[00:00:01] OUT. IT'S NOT POP, YOU KNOW. OPEN THAT WELL. HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT, I GUESS. MAY WE [I. CALL TO ORDER] CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE PARKS AND RECS COMMISSION? JANUARY 26TH, 7 P.M. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. CHEROKEE HERE. VICE CHAIR. LARSON HERE. COMMISSIONERS. MANIACI HERE. MCSWAIN HERE. LAYMAN AVILES RIGHT HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PAULINA HERE. WE'RE ALL HERE. [III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS? I HAVE ONE WONDERING IF MELITA COULD LOOK AT THE SECTION ABOUT LUMBER. LUMBERJACK LANDING. AND I WAS JUST ABSENT FROM THAT VOTE. YEP. AND I DID TALK TO HER, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT NOTED. AND WE CAN STILL APPROVE IF WE'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE ONE CHANGE. I'LL SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. FORM. AND WE BESIDES THE. TIME YOU'RE ALL TOGETHER AND THEN KELLY. SO. YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE NO ONE FOR OPEN FORUM THEN. OKAY. LET'S SEE. ALL RIGHT. PRESENTATION. HI. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. MY [2. Deep Time Coalition Group - Victoria Bradford Styrbicki] NAME IS VICTORIA BRADFORD AND I'M REPRESENTING OUR DEEP TIME COALITION. WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR GROUP, THE DEEP TIME COALITION. AND ALL THE MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT. SOME OF US ARE. PAUL RED ELK IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT. RUTH ALBAN, STILLWATER RESIDENT, MYSELF AND WOLF MELISSA MAY AND GEORGIA LIKENESS. SO WE CAME TOGETHER AS A STUDY GROUP IN 2024, DRAWN BY A SHARED COMMITMENT TO UNDERSTANDING THE DEEP HISTORY OF THIS PLACE WE CALL HOME STILLWATER. YOU CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WHILE THE CITY IS WIDELY KNOWN FOR ITS LOGGING AND LUMBER MILL PAST, THE STORY REPRESENTS ONLY A SMALL CHAPTER OF A MUCH LONGER HISTORY. BENEATH IT LIES A MUCH DEEPER NARRATIVE SHAPED BY GEOLOGY, HYDROLOGY, AND THE LIVES AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE FIRST PEOPLES OF THIS LAND. OUR GROUP FORMED TO EXPLORE THESE HISTORIES TOGETHER, AND TO IMAGINE A MEANINGFUL WAYS TO SHARE THEM WITH THE BROADER PUBLIC. MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO OUR CURRENT GOAL IS THAT, YOU KNOW, A POWERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC LEARNING EMERGED WITH THE ACQUISITION OF THE APPLE PROPERTY BY STILLWATER PARKS AND RECREATION AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF LUMBERJACK LANDING PARK. THIS 15 ACRE PARK WILL RESTORE HABITAT AND RECONNECT PEOPLE TO THE SAINT CROIX RIVER, OFFERING A RARE CHANCE TO INTERPRET BOTH NATURAL AND CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS PLACE. AS A GROUP OF NATIVE AMERICAN ELDERS, EDUCATORS, ARTISTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS, WE ARE EAGER TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CREATION OF AN INTERPRETIVE PLAN AND A FUTURE PROGRAMING FOR LUMBERJACK LANDING PARK, ONE THAT BRINGS THE FULL HISTORY OF THIS LAND AND WATER INTO VIEW AND HONORS THE TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE PEOPLE WHO FIRST INHABITED IT AND WHO STILL LIVE HERE TODAY. SO NEXT SLIDE. YEAH, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY SUPPORTS AN INTERPRETIVE PLANNING FOR LUMBERJACK LANDING PARK THAT ENGAGES SKILLS, SKILLED INTERPRETIVE PROFESSIONALS, CULTURALLY GROUNDED EDUCATORS, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT INTERPRETATION AT THE PARK HIGHLIGHTS THE SITE'S DEEP TIME HISTORY AND UNIQUE CULTURAL AND NATURAL SIGNIFICANCE. SO YOU CAN MOVE. YEAH, WE BELIEVE THAT THOUGHTFUL INTERPRETATION WILL ENHANCE VISITOR UNDERSTANDING, FOSTER RESPECT FOR THE LAND, THE WATER, AND STRENGTHEN THE PUBLIC'S CONNECTION TO THE SHARED PLACE ALONG THE SAINT CROIX RIVER. TO THAT END, WE REQUEST UPDATES ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. WHAT IS THE INTERPRETIVE AND PROGRAM PLANNING PROCESS FOR LUMBERJACK LANDING PARK? GIVEN THE THREE ENTITIES WORKING ON THE SITE THE CITY, THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, AND THE. THE RIVERS? YES, YES, WILD RIVERS WHO WILL LEAD THE INTERPRETIVE PLANNING AND PROGRAMING PROCESS? WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR INTERPRETIVE PLANNING AND WHEN WILL THIS PROCESS BEGIN? AS THE SAINT CROIX DEEP TIME COALITION, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. WE BRING A LOT OF WISDOM AS WELL AS OUR CONNECTION TO THE SCHOOLS. MANY OF OUR NATIVE AMERICAN ELDERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS WORK IN THE SCHOOLS AS [00:05:05] EDUCATORS IN NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE. WE HAVE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CHURCHES AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. IS THERE A PLAN FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WHICH WE WOULD LOVE TO BE INVOLVED IN AND INVOLVEMENT IN INTERPRETIVE PLANNING AND PROGRAMING? SO WE LEAVE YOU TONIGHT WITH A THOUGHT. WHAT ARE THE THREE THINGS ALL NATIVE PEOPLES LOST? THIS COMES FROM ONE OF OUR NATIVE AMERICAN ELDERS IN OUR GROUP. IT'S A THOUGHT THAT MANY PEOPLE CANNOT NAME. THEY CANNOT COME UP WITH WHAT THE ANSWERS TO THIS ARE. SO I'LL GIVE YOU JUST A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS MIGHT BE IN YOUR OWN HEARTS AND MINDS. ACCORDING TO GEORGIA, THE ANSWER IS LAND, CULTURE AND SPIRITUALITY. OUR CONNECTION TO WATER, WIND, FIRE AND EARTH, INTERPRETING NATIVE HISTORY AND TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE INTO THIS NEW PARK BEGINS TO CORRECT THAT LOSS, INVITING US ALL, NATIVE AND NON-NATIVE, TO THE WISDOM AND THE LAND OF THE RIVER. AND SO AGAIN, WE ASK YOU TO INVOLVE US IN THAT PROCESS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROCESS IS HAPPENING, AS I'M SURE IT IS, BECAUSE IT WAS EMBEDDED IN THE MASTER PLAN. BUT WE AGAIN HOPE THAT WE CAN BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS AND ASK YOU HERE TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I WANTED TO SPEAK TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND THAT IS WE'RE CREATING A SUBCOMMITTEE WITH COMMISSIONER RYAN, COMMISSIONER LAYMAN, AND WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT REQUESTS WE HAVE FOR THE PARK. SO LIKE THE ANOTHER GROUP CAME LAST TIME TALKING ABOUT THE BIRD CITY AND WANTING TO HAVE A BIRD CITY PARK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND YOU WANT TO HAVE IT. YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK YOUR TIMING OF THIS IS GREAT BECAUSE WE THIS WILL BRING INTO OUR DISCUSSIONS. OKAY. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING OURSELVES. SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS AND KIND OF LOOK AT THE SUBGROUP. AND THEN WE CAN REACH BACK OUT TO YOU, OR YOU CAN REACH ONE OF OURS AND LET US KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE. YEAH. SO, COMMISSIONER COOK, YOU'RE WE'RE ON THIS SUBJECT AND. IT HASN'T STARTED YET. IT HASN'T STARTED YET. WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED YET. NO. OKAY, BUT YOU'RE TALKING, YOU'RE PROPOSING IT. SO I'M JUST QUESTIONING WHO'S ON THIS COMMISSION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO. I HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED IT YET. YES. NO, WE HAVEN'T EVEN. WE HAVEN'T EVEN FORMED ANYTHING TO EVEN START IT YET. SO WE'RE JUST STARTING TO PUT IT TOGETHER BECAUSE WE HAVE THE THERE. YEAH. IS THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE. MAYBE WE JUST KNOW. WE JUST DID IT. SO I CAN MOVE SO YOU CAN SEE THEM BETTER. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANKS. SO THAT'S WHY YOUR TIMING IS GREAT BECAUSE THIS IS STILL FORMING. THIS IS STILL FORMING. SO WE'RE KIND OF ASKING SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS YOU ARE. AND THERE'S OTHER GROUPS THAT WANT TO BE A PART OF IT. AND SO I THINK WHAT WHAT RUTH IS SAYING IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE IN CONVERSATION WITH YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE AS YOU'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, FORMING THOSE IDEAS. AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE WE BRING SOME KNOWLEDGE AND SOME WISDOM FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE FEEL LIKE THE CITY IS VERY INTERESTED IN COMMUNITY VOICES AND MAKING SURE COMMUNITY VOICES INFORM THE PROCESS OF FORMING ITS ASSETS. AND SO WE ARE HERE TO SAY WE ARE THE COMMUNITY AND PLEASE ACCESS US, USE OUR VOICES, USE OUR KNOWLEDGE IN THIS PROCESS. AND NOW WE KNOW YOU HAVE THIS SUBCOMMITTEE. THAT IS FABULOUS. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. AND PLEASE USE US. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE OUR EMAILS. I THINK YOU KNOW HOW TO GET TO US. AND WE WILL DEFINITELY GET TO YOU. AND AND SO WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. SO WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT AND MAYBE IT'S AN OFFLINE OR NOW, BUT LIKE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND HOW WE GET THE PUBLIC INVOLVED AND WHAT'S THE WAY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING SOME STUFF. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, I'M THINKING, WELL, THE BELL MUSEUM WOULD BE GREAT. OR IS IT DAN PETERSON, AS I'M THINKING HIS ARTICLE ABOUT THE I THINK WOOLY MAMMOTH AND THE BIG. WHAT IS THAT ONE OF THE TUSKS THAT WAS FOUND UP ON THE ROAD UP HERE, YOU KNOW, SO SOME OF THOSE FACTS ARE KIND OF VERY INTERESTING AND COOL FACTS. AND IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, BROUGHT TO THE PLACE. