE COMMUNITY.

EVERYTHING IS THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

OH, I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT.

ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FOR STAFF ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[VII. CONSENT AGENDA – These items are routine and will be approved in one motion.]

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? AND THAT PASSES WITH FIVE VOTES.

MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS.

A TOBACCO LICENSE FOR STILL TOBACCO.

[28. Tobacco License for Still Tobacco – Resolution]

AND WE'RE NOT MOVING BOTH, YOUR HONOR.

IT'S BOTH. SO STILL, TOBACCO HAS BEEN OPERATING AT THIS SITE FOR SINCE I FORGET.

HOW MANY YEARS. HOW LONG? 15.

SO THEY APPLIED FOR THE RENEWAL TOBACCO LICENSE.

AND ONE SPOT ON THE APPLICATION STATES YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LIST ALL OF YOUR OFFENSES RELATED TO ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OR ANY RELATED TO ANY VIOLATIONS FOR THE BUSINESS.

THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE APPLICATION WAS BLANK.

AS ALWAYS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES A BACKGROUND CHECK, AND THE BACKGROUND CHECK REVEALED THAT THERE WERE ACTUALLY TWO MISDEMEANOR PETTY MISDEMEANOR CONVICTIONS FOR UNDERAGE FAILING THE UNDERAGE COMPLIANCE CHECKS AT ANOTHER LOCATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR ADVOCATE, AND THE APPLICANT WAS ACTUALLY THE PERSON THAT WAS CONVICTED OF THOSE OFFENSES. SO FAILING, THAT'S JUST A PETTY MISDEMEANOR.

WELL, IT WAS REDUCED. IT WAS REDUCED.

IT WAS CHARGED AS A MISDEMEANOR AND WAS REDUCED TO A PETTY AS PART OF THE PLEA AGREEMENT. IN ADDITION, THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, THE STILL TOBACCO LOCATION AT MARKET DRIVE, DID FAIL OUR OWN COMPLIANCE CHECK, BOTH FOR BOTH TOBACCO AND FOR THC PRODUCT.

SO GIVEN THE THREE VIOLATIONS WITHIN A TWO YEAR PERIOD, WE REALLY FELT LIKE IT WAS TIME TO SORT OF HOLD THE OWNER ACCOUNTABLE WITH A LITTLE MORE SERIOUS TYPE OF A LICENSE CALLED A PROVISIONAL LICENSE, PUTTING A CONDITION ON THE LICENSE THAT THEY HAVE AN AGE VERIFICATION DEVICE THAT THEY MUST USE AND ALWAYS USE ON EVERY SINGLE TOBACCO.

AND WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY RECOMMEND THE THC PRODUCTS AS WELL.

THAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW.

BUT THIS IS A TOBACCO LICENSE, SO WE CAN'T IMPOSE THAT KIND OF A CONDITION? BUT GIVEN THAT THEIR PRODUCTS ARE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES, THAT YOU MUST BE 21 TO BUY THEM AN AGE VERIFICATION DEVICE THAT WORKS, THAT CANNOT BE OVERRIDDEN.

AND IF IT IS NOT OPERABLE, THEY CANNOT SELL THE PRODUCT.

THAT'S THE CONDITION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.

WE THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET THE OWNER'S ATTENTION.

THIS IS SERIOUS THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE COMPLIANCE CHECK FAILURES WHEN YOUR PRODUCTS ALL REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO BE 21 TO BUY THEM.

SO THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION WE AREN'T RECOMMENDING AT THIS TIME.

YOU KNOW, DENIAL OR A SUSPENSION OR JUST RECOMMENDING A PROVISIONAL LICENSE TO GET THE OWNER'S ATTENTION TO, TO USE THE AGE VERIFICATION DEVICES AND TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND AND I HE SHOULD BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD IF HE WANTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. I WILL TELL YOU.

IS THAT OKAY? I OWN THREE BUSINESSES.

OKAY. MY EXPOSURE IS A LOT MORE THAN JUST ONE.

I HAVE A CORVETTE FOR 15 YEARS.

I HAVE ONE VIOLATION, WHICH IS ONE VIOLATION TOO MANY.

BUT IN 15 YEARS, I HAVE ONE VIOLATION.

THE OTHER VIOLATION. I, I HAVE MORE BUSINESSES.

OKAY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TOWN.

AND YOU GET AN EMPLOYEE THAT DOESN'T DO THE JOB.

I FIRED HIM. OF COURSE.

BUT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT I'M A BAD OPERATOR.

IT'S JUST THAT I HAVE A LOT MORE EXPOSURE THAN WHAT? YOU THINK. IT'S FAIR. IT'S FAIR.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, SIR. YEP.

[01:35:01]

SO, COREY, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

SO THIS IS JUST FOR ONE YEAR.

AND THEN WHEN HE WOULD REAPPLY FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, AS LONG AS THERE'S BEEN NO OTHER VIOLATIONS, PROVISIONAL LICENSE GOES AWAY AND THEN WE'RE BACK TO STATUS QUO. EXACTLY.

OKAY. I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

THAT'S FAIR. YEAH. THANK YOU.

I MEAN, I'VE HAD THAT ONE VIOLATION, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO, BUT YOU GO IN THERE NO MATTER WHAT. OH, MY GOD, THEY'RE LOOKING AT YOUR YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE. I TRIED TO GET A CARPET CLEANER FROM THEM AND THEY WERE LIKE, YEAH, I GUESS WE'RE NUTS.

THEY ARE REALLY GOOD. SO GREAT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT A MOTION A A SECOND COUNCIL.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? AND THAT PASSES WITH FIVE VOTES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SITTING THROUGH ALL THAT. ALL RIGHT, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE CHRIST, BEFORE OUR OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY BACK HERE NEXT YEAR. EVERYBODY HAVE A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS.

ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAY. ENJOY YOUR TIME OFF.

I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR CITY AND OUR CITY STAFF THIS YEAR.

A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK. WE'VE GOT JASON WITH US NOW.

WE'VE GOT ELIZABETH WITH US NOW. WE'VE GOT NEW PEOPLE, AND WE'RE CRUSHING AND JUST REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ALL HERE. SO ENJOY YOUR BREAK.

HAVE A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL OF STILLWATER. HAVE A HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

ALL THOSE THINGS. HAVE FUN. ENJOY THE SNOW.

I LOVE THAT WE'VE GOT THIS MUCH SNOW THIS EARLY IN THE YEAR.

THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME FOR CHRISTMAS.

I'M LOVING IT. COME ON SNOW MAN.

AWESOME. WITHOUT TO THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

WE'RE ADJOURNED AT 837.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.