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. COOL. I DO NATIVE EDUCATION. YEAH. OKAY. NICE. YEAH. SO I THINK YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE OFF IN ANY WAY AS FAR AS WHAT [00:10:03] YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE AS FAR ALONG. WE'RE AS FAR ALONG AS YOU THINK WE ARE. YEAH, RIGHT. BECAUSE I'M. I'M I'M MORE HELPING GET THIS ORGANIZED. AND I DO NOTHING WITH IT REALLY YET. SO BUT WE'RE WE'RE WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T EVEN FINALIZED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE OR THE WILD RIVER CONSERVANCY YET, SO WE REALLY HAVEN'T EVEN GOT THAT FAR YET. I THINK WE REALIZED THAT WE MIGHT BE AHEAD OF THE GAME, BUT NO, THAT'S WHY IS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GET THERE, WE'RE HERE TO BE A SUPPORT SYSTEM FOR YOU. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE THESE RESOURCES. HE WORKS AT THE BELL MUSEUM. HE IS A NATIVE AMERICAN EDUCATOR. LIKE WE ARE READY TO SUPPORT YOU WHEN YOU GET THERE, WHEN YOU'RE READY TO DO THIS WORK, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE WORK WILL HAPPEN. WE BELIEVE YOU WILL DO THE WORK. WE JUST WANT TO BE THE RESOURCES. WHEN YOU'RE READY. THAT'S GREAT. YOU GUYS CAME BECAUSE I DID NOT EVEN KNOW THIS GROUP EXISTED. SO. AND I THINK THERE ARE OTHERS. I'VE ALREADY BEEN CONTACTED BY SOMEBODY WHO FOUND OUT THAT WE WERE COMING HERE TONIGHT, AND THEY WANTED TO BE AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. SO I THINK THERE ARE MANY VOICES THAT WANT TO COME TO THE TABLE TO SUPPORT THIS WORK. AND WHY ARE WE SO INSPIRED? BECAUSE IT'S A GORGEOUS PIECE OF PROPERTY BEYOND ANYTHING ELSE. IT EXISTS. THE FACT THAT IT EXISTS IS THANKS TO THE PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA. IF THEY HADN'T CONTRIBUTED THROUGH THROUGH TAX DOLLARS, WE THIS TOWN WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD THAT. SO IT'S IT'S PRECIOUS. AND WE'RE INTERESTED IN IN ASSISTING AND ADDING ADDING OUR INPUT. PAUL. SO YEAH ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. OTHERWISE WE CAN KNOW AS LONG AS CHAD HAS ALL YOUR INFORMATION AND STUFF. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T EVEN FINALIZED THE CONTRACTS WITH OR THE AGREEMENTS WITH WILD RIVER AND THE NATIONAL PARK YET. AND THEY HAVE MONEY. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO PROGRAM IT YET. SO WE JUST HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING WE'VE RESTORED. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU PAUL. THANK YOU EVERYONE, FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR LISTENING TO US TONIGHT. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. YES. AS LONG AS ROCKY HAS ALL THE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HIS HIS BOSS, SEAN. AND LIKE, WE LIKE I SAID, I NEED TO TRY TO GET ANOTHER MEETING ESTABLISHED AND EVEN START GOING ON IT, BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO OPEN IT TILL PROBABLY, MAYBE EVEN FALL OF NEXT YEAR. YES. OKAY. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THE ROAD DONE AND THE LANDSCAPING DONE AND THE DOCS DONE AND WELL, WE'RE GLAD TO BE ON THE GROUND LEVEL AND GET OUR VOICES, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIX. SO I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING US TONIGHT. AND CHAD DOES HAVE OUR CONTACT INFORMATION. SO WITH YOU. OKAY. GREAT. DO NOT WANT MISSY ME ON THERE HELPING THOUGH. SHE'S A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. SHE'S A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. OH, SHE'S SHE'S PART OF OUR GROUP. DID YOU KNOW THAT? I JUST HEARD IT. YEAH, YEAH, OKAY. MOVING ON TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS. I THINK. YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT THE FINAL [3. 2026 Playground Design Approval - Benson and Schulenberg] DESIGNS AND COLORS THAT WE DECIDED TO GO WITH. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE BENSON PARK. WE DID TRY TO MAKE IT. WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCESSIBLE FEATURES WITH THIS NEW SLIDE. AND THEN WE DID GET TO ADD THAT SWING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THAT OVER THERE, WHICH KIND OF THIS WHOLE THING KIND OF TURNED OUT TO BE KIND OF NEAT OVER THERE. SO THE. SOMEONE WAS ASKING ABOUT WHERE IT WOULD FIT IN. I DON'T HAVE AS GOOD A I JUST MADE THIS ONE MYSELF. BUT WE'LL ELIMINATE THIS WHERE THE SWINGS ARE, AND IT'S GOING TO ALL FIT IN THE SAME BASIC, YOU KNOW, FOOTPRINT. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TOUCH A TREE. SO THAT WAS KIND OF COOL. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME GROUND WORK AND RAISE KIND OF A CORNER HERE AND THERE. BUT IT SHOULD FIT IN REAL NICE. AND THEN IT KEEPS US RIGHT BY THE, YOU KNOW, THE PAVILION AND ALL THAT. THE RED IS JUST SHOWING. THERE WILL BE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, TRAIL GOING TO THE ENTRANCE TO MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE. BUT THE VOLLEYBALL COURT STAYS THE SAME FOR NOW, I THINK. SEPARATE THING IF. YEAH, I MEAN, IF IT COMES UP AND WE DECIDE MAYBE NO ONE DOES USE IT AND IT'S JUST A MAINTENANCE HEADACHE, WE COULD GET RID OF IT. BUT I MEAN, REALLY RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT TOO MUCH OF A HASSLE TO KEEP IT THERE. AND WHAT WAS WHAT WAS GOING WHERE. THE SWINGS WERE JUST GRASS. WHERE THIS. WELL, WE'LL PULL ALL THAT OUT AND JUST. YEP. AND JUST PUT IT, MAKE IT BACK TO GRASS. YEAH. BUT KIND OF THE COLORS STARTED STARTING TO USE A LOT OF THIS GREEN AND BLUE COLORING. WE COULD START TO BE A LITTLE MORE POPULAR. KIND OF WORKED WITH THE DESIGNER ON THE COLOR ON THAT ONE. THERE'S JUST [00:15:01] MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF LIKE THE PLAN. LOOK AT IT ALL. YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT WOULD FIT IN THAT SAME, THAT SAME AREAS WHERE WE WERE BEFORE FOR WHATEVER. THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE ABOUT COLOR SCHEME IS THAT SOMETIMES DARKER COLORS GET VERY HOT TO THE TOUCH, AND I THINK THAT'S JUST CONFIRM THAT IT'S LIKE A LIGHTER BLUE AND NOT LIKE A NAVY, LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE A SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GET IN THIS COLOR IS A COLOR THAT'S SUPPOSEDLY GOOD FOR THAT. YES. SO HE USUALLY WILL NOT LET LET ME SELECT A SLIDE OR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE HOT. HE'S PRETTY AWARE OF THAT. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN HERE THE THE THIS IS SCHULENBURG KIND OF, YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT BRIGHTER BUT A LITTLE SMALLER PARK KIND OF GOT ALL OUR FEATURES IN THERE AGAIN THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. ADDED A BUNCH OF LIKE SMALLER LITTLE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT THE KIDS COULD DO THERE. BUT THEN THERE'S THE DRAWING AND THIS, THIS WILL FIT IN THE EXACT SAME. FOOTPRINT AS THE OTHER ONE. BUT AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO DO SOME GROUNDWORK. WE ARE GOING TO ADD A TRAIL THAT COMES AT THE ENTRANCE. I THINK THE ENTRANCE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO MOVE OVER HERE, BUT THERE'LL BE A TRAIL THAT COMES OFF THAT ROAD HERE. THEN IT'LL GO AROUND AND IT'LL GO UP TO THE PAVILION TOO, AND WE'LL ACTUALLY MAKE AN AREA WHERE WE CAN PUT THE TRASH CAN ON THERE, AND THERE WILL BE A PORTA POTTY. SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO INCORPORATE ALL THAT IN THE LITTLE TRAIL THAT GOES ON THERE. SO IT'LL KIND OF TIE IT ALL TOGETHER. SO BACK ON THE BENSON PLAN. YEP. THAT ACCESSIBLE RAMP IS THAT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THAT NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK OR SOMETHING OR. YEAH OKAY. YEAH I'M BLOCKING YOUR VIEWS I CAN SEE IT OKAY. SO IT'LL BE HERE IN THE TRAIL ON THE TRAIL WILL JUST IS RIGHT HERE. WILL CONNECT RIGHT TO IT. GOING INTO IT. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO VERBALLY COMMIT TO THEM AND WE SO WE DID GET INTO THE THE PRICING FOR 2025. SO I GUESS WE'RE JUST FOR MYSELF JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR FINAL APPROVAL AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE SOMEBODY SHOWING UP A LITTLE BIT LATE, BUT ONLY A COUPLE MINUTES SO YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND. OKAY. SURE THING. YEAH, I APOLOGIZE, MY EARS ARE ONLY PARTIALLY HERE, BUT I'M THINKING KIND OF IN ORDER, I HOPE KIND OF A SPONTANEOUS ATTENDING CAME ACROSS MY PHONE THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THIS A COUPLE THINGS. MY RECENT EXPERIENCE. WELL, FIRST OFF I'M DENNIS FARISH, NORTH END OF AFTON. HAPPY TO BE YOUR NEIGHBOR. I ENJOY YOUR FESTIVAL AND ENJOY YOUR MUSIC, ENJOY YOUR TENNIS COURTS AND LIFE IN GENERAL HERE IN THE VALLEY. SO BUT MY RECENT EXPERIENCE WAS I KNEW THE BROWN CREEK TRAIL WAS PUT IN RECENTLY. I THOUGHT, OKAY, I'LL GO, I'LL GO SKI THAT. AND I KNEW ABOUT WHERE IT WAS. SO I JUST HIT GOOGLE MAPS ELM STREET IN 95, KNOW ELM STREET. SO I SAID, WELL, I KNOW IT GOES OVER THAT BRIDGE OVER THERE. LET'S GO DOWN THERE. AND IT'S PROBABLY SIGN SAYING THE STARTING POINT HERE. NO, NOTHING. SO WELL, IT MUST CROSS SOME UP HERE SOMEWHERE ACROSS 96 OR SOMETHING. I'M DRIVING AROUND, I FINALLY SEE A LITTLE KIOSK, AND I FOUND BROWN CREEK SIGNAGE. BIG PROBLEM FOR EFFICIENCY IN EVERY WORD, ANYWHERE. A SIGN, MAYBE SOMEWHERE. I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT A LOT OF SIGNS. NOBODY WANTS A LOT OF SIGNS. BUT THAT COULD SAVE A LOT OF CHASING AND NOT BURNING UP ENERGY. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ROLE IN THIS OR NOT, BUT IT'S BEEN ON MY MIND FOR YEARS. FIREWORKS I USED TO WORK AT STATE LEGISLATURE HAZARD NEWSPAPER ARTICLES. EVERY YEAR SOMEBODY GOT LOST HER. I, I GREW UP WITH A FRIEND, HAD A BIG SCAR LIKE THIS ACROSS HIS FACE FROM A FIREWORKS UNDERNEATH A COFFEE CAN. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS COMES TO THE LEGISLATURE EVERY YEAR AND SAY, AND AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BAD THING, BAD THING, I DON'T KNOW, KEEPS GOING ON. AND THE HEAVY METALS LINE FALLING ON THE SAINT CROIX RIVER. SO THAT BRINGS ME TO THE GOVERNOR'S FISSURE OPENER FISHING OPENER, WHICH I JUST CAN'T CAME UP WITH THAT ONE. DENNIS ANDERSON WROTE. YEP, GOVERNOR WALZ IS DOING THIS AND THAT. HE'S IGNORING 80% OF THE LAKE SOUTH OF THE METROPOLITAN AREA. NOT FIT FOR SWIMMING, FOR SWIMMING, A GOOD PORTION OF THE SUMMER. MY SUGGESTION AND I INVITE ALL THE LEGISLATORS OVER TO SUMMER. COME AND SWIM IN THIS LAKE. LET'S HAVE A PICNIC. OH, I DON'T WANT TO GO SWIMMING. [00:20:03] TELL THAT TO THE FISH. SO THAT'S MY MESSAGE TO THE GOVERNOR. WHEN HE COMES DOWN HERE, TELL THE FISH NOT TO GO SWIMMING IN THE LAKE. AND I'M BACKING DENNIS ANDERSON ON HIS CONCERNS. YEAH, I GUESS I GOT IT ALL IN. SO. ALL RIGHT, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. AND MAYBE I'LL COME BACK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY FOLLOW UP ON ANY OF THAT THINKING. WELL, THE LAST ONE I WILL TELL YOU ON THE FIRST PART. SO THE WAVE FINDINGS FOR TRAILS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE ARE DOING A PARKS MASTER PLAN RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS IN THE PLANS TO SEE WHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CONNECT AND HAVE BETTER SIGNAGE FOR YOU. SO IT'S COMING. IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, NO PROBLEM. BUT MY POINT IS TO BE A CITIZEN ALL YEAR THIS YEAR. SO I'LL BE BUGGING PEOPLE. ALL RIGHT. AND I CAN GIVE YOU IN THE HUMOR DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN HAVE MY BORING VOICE, WHICH IT KIND OF PERKED UP INTO A FRENCH TONE A LITTLE BIT THERE. OR YOU CAN GET MY BEST INTERPRETATION OF GEORGE CARLIN. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S HOW I DO IT PRETTY WELL. YEAH. MY OWN DEFINITION OF A VERY IMPORTANT WORD. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. TELL YOU, IF YOU'RE INTO POLITICS, YOU GET IN A DISCUSSION THAT'S A LITTLE. THAT GUY. OH, GEEZ. I DON'T WANT TO BE AROUND THAT GUY. JUST SAY I'LL LET GEORGE TALK TO YOU, GEORGE CARLIN. HE'LL. HE'LL TALK TO YOU. IT WORKS. YOU GET A LAUGH. YOU GET A LAUGH. AND AND SO, YOU KNOW, [4. Governor’s Fishing Opener - New Event] YOU WON. YOU WON YOUR POINT. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANKS VERY MUCH. NEW BUSINESS. SPEAKING OF GOVERNOR'S FISHING OPENER, BRING KELLY UP. ALL RIGHT. INTRODUCE YOURSELF. HI, I'M KELLY NYGAARD WITH DISCOVER STILLWATER. OKAY. OH, GREAT. BEEN WORKING HERE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. AND I THINK THIS IS MY SECOND TIME IN FRONT OF THIS GROUP. PREVIOUSLY, WE WERE HERE FOR THE SIGNAGE AND LOWELL PARK, WHICH HAS BEEN REALLY REMARKABLE HIT. AND WE CONSTANTLY SEE PEOPLE OUT THERE TAKING PHOTOS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THAT. WHILE CHAD IS PULLING THIS UP, I'LL GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND. SO THE GOVERNOR'S FISHING OPENER HAS BEEN AN EVENT FOR 78 YEARS THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE STATE. IT'S A BIPARTISAN EVENT AND IT'S HOSTED ACTUALLY BY EXPLORE MINNESOTA. AND REGARDLESS OF WHICH PARTY IS IN OFFICE, THEY BRING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO THAT COMMUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT THE OUTDOOR RECREATION. IT'S A COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS, SO COMMUNITIES HAVE TO APPLY TO BE SELECTED. AND IN THE 78 YEARS THAT IT'S BEEN GOING, WE HAVE NEVER ONCE HAD IT IN STILLWATER OR ON THE SAINT CROIX RIVER. SO IT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION TO SAY THAT THIS MIGHT BE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HOST THIS. WE DO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS IN PLACE WITH EXPLORE MINNESOTA AS THE KEY, YOU KNOW, ELEMENT OF THIS, THE DNR. AND THEN WE HAVE AREA PARTNERSHIPS AS WELL WITH GROUPS LIKE WILD RIVERS CONSERVANCY TO ASSIST WITH SOME OF THE EDUCATION AND THINGS. AND THE UNITED WAY. THEY'RE GOING TO BRING US SOME OF THEIR BOAT HOSTS FROM THEIR YOUTH FISHING EVENT. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF STILLWATER, THE CITY OF OAK PARK HEIGHTS, WHO WE ALSO RECEIVE LODGING TAX FROM. AND THEN WE'RE WORKING JUST TO MAKE IT A REALLY HOLISTIC AND WELL-ROUNDED EVENT. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE SAINT CROIX WALLEYE FEDERATION TO CONNECT US AGAIN WITH SOME BOAT HOSTS, BECAUSE WE ANTICIPATE 300 PEOPLE COMING, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, 125 STUDENTS FROM THE LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHO WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION, THE RIVER AND FISHING. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE EVENT. IT RUNS FROM THURSDAY, MAY 7TH THROUGH SATURDAY, MAY 9TH, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT IT. BUT AS CHAD HAS PULLED UP HERE, WE ARE HOPING TO HOST THE LION'S SHARE OF THE EVENT IN LOWELL PARK JUST TO SHOWCASE THE WALKABILITY OF THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'LL HAVE ALL OF OUR VIPS STAYING DOWNTOWN SO THEY CAN PARK ONCE AND THEN NEVER HAVE TO MOVE AGAIN. AND THEN WE ARE ACTUALLY ALSO PLANNING TO USE THE MARINA AND THE GAS DOCK AS A SPOT WHEN THEY COME IN FOR THEIR SHORE LUNCH. SO AGAIN, PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING TO SHUTTLE BACK AND FORTH, BUT REALLY TO MAKE IT CONVENIENT AND CONDUCIVE TO SHOWCASING OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT A LARGE DRAW AS FAR AS PEOPLE IN THE MOMENT. IT'S REALLY ABOUT THOSE 300 PEOPLE. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FRIDAY NIGHT COMMUNITY CELEBRATION, IN WHICH WE'LL INVITE EVERYONE DOWN TO ENJOY PROBABLY A FOOD TRUCK AND A BAR AND THEN LIVE MUSIC. BUT OTHERWISE IT'S REALLY A SMALL VIP. THE CATALYST FOR HOSTING IT, THOUGH, IS THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN MEDIA ATTENTION TO SHOWCASE THE OUTDOOR RECREATION THAT WE COULDN'T TYPICALLY AFFORD. I THINK THE CVB'S ARE THE HOTELS HAVE ALL DONATED, WHAT, 90 ROOMS? SO YEP, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AT A CERTAIN RATE, SOME OF THEM COMPLIMENTARY, SOME OF THEM DISCOUNTED TO ALL OF THE STATE STAFF, THE DNR, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN [00:25:01] ADDITIONALLY, THE MEDIA, WHICH WE HAVE TO COVER THE ENTIRE COST OF THEIRS, WE ANTICIPATE THIS EVENT JUST IN HARD COST, NOT THE IN-KIND, TO BE OVER $85,000 TO HOST. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE GENEROSITY OF SEVERAL OF OUR HOTELS. I THINK IT'S ABOUT $10,000 EACH WORTH OF ROOMS THEY'VE CONTRIBUTED. THE, THE, THE VISIBILITY WE'RE GOING TO GET AS A COMMUNITY IS LIKE, I DON'T THERE'S LIKE 100, 100 PRESS COMING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY FOR THIS EVERY YEAR. SO THE VISIBILITY WE'RE GOING TO GET AS A COMMUNITY IS PRETTY AMAZING. I THINK THE QUESTION CAME UP, I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT TO ME IN A IN A TEXT, BUT COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN KIND OF HOW IT'S BEING PAID FOR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. YES. SO WE ARE NOT USING THIS AS A FUNDRAISER. WE ARE, HOWEVER, SEEKING SPONSORSHIPS JUST LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY DO, TO COVER THE COSTS OF HOSTING THE EVENT. BECAUSE THIS EXCEEDS OUR TYPICAL EXPENDITURES THROUGH THE YEAR. AND SO WE HAVE SOUGHT OUT PARTNERS, MANY OF IN THE BOATING INDUSTRY, TO POTENTIALLY BE SPONSORS AND HELP US OFFSET THAT ADDITIONAL EXPENSE THIS YEAR, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE MAKING ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE OTHER THAN THAT EXPENDITURE, AND WE ARE NOT PURCHASING OR HIRING AN AGENCY TO DO IT. IN FACT, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. WE ARE SELECTED AS THE HOST ORGANIZATION. SO WE'LL BE DOING ALL THE PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION, AND WE WILL BE LEANING ON OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AS MENTIONED, FOR RESOURCE AND ALLIES. BUT WE'RE REALLY TAKING THE LEAD AND ORGANIZATIONAL EFFORT ON THIS. AND I'M ACTUALLY ON THE COMMITTEE. I'M THE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, AND SHE'S PROBABLY KICKING ME, BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET HIM TO DO THIS FOR LIKE THE LAST SIX, EIGHT YEARS. AND WE FINALLY GOT IT. AND THE ABILITY WE'RE GOING TO GET IS A COMMUNITY IS AMAZING. AND AND THE PEOPLE WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THIS THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN IN A LONG TIME. I MEAN, ALL THE HOTELS ARE GETTING TOGETHER, THE COMMUNITY. NICK DAHL, YOU KNOW, NICK, HE'S GOT THE WALLEYE LEAGUE AND WORKING WITH ALL THE BAIT STORES ARE HELPING US. MY JOB ON THIS IS ORGANIZING THE KIDS FISHING. SO WE'RE USING IT AS AN EDUCATIONAL THING WITH THE SCHOOL KIDS. AND WE'VE GOT TO GET IT PLANNED RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DNR. THEY HAVE THIS PROGRAM CALLED THE FIN PROGRAM AND GETTING THEM COMING OUT TO BRING FISHING RODS FOR THE KIDS AND STRIKER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVER HEARD OF STRIKER. THEY MAKE ALL THE OUTFITS AND STUFF AND THEY BRING OUT GUYS HELP WITH GUIDES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I WENT TO THE COUNCIL LAST COUNCIL MEETING. I TALKED TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT LETTING US USE THE THE APPLE HOUSE GOT THEIR BLESSING TO USE THE APPLE HOUSE FOR INTERPRETATION FOR THE KIDS. WE'RE ALSO HOPING TO USE THAT AS PART OF. ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AFTER MEDIA ROW IN THE MORNING, WHICH STARTS AT 6 A.M. WILL THEY'LL BE INTERVIEWING REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DNR, THE CITY, WHAT HAVE YOU. WE'RE ALSO DOING IT'S CALLED A FAM TOUR FAMILIARIZATION, WHERE WE LOAD THE MEDIA UP AND WE KIND OF TELL STILLWATER STORY. THEY'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO RIDE BIKES ACROSS THE SAINT CROIX CROSSING AND THE LOOP TRAIL. THEY'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO RIDE A TROLLEY. WE'LL TAKE THEM TO THE HERITAGE CENTER BECAUSE THAT'S A REALLY WONDERFUL RESOURCE. WE WANT TO TAKE THEM TO THE APPLE PROPERTY AS A KIND OF SHOWCASE THAT EVENT. BUT THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THIS, WHICH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, AND WE'RE HOPING TO USE LOWELL PARK AND THE APPLE PROPERTIES. OUR TWO MAIN KIND OF SHOWCASE OPPORTUNITIES. AND THE THING TO REMEMBER ON THIS TOO, THE CITY OF STILLWATER, BEING THAT I'M ON THE COMMITTEE, IS A MEMBER OF THE CVB, WHICH I'VE BEEN DOING FOR LIKE THE LAST 6 OR 8 YEARS, IS THAT IT'S A CITY EVENT, TOO. SO THE CITY'S THE CITY'S PARTICIPATING IN THIS. SO I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED ON HOW THIS ALL GOES DOWN, BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S INVITATION ONLY 75 PEOPLE, BUT WE'RE TALKING LIKE SCHOOLCHILDREN AND FISHING AND STUFF THE CITY. THE RESIDENTS GET TO PARTAKE IN THIS. SO FOR THE MOST PART, NO. SO THURSDAY NIGHT THERE'LL BE AN OPENING CEREMONY THAT IS JUST FOR THE BOAT HOSTS AND THE MEDIA, KIND OF INTRODUCTORY, VERY LOW KEY. FRIDAY MORNING IS A MEDIA EVENT WHERE THEY'LL BE INTERVIEWING AND TAKING SHOTS. THEN FRIDAY AFTERNOON, 125 FIFTH GRADERS WILL COME DOWN, AND THEY'LL BE 4 OR 5 STATIONS WHERE THEY'LL HAVE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEY DO THAT IN EVERY COMMUNITY THE EVENT GOES TO. WHILE THE CHILDREN ARE DOING THAT, THE MEDIA THEN GO ON THIS FAM TOUR. AND SO WE'RE GIVING THEM ADDITIONAL STORYLINES BEYOND THE RIVER THAT THEY CAN TELL ABOUT STILLWATER WITH A VERY POSITIVE TONE, WHETHER THAT'S BONDING PROJECTS LIKE THE APPLE PROPERTY OR THE SHODDY MILLS EXPANSION THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT, OR, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY AND HERITAGE AND THE TROLLEY AND UNIQUE EXPERIENCES. IN THE EVENING. WE'RE INVITING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY ON FRIDAY TO COME AND CELEBRATE WITH US. THAT'LL REALLY BE THE ONLY TIME YOU'LL SEE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN VOLUME OF PEOPLE ANYWHERE. OTHERWISE, IT'S REALLY A DEDICATED ABOUT 300 MEDIA AND [00:30:05] VIPS AND MEMBERS OF THE STATE. AND THEN THERE WILL BE THE SCHOOL ELEMENT, THE ONLY PORTION THAT THE COMMUNITY IS ABLE TO REALLY ACTIVELY BE PART OF IS THAT FRIDAY NIGHT, SATURDAY, WE HAVE A LAUNCH CEREMONY LASTS ABOUT 30 TO 40 MINUTES. THEN EVERYBODY HITS THE BOAT AND THEY'RE OUT FISHING AND COLLECTING EXPERIENCES AND IMAGERY. WE COME BACK, WE DO A SHORE LUNCH. THAT AGAIN IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COVERING THE EXPENSE OF. SO IT'S JUST FOR THAT VIP CREDENTIALED CROWD. AND THEN THEY DISPERSE. TYPICALLY WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OUR LIQUOR LICENSE IS THROUGH SATURDAY EVENING. IF WE WANTED TO EXTEND OR PARTNER WITH ANOTHER GROUP TO POTENTIALLY EXTEND THAT AND HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY BASED ACTIVITY, WE COULD AND WE'RE IN CONSIDERATION OF THAT. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE REQUIRED ELEMENTS IN PLACE AND FUNDED BEFORE WE EXPAND THE COMMUNITY COMPONENT. THANK YOU. YES. SO WHEN YOU SAY THERE ARE FIFTH GRADERS COMING, ARE THEY STILL WATER? YES, THEY'LL BE STILL WATER. OR ARE THEY LIKE FROM EVERYWHERE. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE STILLWATER SUPERINTENDENT, AND WE'VE SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THAT THEY BE STUDENTS THAT LIVE WITHIN THE STILLWATER AND OAK PARK HEIGHTS CITY LIMITS. AND SO THEY ARE WORKING TO GET THAT GROUP TOGETHER. AND THEN THEY'LL, OF COURSE, BE PERMISSION FORMS AND ALL OF THAT. SO I'M IN CHARGE OF THE THE YOUTH PART, AND I'M DOING IT WITH, WITH IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED WAY. AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE OTHER QUESTION GIVEN KIND OF THE CURRENT POLITICAL CLIMATE, DO WE FORESEE THERE BEING ANY ISSUES WITH HOSTING? SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE TESTS OR LIKE ANY GREAT CONVERSATION WITH EVEN THEY SAID EVERY YEAR FOR AT LEAST THE PAST 20 YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN PROTESTS, REGARDLESS OF WHICH SIDE IS IN POWER. NOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS YEAR THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE POLITICALLY CHARGED. SO WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE IN OUR PLANNING. EVEN BEFORE THE CURRENT DEMONSTRATIONS, WHEN I INITIALLY SPOKE TO CHAD AND SAID, HERE'S OUR LAYOUT, YOU CAN SEE THERE WHERE ANY POINT WHERE THERE WOULD BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL UP, WE'VE CREATED A BLACK BARRIER OR PED FENCING SO THAT PROTESTERS ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY WELCOME TO TO HAVE THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE DIRECTLY IN A SAFETY ZONE WHERE ANY VIP OR DIGNITARY WOULD BE SPEAKING. SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT. THE STATE ACTUALLY SENDS A SECURITY TEAM ABOUT WE'LL EXPLORE. MINNESOTA COMES ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE WE WALK THROUGH ALL OF THE LOCATIONS AND VENUES. BUT THEY CAME I THINK IT WAS THREE MONTHS AGO AS WELL. FOR AN INITIAL WALK THROUGH. THEY COME BACK, THEY DO ANOTHER WALK THROUGH, AND THEN TWO WEEKS PRIOR, THERE'S A FINAL WALK THROUGH WITH THE GOVERNOR'S SECURITY TEAM SPECIFICALLY. NOT ALL OF THE LOCATIONS ARE PUBLICLY NOTED AS TO WHAT EVENT IS HAPPENING, WHERE SPECIFICALLY FOR SAFETY. AND WE HAVE A PLAN B AND A CONTINGENCY FOR ALL OF THEM. IDEALLY, WE'D LIKE TO BE OUTSIDE AND NEAR THE WATER FOR THE LAUNCH CEREMONY. IF WE HEAR OF A PROTEST, SPECIFICALLY IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF THREAT OR DANGEROUS COMPONENT, WE WILL MOVE INDOOR TO A LOCAL VENUE, WHICH WE HAVE PLANNED AS A BACKUP, BECAUSE SAFETY IS GOING TO BE A PRIORITY, SPECIFICALLY IN LIGHT OF RECENT EVENTS. AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH SECURITY CREWS. I ALSO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE POLICE CHIEF TO WALK OVER AND MAKE SURE HE'S VERY VERSED ON THE ITINERARY AND AGENDA AND WHO WILL BE WHERE, WHEN. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE GOVERNOR OR REPRESENTATIVE FROM HIS OFFICE. YOU'RE NOT GUARANTEED THE ACTUAL GOVERNOR. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SECURITY TEAM AS WELL. SO THAT IS SOMETHING ESPECIALLY THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY COGNIZANT OF. I ALSO SPOKE WITH THEM. WHILE IT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN CALLED THE GOVERNOR'S FISHING OPENER, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO REASSURE PEOPLE THAT IT IS A BIPARTISAN EVENT, AND IT'S REALLY ABOUT MINNESOTA AND CELEBRATING THE OUTDOOR RECREATION. IT'S NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF A CANDIDATE. IT'S NOT SAYING WE'RE HERE OR THERE. IT'S REALLY ALWAYS BEEN DESIGNED TO TALK ABOUT CONSERVATION AND SHOWCASING THAT OUTDOOR RECREATION. AND SO WHAT PART OF THE WHAT PART OF THAT MAP CAN THE PUBLIC GO? SO YOU'LL SEE THE TENT THAT'S ON THERE, THE MAIN TENT. SO THAT IS WHERE WE PLAN TO HOST THAT COMMUNITY CELEBRATION FRIDAY EVENING OKAY. SO THAT TENT WILL GO UP THURSDAY TENTATIVELY THURSDAY MORNING. AND IT'LL BE KIND OF CLOSED OFF THAT EVENING FOR THAT WELCOMING CEREMONY. THEN FRIDAY WE PLAN TO USE IT. IF THERE'S RAIN, WE CAN MOVE THE KIDS UNDER THERE FOR THE FISHING EDUCATION BECAUSE WE WANT TO WRITE ACCESS TO THE WATER. THEN FRIDAY EVENING WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THAT UP TO EVERYONE. AND IN THE ORANGE WHERE IT SAYS COMMUNITY PARTNER TENTS. THAT'S WHERE THOSE NONPROFITS PARTNERING WITH US OR SPONSORS WILL BE ABLE TO SET UP THEIR BOOTHS FOR SHOWCASE DURING THE COMMUNITY CELEBRATION, BECAUSE WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE STILLWATER BUSINESSES AND NONPROFITS AS WELL THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH. AND THAT'LL REALLY BE THE PRIMARY COMPONENT. THIS IS THE SECURED AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YEP. OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO ONE THING WITH THE FAM, YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO THE CULTURAL CENTER. [00:35:07] THAT'S THE ONE. THAT'S THE WASHINGTON COUNTY ONE. YEP. THE WASHINGTON COUNTY HERITAGE CENTER. CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION TO ALSO STOP AT LILY LAKE INTO DENNIS'S POINT? RIGHT. IT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD HIGHLIGHT OF A WATER SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN REHABILITATED THROUGH A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY WORK THAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE, AS WELL AS STATE FUNDING AND STUFF LIKE THAT OVER TIME. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD HIGHLIGHT. IN ADDITION TO ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE ON THE WAY, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TRY TO TIE THAT IN. WE DO HAVE A LIMITED TIME FRAME AND ULTIMATELY THE DNR AND EXPLORE MINNESOTA WILL APPROVE OUR SCHEDULED EVENTS. LAST YEAR. HOW THEY DID IT IN CROSS LAKE, I WENT UP TO KIND OF JUST OBSERVE AND REFLECT AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT. YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME YOU HOST AN EVENT, YOU LEARN AND YOU GROW FROM IT. BUT IN 78 YEARS, WE'VE NEVER HAD IT. SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT. SO I WENT UP THERE TO KIND OF LEARN FROM THEM. AND WHAT THEY DID WAS IT WAS KIND OF A CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE. THEY DID BLOCKED TIMES. SO YOU HAD PEOPLE, BUT YOU DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THEM CONTAINED FOR THAT ENTIRE DURATION. AND THEY COULD KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH BLOCKS THEY WANTED TO GO TO. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE BUSY THE ENTIRE TIME AND SAY, YOU HAVE TO TAKE A MINIMUM OF THREE BLOCKS, CHOOSE WHAT ORDER, BUT IF WE'RE HOPPING THEM ON THE TROLLEY, THE GOAL IS TO, WHILE THEY'RE ON THE TROLLEY AND THEN GO UP THERE, THAT'LL BE ONE BLOCK. AND THAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE, I THINK, PIT STOP OF A, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE ABLE TO CONDENSE THAT, THAT A GREAT, GREAT STORY, COMMUNITY BASED WHOLE THING. OKAY. GREAT PLAN. WHAT'S THE BACKUP PLAN IF IT FLOODS. SO IF IT FLOODS IT'LL IT'LL JUST BE A NOTE ON THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE TO HAVE WE HAVE TO HAVE. THE ONLY THING THAT THAT REALLY CHANGES IS OUR POINTS OF ACCESS TO THE WATER. RIGHT. BECAUSE EVEN WHEN IT'S A NO WAKE ZONE, THEY'VE NEVER RESTRICTED FISHING. SO ALL THAT DOES IS CHANGE WHERE OUR BOATERS ARE GETTING ON THE WATER, AND WE'RE DISPERSED BETWEEN THE BOOM SITE. ANDERSON WINDOWS HAS OFFERED IT UP, XCEL ENERGY HAS OFFERED UP THEIR SPOT, AND THEN THE NEW SPOT IN OAK PARK HEIGHTS WOULD BE THE MAIN. BUT SOME OF OUR BOATERS ARE MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN SPOT ON THE WISCONSIN SIDE. THEY MIGHT PREFER OR LIVE ON THE WATER THEMSELVES. SO WE DO HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS. SO ALL OF THE TENTS AND ALL THIS STUFF WOULD JUST MOVE TO ONE OF THOSE OTHER LOCATIONS. NO. IF I THOUGHT YOU MEANT FOR WATER ACCESS FOR THE BOATS I'M TALKING ABOUT, YOU HAVE HIGH WATER. WHAT WE COULD DO IS MOVE THAT TENT RIGHT UP ONTO THE CEMENT THERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF WE BACKED IT UP, YOU KNOW, 50 YARDS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, IF THERE'S A FLOOD, THIS WHOLE AREA IS A FLOOD WALL. WE HAVE TO WE ARE PUTTING THOSE PLANS TOGETHER. GEOLOGISTS WILL ALL BE. THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL IS THE WATER LEVEL. NOW LAST YEAR KNOCK ON LAMINATE WOOD. BUT THEY WERE PHENOMENAL. AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IDEAL. IN FACT, LAST YEAR WAS LIKE 70 DEGREES. IT WAS GORGEOUS THAT WEEKEND IN MAY. THAT'S THE ONE ELEMENT THAT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT. AND WE WOULD JUST, IN THEORY, WORK WITH THE CITY WHO SAID THAT THEY'D BE FLEXIBLE WITH US SHOULD WE NEED TO ALTER AND JUST BACK IT UP TO THE CEMENT. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WOULD MEAN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TENT, WHICH WOULD INCREASE OUR COSTS SUBSTANTIALLY BECAUSE IT WOULD NEED TO BE NOT STAKED, BUT THE POLE TYPE. AND SO THEY SAID THAT THAT WOULD INCREASE OUR COSTS, BUT WE COULD STILL MAKE IT ALL WORK WITH THAT. I MEAN, THE WHOLE FLOOD PART OF THE RIVER ANYHOW, IS A STORY TO BE TOLD ANYHOW, IN TERMS OF HOW IT FLOODS NOW, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST SPRING FLOODS ANYMORE. RIGHT? THE OTHER YEAR IT WAS JULY. IT WAS STILL REALLY HIGH, WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN. WE HAVE HEARD RUMOR THAT THE LOCK AND DAM FURTHER DOWN, THAT IT SEEMS THEY'RE OPENING IT A LITTLE WIDER TO LET MORE THROUGH. I'VE ASKED SOMEONE AT THE DNR TO INVESTIGATE IF THERE'S ANY TRUTH TO THAT, BECAUSE THEY WERE SUSPICIOUS THAT THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T FLOOD LAST YEAR. I DON'T KNOW, SNOWPACK AND ALL THAT STUFF TOO. YEAH, IT COMES DOWN. YEAH, I'M ACTUALLY WORKING. I'M FROM NORTH DAKOTA, SO THE RED RIVER FLOWS NORTH. IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME THERE. MY GRANDDAUGHTER PLAYS HOCKEY WITH A GUY, ONE OF THE GUYS THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THE DAM DOWN IN RED WING, AND HE SAID HE'D WORK WITH US ON, ON ALL THE PROJECTIONS OF WHAT THE WATER IS GOING TO BE. AND HE HAS ALL THE LATEST FROM ALL THEIR HYDROLOGISTS AND ALL THAT. RIGHT. YEAH. I HAVE A I HAVE A NUMBER ONE. THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THE EVENT. I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO BRING THIS TYPE OF EVENT TO STILLWATER AND BRING AWARENESS. I'M SURPRISED MIKE WANTS TO GIVE AWAY HIS FISHING SPOTS, BUT THAT'S AWESOME. AND HOW GIVING YOU ARE. HIS BOAT WON'T CATCH A FISH. HE'LL RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. HE'LL BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, RIGHT. HE WON'T SHOW HIM. YEAH, BUT I GUESS IT'S BEEN HIM AROUND THREE TIMES SO THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. YEAH. SCUBA DIVERS UNDERNEATH HOOKING THEM. YEAH. I GUESS I HAVE ONE MINOR PROCESS THING. AND THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THIS REQUEST, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE WAIVER OF FEES BECAUSE COUNCIL DOES SET FEES FOR THE PARK. SO LIKE LET'S JUST SAY IT'S A DIFFERENT REQUEST COMING TO US. AND WE DON'T KNOW LIKE THE BACKGROUND OF A GROUP AND HOW YOU'RE INTERACTING. LIKE, IS IT OKAY FOR US TO APPROVE OF THE EVENT WITH, WITH COUNCIL LEAVING IT UP TO WAIVER OF FEES? BECAUSE I DEFINITELY SEE THE BENEFIT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT AS LIKE KIND OF A PROCESS QUESTION, BECAUSE IN THE REQUEST BEFORE US TONIGHT, [00:40:01] IT WAS ALSO WAIVER OF FEES. SO WHEN I ASKED JOE ABOUT THAT, HE SAID, THAT'S REALLY AT YOUR DISCRETION BASED ON WHAT YOU KNOW OF THE EVENT. SO I GUESS YOU COULD ALWAYS ASK THEM TO COME AND KIND OF PITCH THEIR CASE. FOR US, THIS IS A ONE OFF. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ANNUALLY OR REOCCURRING, AND WE SUPPORT EVERY OTHER EVENT IN THE COMMUNITY TO THE TUNE OF $95,000 THIS YEAR. AND PLUS WE ACTUALLY FUND SOME CITY INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THE NEW BANNER ARMS. WE PAID 20,000 FOR THOSE IN ANOTHER 9000 FOR BANNERS. SO WE FEEL THAT WE'RE VERY GOOD COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND PUT OUT COLD, HARD CASH FOR THOSE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY REDUCE A BURDEN FOR US FOR THIS ONE TIME EVENT. AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION IS MORE ON THE PROCESS, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND TO THAT AS WELL. YEAH, NO, IT SOUNDS GOOD. AND AND YOURS IS RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. SO YOU'RE JUST RECOMMENDING YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE IT. GUARANTEED THE FUNDS OR WAIVING THE FEES. BUT BEING THAT WE'RE PARTNERS IN THIS, THAT'S WHY IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN I THINK WHAT DAN'S TRYING TO ASK, LIKE, IS IT BEST THAT WE JUST APPROVE THE EVENT AND LEAVE, THAT YOU CAN RECOMMEND IT? YOU CAN RECOMMEND IT. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. I'M JUST THINKING IT HAS TO COME TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S A NEW EVENT. SO YOU NEED TO APPROVE A NEW EVENT THAT'S IN OUR POLICY OKAY. AND THEN THE WAIVING THE FEES IS THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. BUT I THINK THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION OKAY. DOES THAT HELP YOU AT ALL? DAN I'D THROW A MOTION OUT THERE IF I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE GOVERNOR'S FISHING OPENER EVENT. WITH COUNCIL'S DISCRETION ON FEES. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THIS IS, LIKE, REALLY MINOR, BUT THE THE PERMIT SAYS 200 MAX FOR PEOPLE. AND I THINK YOU SAID 300 AND MAYBE MORE FRIDAY NIGHTS. AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN FOR THE PARK. IT SAYS 200 MAX ESTIMATED ATTENDANCE. SO OKAY. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY WHEN I FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION. SO WE HAD TO FILL THAT OUT AND SUBMIT OUR APPLICATION TO THE STATE. LAST I THINK IT WAS MARCH AND THEY DIDN'T ANNOUNCE UNTIL OCTOBER, BUT BY THEN I'D ALREADY TURNED IN MY NOTICE AND THE APPLICATION AND TYPICALLY THE EVENT, THEY DO SAY 200. NOW, IN TALKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE, BOTH MEDIA AND OTHER STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS, BECAUSE IT'S NEVER BEEN ON THE SAINT CROIX BECAUSE OF OUR PROXIMITY TO THE METRO VERSUS, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO COMMUTE ALL THE WAY UP TO CROSS LAKE, THEY'VE SENSED A LOT MORE EXCITEMENT, AND THEY'RE ANTICIPATING A MUCH GREATER PULL, BOTH FROM MEDIA AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND SO THEY'VE MODIFIED THEIR NUMBERS TO INCREASE TO REFLECT THAT EXCITEMENT. AND IF THAT'S WHETHER I HAVE TO FILL OUT A NEW FORM OR THAT CAN JUST BE MODIFIED ON THE EXISTING, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT ALTERATION. AND I ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW THE COMMUNITY CELEBRATION COMPONENT WOULD MODIFY THAT. BEING THAT, YOU KNOW, A FRACTION OF, WE HAVE NO IDEA. I MEAN, IF THE COMMUNITIES ARE GOING TO SHOW UP, THAT PART DOESN'T CHANGE TOO MUCH. AS FAR AS THE APP, I CAN JUST MAKE THOSE NOTED, BUT IT DOES AFFECT THE ASK OF THE TEMPORARY LIQUOR LICENSE, BECAUSE IF YOU GET OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, IT COSTS MORE. SO THAT'S ALL IT WOULD REALLY AFFECT. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE LEVEL OF THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE WAIVER. SO AND WE'VE TRIED TO KIND OF CALCULATE I THINK A BIG THING WILL BE FOR THE COMMUNITY CELEBRATION. WHAT IS THE WEATHER AND WHAT IS THE BAND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SECURE. YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE KIND OF WE'VE GOT SOME FEELERS OUT THERE. BUT AGAIN, THAT BUDGET IS KIND OF WE'RE WAITING THE SPONSORS TO DETERMINE THE BUDGET, THE VENUE THE BAND MIGHT INFLUENCE, SPONSOR. IT'S, YOU KNOW, EGG AND CHICKEN A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR? MY ONLY THING ABOUT THE FEE PART IS ABOUT IT BEING A ONE TIME THING. LIKE, TO ME, THAT'S NOT THE STRONGEST ARGUMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF ONE TIME THINGS THAT COME EVERY SO OFTEN. SO IN OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAN MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT THEY'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEY'VE DONE IT. AND I KNOW YOU SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY IN DIFFERENT WAYS TO. SO I'M NOT ENTIRELY CONVINCED ABOUT THE WAIVER PART OF THAT BECAUSE OF THAT ONE TIME ASPECT OF IT. AND ALSO THEN WE DO IT NOW OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME ONE TIME, OH, WE'RE JUST HAVING ONE TIME EVENT. WE DON'T NEED TO PAY THE FEES IN THAT PRECEDENT THAT IT MIGHT SET. IT'S PROBABLY BETTER REASONS TO DO IT. BESIDES THE ONE TIME. YEAH. DO LIKE WOULD THAT BE LIKE YOUR REQUEST THAT YOU SAID LEAVING THAT PART OF IT UP TO COUNCIL? YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT, LIKE, SETTING PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE GROUPS. SO I WAS ON THE SAME LENGTH. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S LIKE COUNCIL KNOWS THAT DISCUSSION. ADMINISTRATION LIKE AS LONG AS WE'RE OUT OF THAT I DON'T KNOW. AND IF IT'S IF YOU'RE A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT BEING A ONE TIME EVENT, I WOULD LEAN ON THE EDUCATIONAL ASPECT TO THAT. WE'RE EDUCATING 125 FIFTH GRADERS ON THAT CONSERVATION AND THE FISHING OPPORTUNITY, AND ALSO THE MEDIA ON THE EFFORTS OF THE CITY AND THE EXPOSURE TO PROJECTS LIKE THE IPL PROPERTY AND OTHER ENDEAVORS THAT YOU GUYS ARE PART OF. YOUR MOTION WAS TO APPROVE IT AND THEN LEAVE THE THE WEAVING TO THE CITY COUNCIL, CORRECT. I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS THIS PROCESS [00:45:05] PROCEEDS OR IF ANYONE WANTS TO GET ENGAGED IN ANY COMPONENT OF THAT, WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR BOAT HOSTS. WE NEED, I THINK, 65 BOATS AND ANOTHER 8 TO 10 PONTOONS AVAILABLE. WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO HELP BARTEND. WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO BE A WELCOMING FACE AT THE RECEPTION TABLE AND DO STUFF, WELCOME BAGS AND TO ASSIST PEOPLE ON AND OFF THE BOATS WITH THEIR GEAR. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF ANY OF THOSE PROCESSES, THESE TWO GENTLEMEN HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU THERE. AND OTHERWISE, WE JUST HOPE TO SEE YOU AT THE COMMUNITY CELEBRATION. THANKS. YES. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY. WHAT WAS THAT? I MIGHT LET ME CHECK IF I WAS SMART ENOUGH TO ADD THEM TO THIS PURSE. OKAY. IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY COOL EVENT. I MEAN, CONTEST WITH IT TOO. OKAY. GOOD THING YOU WON THAT. THAT WOULD BE NEXT LEVEL. YEAH, BUT I'M DOING THAT FISHING CONTEST FOR THE UNITED WAY. I'M ORGANIZING THAT TOO. YEAH. YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH. I DID NOT PUT ANY IN THIS PURSE, BUT IT'S PRESIDENT AT DISCOVER STILLWATER.COM. OH, PERFECT. OKAY, I CAN REMEMBER THAT. YEAH, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE ONE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME I APPRECIATE IT. GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF COMMERCE. OKAY. DO WE WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE OR. WHO WERE YOU WITH? I'M GOING TO BUST IN HERE. DO WE WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE? OR. SOMEONE HAD ASKED TO LOOK AT ALL THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE. THAT'S WHY I GAVE YOU THIS PRINT OUT HERE. BASICALLY LAID THEM ALL OUT. THERE WERE SOME LIKE LAST YEAR, WE ACTUALLY APPROVED, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE MIXED STERLING THING. AND THEN THEY ENDED UP CANCELING BECAUSE OF WEATHER. AND IT WAS LIKE 36 DEGREES OUT THAT DAY, LIKE YOU COULDN'T ASK FOR BETTER WEATHER, BUT THEY STILL THOUGHT IT WAS TOO COLD. SO LIKE, I DIDN'T PUT LIKE THINGS I DIDN'T THINK WERE COMING BACK. THESE WERE ALL THE ONES THAT HAD REACHED OUT. THESE ARE THE ONES WE DID LAST YEAR. ANYTHING IN RED IS NEW ONES OR CHANGES LIKE DYING HERE. DANCE HERE WAS PUSHING THEIR DATE BACK A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE DID. WE ARE WORKING WITH RIDE TO END ALS TO PUSH THEIR BACK DATE BACK TO KIND OF HELP WITH THE BIKE RALLY. SO. BUT OTHER THAN THAT I HAVE THEM ALL ON THERE AND YOU CAN SEE THE TYPES I HAVE, THE LOCATIONS OUR STAFF IS ASKING ME TO KIND OF PUT THIS TOGETHER AND THEN KIND OF SAY, WHAT KIND OF PARKING LOTS IT'LL AFFECT STUFF LIKE THAT TO BE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A DOWNTOWN EVENT. SO THEN I CAN BE A LITTLE THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, SHARE THAT INFORMATION A LITTLE MORE. SO I'M GOING TO TURN THIS INTO MORE, YOU KNOW, DETAILED TYPE OF A LIST. BUT WE HAVE THIS AND I CAN ALWAYS UPDATE YOU WITH IT IF YOU'RE QUESTIONING. BUT THAT'S JUST SHOWING YOU, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE YEARS THE ONES WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM ARE REALLY SMALL. RIGHT. LIKE YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A IS THIS LIVE FOR THE PUBLIC ANYWHERE. HERE WE HAVE IT ON OUR CAMPAIGN. WE HAVE IT ON OUR CALENDAR. I MEAN, IT'S ON THE CALENDAR ONCE ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED, THEY GO ON THE CALENDAR ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. SO YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S A LIST. YOU I HAVE A I HAVE A LIKE A MARKER BOARD AND I HAVE THEM EACH MONTH ON THERE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THINGS ARE DUE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND OUR IT PERSON DOESN'T LIKE IT TOO MUCH BECAUSE HE'S LIKE, YOU CAN DO THAT ON A SPREADSHEET. WELL, I NEED TO SEE IT EVERY DAY BECAUSE YEAH, IT'S A LOT TO MANAGE. BUT LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THEM ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, LITTLE EVENTS. BUT IT'S QUITE THE SEE IT THOUGH. YEAH. IT'S GOOD TO SEE. SO I HOPE THAT HELPS YOU A LITTLE BIT. SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING. YOU KNOW BEFORE YOU APPROVE THESE NEW ONES. BUT. THEY DO. I WAS LOOKING THROUGH OLD LISTS. IT JUST KIND OF COMES AND GOES. WE STAY UNDER. IT'S LIKE AROUND 40. I THINK WE STAY UNDER THAT AMOUNT. IT SEEMS LIKE NO MATTER. JUST NEW ONES GO, YOU KNOW, SO, SO MANY WEEKENDS. IT'S TRUE. DO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO THE NEXT NEW ONE THAT WE HAVE HERE? SURE. SO THE NEXT ONE IS THIS LUMBER [5. Lumberstock - New Event] STOCK. LUMBER STOCK IS BASICALLY LIKE A BATTLE OF THE BANDS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. THEY DID DO IT LAST YEAR. THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IT AS JUST LIKE A PARK RESERVATION. YOU KNOW, THEY WERE RENTING PIONEER PARK IS WHAT IT WAS. WELL, ONCE THEY SAW THAT WAS. BEING BUILT AND COULDN'T USE THAT SPACE, WE I WAS ASKED BY THE MAYOR TO FIND HIM A SPACE. SO WE FOUND HIM DOWN ON THE PLAZA LAST YEAR. FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE EVENT FOR THEM, BUT THEY ARE ANTICIPATING IT BEING MORE THAN THE 250 PEOPLE NOW. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE TRYING TO TURN IT INTO AN ACTUAL EVENT VERSUS JUST, YOU KNOW, A PARK RESERVATION WHERE THEY COULD USE THE BANDSHELL AND DO THE SAME THING UNDER, YOU KNOW, THEIR RIGHTS TO DO THAT. SO BUT [00:50:02] BECAUSE IT'S OVER, THE 250 PERSON THRESHOLD, WE HAVE TO CLASSIFY IT AS AN EVENT. THEY CAN STILL DO IT AT THE BANDSHELL. THEY COULD. THEY HAD SUCH A GREAT TIME DOWN ON THE PLAZA. THEY THEY LOVED THAT AREA AND WOULD RATHER PREFER TO HOST IT THERE. THEY USE THE ALCHEMY, SOUND AND LIGHTING THAT DOES LIKE ALL OUR BIG EVENTS. SO THEY THEY GET THE THEY DO A NICE JOB, YOU KNOW, PRODUCING IT. SO I MEAN, I KNOW THE BANDSHELL IS THERE AND YOU HEAR ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOISE AND STUFF. WELL, I THINK THE PEOPLE UP THERE MIGHT BE JUST AS DISCOURAGED WITH SOUND TOO, BECAUSE IT'S I MEAN, IT IS A LOUDER EVENT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PLAYING I MEAN, THEY'RE HIGH SCHOOL BANDS, RIGHT? AND SOME ARE JUST NOISE BANDS. BUT I MEAN, I'M JUST I'M FINE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. I MEAN, SO TRASH CANS AND A LOT OF VERY TALENTED. THERE WAS REALLY GOOD ONES. I THINK THE WORLD SNOW WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY, THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THE PEOPLE THAT WON THE EVENT TO PLAY IN THE TENT. I'M NOT I DON'T THINK IT HAPPENED. BUT I MEAN. I THINK I DID HAVE A QUESTION OF TIME. THE EVENT GOES TILL TEN. I DON'T THINK THEY LASTED TILL TEN LAST YEAR. I WANT TO SAY THEY'RE DONE LIKE 845. BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY IF THEY HAD MORE BANDS, THEY WOULDN'T. THEY WON'T LAST THAT WHOLE TIME. SO IS YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE TUESDAY, IT'S ON THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL IS WHEN THEY DID IT. I HAPPENED TO BE A TUESDAY. I THINK LAST YEAR IT MUST BE A TUESDAY AGAIN THIS YEAR. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IF YOU HAD CONCERNS ON THE TIME IF THERE WERE I MEAN WE OBVIOUSLY CAN ASK THEM TO PUSH IT BACK EARLIER A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEIR REQUEST WAS FROM 5 TO 10 TO HAVE MUSIC COME ON. AND MY THOUGHT IS HOW HOW LOUD IS IT THERE? ANYWAYS, ON TUESDAY NIGHT I THINK IT'S PRETTY QUIET THOUGH, RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH, ESPECIALLY IT'S EVERYBODY ELSE MAY. RIGHT. SAY JULY I WOULD SAY ONLY PLACE I ONLY GET ONLY COMPLAINTS. IS THE SOUND DOWNTOWN GOING UP TO THE HOUSES? BUT NOT AT PIONEER PARK? NO, I GET THOSE TOO. YOU CAN GET THOSE TOO. BUT THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY COULDN'T USE THE STAGE INSTEAD OF THE PLAZA. OKAY. CAN WE PUSH THEM THROUGH THE STAGE? YOU KNOW, JUST TO. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE GOT IT FIXED FOR. SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT THE POWER IN THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I DEFINITELY ASK THEM IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT YOU RECOMMEND. I COULD I THINK THEY WILL BE WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO IS THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM DOWNTOWN OR WE JUST WANT THEM? I MEAN, BECAUSE I COULD SEE FROM THEIR STANDPOINT, YOU GOT THE ICE CREAM THERE, YOU GOT THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN THING GOING. I COULD TOTALLY SEE WHY THEY'D RATHER BE DOWNTOWN. SO UNLESS WE HAD, LIKE A GOOD REASON FOR NOT WANTING THEM THERE, I CAN'T. I'M, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER LAST YEAR WHY WE COULDN'T USE THE STAGE AT THAT TIME. IT'S STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? WHAT? SUBSTANTIAL CONSTRUCTION. RIGHT. NO STAGE. STAGE DOWN IN LOWELL, AROUND THE PLAZA LAST YEAR. OH, DIFFERENT. I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. PIONEER. YEAH, YEAH. MAY 22ND IS A FRIDAY. IS IT A FRIDAY? OKAY. BECAUSE THEY STARTED SCHOOL EARLIER THIS YEAR. THAT'S RIGHT. SO LAST YEAR IT WAS A TUESDAY AND NOW IT'S A FRIDAY. THAT'S A GOOD THING TO KNOW. THANKS FOR LOOKING THAT UP. MIKE. YOU'VE HAD EXPERIENCE BRINGING LEONARD SKINNER HERE. WHAT'S WHICH ONE A PIONEER OR DOWNTOWN FROM NOISE PERSPECTIVE OTHER THAN LIMITING TIME, I THINK YOU'RE BETTER OFF DOWNTOWN. PIONEER PARK. YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. PLUS, IF YOU BRING OUT THAT MANY KIDS, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK? SURE. YEAH. AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF BANDS CIRCLING IN, RIGHT? IT'S ALWAYS FUN HAVING THEIR EQUIPMENT. I ALWAYS I WANTED TO HAVE LIKE A WEDNESDAY NIGHT MUSIC THING DOWNTOWN ALL SUMMER LONG. I MEAN, TOTALLY, WHY NOT? IT MAKES IT NICE. IT'S NEVER A BUMMER TO GO DOWN. AND YEAH, I THINK THE MUSIC PLAYS. I THINK THE TIME OF DAY MAKES SENSE DOWN THERE VERSUS UP. SO YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. WHAT? WHAT? AND JUST REMIND ME WHAT IS OUR NOISE ORDINANCE LIKE. WHEN IS LIKE THE PM. SO IT'S YEAH OKAY. OKAY. SORRY. JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. SECOND THE MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. DO ORDER. SO I THINK Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE [6. Stillwater Mountain Bike Team - Brown’s Creek Usage Extension] TO LOOK AT IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE OLD CONTRACT, THIS IS THE NEW ONE. BUT THE MOUNTAIN BIKING IS LOOKING FOR PERMISSION TO USE THE BROWN'S CREEK TRAIL SYSTEM. IT SOUNDS [00:55:03] LIKE THEY ONLY USE IT TWO DAYS OF THE WEEK BETWEEN TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY. I THINK MAYBE THEIR SCHEDULES MIGHT VARY. I DON'T KNOW WHY. IT'S, YOU KNOW, TWO OUT OF THE THREE DAYS, BUT FROM 4 TO 6 P.M. FOR THAT TWO MONTH PERIOD, THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT THE LAST FIVE YEARS. THEY HAD A CONTRACT THROUGH COUNCIL BEFORE. THEY'RE JUST ASKING TO EXTEND IT ANOTHER FIVE YEARS. AND THIS IS JUST THE NORTH SIDE, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PAVED TRAIL. RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. YEAH, YEAH. NOT A PROBLEM. I SAY THEY CAME HERE. AND HOW ARE THEY HOLDING UP. WHAT'S THAT. HOW ARE THE TRAILS HOLDING UP TO WHERE THEY ARE. YEAH. YOU WOULDN'T KNOW. YOU WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T NOTICE. REALLY. YEAH. IT'S I MEAN, IT'S A NICE PLACE I'VE BEEN I'VE WALKED THAT AREA, SO. YEAH, I KNOW IT. LIKE, I THINK WE HAD SOMEONE A COMPLAINT ONCE BEFORE, MAYBE A YEAR AGO OR SO, BUT IT WASN'T ABOUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS ABOUT THAT GROUP. I THINK IT WAS JUST BIKES IN GENERAL OUT THERE. BIKE ON GATEWAY. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT. YEAH, RIGHT. SO I HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS GROUP AT ALL. I MEAN, I LIKE ON THE FORM, I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, ANY YEAR WE SAW A WHOLE BUNCH OF DAMAGE. THEN WE CAN JUST SAY, NO, THAT WON'T WORK ANYMORE. SO I LIKE THAT. YEAH, PART OF IT. WE KEPT THEM IN ONE AREA TOO, AND WE ASKED THEM TO STAY IN ONE AREA BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD PEOPLE GOING TO SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO, BUT IT WASN'T THEM. THAT'S FOR WHAT I KNOW. THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN VERY RESPECTFUL. FOR WHAT? THEY CAME OUT TO LAKE ELMO PARK RESERVE FOR YEARS. YEAH. AND THEY'RE VERY RESPECTFUL GROUP. I DON'T THINK IT'S THEM THAT WOULD BE THE PROBLEM WOULD BE THE OKAY, THE KIDS COME BACK WOULD BE THE PROBLEM. BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S REALLY OUT IN THE OPEN TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S HIDDEN WHERE THEY WOULD WANT TO PARTY OUT THERE, THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD PLACE. SO IS IT JUST A LIABILITY THING THAT THEY NEED THIS CONTRACT OR. BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU THINK IT'D BE OPEN LIKE NO TO THAT. WE JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO'S OUT THERE DOING STUFF LIKE THAT WAS A BIG GROUP LIKE THAT. YEAH, IT'S A BIG GROUP. BIGGER GROUP. I DON'T THINK IT'S EVEN CLASSIFIED AS A BIKE TRAIL. IS IT? NO. RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE OTHER REASON. TRAILS, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IT'S NOT CLASSIFIED AS A BIKE TRAIL. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING PERMISSION TO USE IT AS SUCH. JUST SO I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT WHEN WE GET SIGNAGE OUT THERE. YEAH. MANIFEST. RIGHT. EXACTLY. WHEN WE GET SIGNAGE. STILL HAVE A SAVED EMAILS ABOUT THE SIGNAGE. I MEAN, I THINK PART OF IT IS JUST THAT I THINK I'VE HEARD PEOPLE BEFORE, LIKE PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING THOSE SHOWS AND THEY JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE PERMISSION TO DO THAT. AND SO LIKE IF WE DO HAVE SIGNAGE OUT THERE, WE COULD AT LEAST PUT UP TEMPORARY SIGNAGE FOR THOSE TWO MONTHS. YES, THAT'S FOR SURE. THESE HOURS. YEP. THEY HAVE PERMISSION AND WE COULD EVEN. YEAH FOR SURE. I COULD EVEN PUT THE THIS RESOLUTION NUMBER WHATEVER ON IT. RIGHT. LIKE JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW IT IS LEGIT AND THEY'RE OUT THERE. I THOUGHT WE I THOUGHT WE ALLOWED THEM TO HAVE IT ON. IT WAS WAS PERMITTED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACKS, BUT IT WASN'T PERMITTED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE TRACKS, I THINK. YEAH, THERE'S THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO STAY ON THE SOUTH, THE, THE NORTH SIDE. YEAH, YEAH, I WAS WONDERING, I WASN'T GONNA ASK, BUT. YEAH, WE CAN EASILY SIGN IT. IS THERE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. WE UNDER THIS MOTION? YEAH. DO [7. Staff Updates (no packet materials)] YOU WANT TO GO? I'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT. DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES OR. YOU GO FIRST. WELL, WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING FOR THE 4TH OF JULY, SO WE'RE ADDING TO THE FIREWORKS DISPLAY THIS YEAR. THIS IS A 250TH YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE UNITED STATES. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF FIREWORKS THIS YEAR. AND I'M TRYING TO WORK ON I'M TRYING TO WORK ON A JETS AGAIN. IF I CAN GET THE JETS BACK LIKE WE USED TO GET. AND THAT MADE IT SPECIAL FOR PEOPLE, WE SHOULD HAVE A MUSIC COMMITTEE. I THINK, THOUGH, WE SHOULD. WE NEED BETTER MUSIC COMMITTEE. I DON'T BACK LYNYRD SKYNYRD, THOSE DRONES THAT ALSO DO STUFF, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I THOUGHT FOR ENVIRONMENTALLY WE COULD COST WE COULD FIGURE OUT A DRONE SHOW. WE SHOULD DO THE THING WHERE, LIKE, YOU HAVE TO, LIKE, TURN YOUR RADIO TO A SPECIFIC STATION. AND THEN WE HAD THAT AND WE LOST OUR RADIO STATION. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN THE ONE I HAVE ONE ON OUR SPOTIFY, SPOTIFY HAS THAT MUSIC DO A STILLWATER FIREWORKS SPOTIFY PLAYLIST. LIKE IT, GO AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, LIKE SPOTIFY CHAT. LIKE, I GUESS I GET A CD, THEY ALWAYS GIVE ME A CD AND I GIVE THAT TO THE LIBRARY FOR THE LIGHT TO LIGHT [01:00:03] THE SPARK OR WHATEVER IT IS. YEAH, LIKE I SAID, JUST WHENEVER AT THIS TIME I CALLED HIM ON THE PHONE, SAID, ALL RIGHT, HIT IT. AND MUSIC APPEARED. THEY'D HAVE MUSIC BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS THAT WAS ALWAYS ONE OF THE NICEST PART, HAVING THE MUSIC FOR EVERYBODY. YOU SHOULD CHECK ON THAT AGAIN. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BUY A RECEIVER AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BROADCAST THAT PART BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE. THE RADIO STATION WAS GREAT. THEY HOOKED RIGHT IN TO THE MUSIC OFF THE COUNCIL AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE HAD A FULL LIKE, YOU SHOULD WORK WITH HIM ON SPOTIFY. YEAH, TECH. NO, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING YOU'RE WORKING WITH HIM BECAUSE HE'S GOT THE MASTER LIST. LIKE HE'S THE MUSIC MAN. THERE WE GO. COULD YOU JUST BUY A SLOT ON? I MAKE A MOTION. THE MAJOR RADIO STATIONS ACTUALLY, WG OUT OF. WAS OUT OF SAINT CROIX DOWN THERE. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IT A COUPLE YEARS AGO FOR US. AND THEN THE DAY OF IT, HE PULLED OUT ON US. OH, JEEZ. LIKE THE CURRENT DO IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OH, WHAT ABOUT THE LIKE, THE FOOTBALL GAMES OR LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS? WHAT DO THEY DO NOW WHEN IT COMES? IT'S ALL THROUGH THE VALLEY ACCESS TV. GOOD POINT THOUGH. THAT'S BETTER. NOW WE GOT TIME TO WEBCAST PRETTY EASILY AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO ALL THIS STUFF. I'M COMPUTER ILLITERATE. I HAVE A HARD ENOUGH TIME WITH MY HARD ENOUGH TIME WITH MY PHONE. GOT SOME HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT WILL BE ABLE TO OKAY SOME EIGHT YEAR OLD. I'M A DUMMY. NO. I GIVE MY PHONE TO MY DAUGHTER AV TEAM. IT'S PROBABLY STILLWATER HIGH SCHOOL RADIO STATION. ANY MORE UPDATES FROM, YOU KNOW, APPLE PROPERTY IS THE HOUSE IS DONE AND WE'RE WORKING. WE'RE WORKING ON HE'S GETTING THE CONTRACTS PUT TOGETHER FOR ALL THE LANDSCAPING AND ALL THAT. I ACTUALLY TOOK THE FORMER RESIDENT OR THE WE BOUGHT IT FROM DOWN THERE TO LOOK AT THE HOUSE THE OTHER DAY, AND SHE WAS PRETTY IMPRESSED. AND THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU, I THOUGHT WAS REALLY COOL, AND I'M WORK, I'M WORKING ON IT WITH THE DNR OR I'M GOING TO WORK ON IT. I TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT A LITTLE STREAM RIGHT ALONG THE ROAD THERE WHERE YOU COME IN. AND THE POND. THE POND IS THAT'S ALL SPRING WATER. AND THAT ALONG THE DITCH THERE. THAT'S ALL SPRING WATER. HE HAD A LICENSE TO RAISE TROUT. WOW. IT WAS A TROUT FARM. SO HE PUT HIS FRY IN THAT LITTLE STREAM ALONG THE ROAD THERE. AND WHEN THEY GOT BIGGER, HE MOVED THEM TO THE POND. OH, SWEET. SO HE DECIDED IF WE COULD PULL THAT OFF AND MAKE IT A CHILD EDUCATION THING FOR KIDS. AND THEN THEY GO DOWN THERE AND CATCH TROUT OR WHATEVER. I THINK THAT'D BE REALLY FUN. HAVE YOU BEEN THE STAR? THE STAR PRAIRIE? YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S A THAT WAS A THAT'S A COOL PLACE. I THINK THAT'D BE REALLY COOL. BUT THE HOUSE IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD. AND THEY'RE DOING THE DESIGNS RIGHT NOW ON THE SHODDY MILL. OKAY. THAT STARTED ALREADY. THE DESIGN FOR THE DOCK IS COMING. SO HOPEFULLY ALL THIS STUFF IS GOING TO BE THIS NEXT SUMMER. SEAN DID WANT ME TO MENTION THAT MAYBE WHEN IT GETS A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE SPRING HERE THAT WE'LL SCHEDULE SOMETHING TO GO DOWN THERE AND LOOK AT. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. YEAH. ANY ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES. I DO HAVE SOME STUFF. YEP. SO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN. I GOT AN UPDATE HERE FROM SARAH. SO. OUR COMMITTEE, THE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE, SHE'S GOING TO SEND YOU ALL WHATEVER THIS LINK IS IN THIS WEEK. AND THEN BASICALLY SHE'S GOING TO THE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS THE WHAT THEY PUT TOGETHER TO THIS POINT. AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO PUT OUR IDEAS IN. THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T READY FOR TONIGHT. BUT THEN SHE WAS GOING TO SEND IT UP TO OUR COMMITTEE. I WHO WAS I DON'T I'M COMMITTEE THESE THE QUESTION THE OTHER HALF I THINK THE OTHER THE SO THE THREE WERE IN ONE AND EVERYONE ELSE IS IN THE OTHER. CAN THERE BE FOUR IN THE OTHER ONE? I'M JUST WONDERING FOR A QUORUM REASONS. YEAH. OH, I DON'T KNOW. I'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. JUST DOUBLE CHECK. OKAY. BUT SO WHAT SHE'S GOING TO DO IS SHE'S GOING TO SEND IT TO YOU. THE SUBCOMMITTEE, AND THEN SHE'S HOPING TO GET YOUR IDEAS BY THE 16TH OF THIS MONTH. SO WE'RE NOT PHYSICALLY MEETING TOGETHER. THAT'S KIND OF UP TO YOU IF YOU WE'RE NOT PHYSICALLY MEETING TOGETHER AND THAT. SO THAT WOULD WORK. RIGHT. AND I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO UNLESS YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THINGS. BUT THE WAY THEY HAVE THIS, THE WAY THEY HAVE THIS SET UP, IT'S A REAL NICE PROGRAM. YOU YOU JUST CLICK RIGHT ON IT AND MAKE YOUR COMMENTS RIGHT ON THE ACTUAL THING THEY'RE HAVING. AND THAT SHARES WITH EVERYBODY. AND IT'S PRETTY NEAT SYSTEM. THEY HAVE [01:05:04] TO, YOU KNOW, VIEW AND YOU KNOW COMMENT ON EVERYTHING. SO MY ONLY OKAY THIS IS A CUTE THING FROM WHAT I'M JUST GONE THROUGH A WHOLE NEW BUILDING DESIGN AND DEALING WITH ARCHITECTS. THE ONLY THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT IT DOES LOSE THE DIALOG AND THE ABILITY TO ASK QUESTIONS, AND WHETHER OR NOT YOUR STUFF ACTUALLY GETS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. I'M TRYING TO SEE WHAT SHE SAYS ON THIS. SHE DOES SAY IN HERE THAT SHE IS AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES FOR QUESTIONS LIKE THIS. BUT I SUPPOSE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE GROUP QUESTIONS, I THINK TO SOME DEGREE THE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN OURSELVES. YEAH. IS USEFUL CONVERSATION TO BOUNCE IDEAS AROUND TOO, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHY. AND IT'S BECAUSE LIKE, A LOT OF THIS STUFF JUST GETS LOST IN THAT IN THAT PROCESS. YEAH, YEAH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BECAUSE OUR WHOLE STAFF THAT WAS PART OF IT WENT AND MADE THEIR COMMENTS, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THAT LED TO YET. RIGHT. SO BUT IT DOES MAKE LIKE A LITTLE DOT ON WHATEVER WHEREVER YOU HAD YOUR COMMENT AND IT STAYS THERE. I HAVEN'T SEEN THE UPDATED. SO WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT? I'M NOT SURE. I GUESS I COULD ASK HER, BUT HOW WE KNOW IT'S GETTING, YOU KNOW, DEALT WITH. YEAH, I GUESS JUST FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS. RIGHT. LIKE WHEN SEAN FIRST CAME HERE, LIKE HE HAS SUGGESTED THERE WAS GOING TO BE THIS INPUT WHERE WE'D BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM AS LIKE A SMALL GROUP MULTIPLE TIMES AND COME BACK TO HERE AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. SHE WILL I KNOW SHE WILL DO THAT. SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT. MY POINT IS THAT THAT HASN'T FELT TO ME, IT HASN'T FELT LIKE THAT PROCESS HAS NECESSARILY PANNED OUT. RIGHT. AND WE CAN I CAN DEFINITELY MAKE HER AWARE OF THAT. RIGHT. HOW THAT HAPPENS. RIGHT. YEAH. SO YEAH, I'LL DO THAT FOR SURE. SO SHE'S ASKING THAT THAT YOU REVIEW IT BY THE 16TH. THEN THAT'LL GIVE THEM TIME TO PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER AND HAVE IT READY FOR THE 23RD MEETING. SO IT WILL BE SHOWN WHAT YOU WHAT YOU ALL PUT IN FOR YOUR INPUT. BUT THE 23RD MEETING, SHE'S GOING TO BE HERE AGAIN. I THINK I HAD IT AT SIX JUST TO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THOSE MEETINGS CAN GET LONG. SO THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO ADD IN THERE. AND WHEN IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. DID YOU. YEP. SO PUBLIC PUBLIC. THEN AFTER THE SMALL COMMITTEE IS DONE, THEN THE PUBLIC WILL REVIEW IN MARCH AND THEY CAN DO THE EXACT SAME THING THAT OUR COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE DOING. OKAY. SO THEN ONCE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE DONE IN MARCH, THEY'LL MAKE THEIR FINAL EDITS. AND THEN ON THE GOAL IS TO BRING IT BACK TO HERE, APRIL 27TH MEETING TO GET OUR APPROVAL AND THEN TO COUNCIL ON JUNE 2ND. OKAY. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE TIMEFRAME THERE. GOT IT. SO JUNE IS THE FINAL APPROVAL OR RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALL THAT OKAY. AND THEN WE DO CIP IN JULY. I'VE BEEN DOING CIP RIGHT NOW WHICH I YES I MEAN JUST RIGHT. YES. THAT FEEDS INTO THAT OTHER. YES. THAT'S WHY LIKE IT'S RIGHT NOW PRETTY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DO THE CIP WITHOUT WITHOUT HAVING THIS. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. SO STILL GIVE ME A MONTH OR SO TO PUT THAT TOTALLY TOGETHER. BUT OKAY. THEY WANT SOMEBODY YOU NEED TO HAVE WHATEVER OUR ACTION PLAN IS GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THAT. RIGHT. I FEEL LIKE I'M WASTING MY TIME A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO. YEAH, I DON'T EITHER. BUT I'M GETTING ALL VOTED, SO. YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE PARKS MASTER PLAN. IF YOU HAVE EVER HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, JUST EMAIL ME AND I CAN ASK HER OR CONNECT YOU WHATEVER. SHE IS VERY RESPONSIVE. SO THE FACT THAT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY HAVEN'T MET WITH HER, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS WHEN THEY SAY MEET, THEY MEAN JUST, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING AND DOING THAT. SO I WILL I WILL REQUEST THAT FROM HER FOR SURE. BUT I KNOW SHE'LL SHE'LL DO IT FOR US. ANOTHER THING WORLD SNOW. WE JUST GOT DONE. THE WORLD SNOW CELEBRATION. HUGE HIT. TONS OF PEOPLE. THE ART. IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL DOWN THERE. HOW LONG IS IT UP FOR? WE WILL LEAVE THEM UP AS LONG AS THEY'RE STILL SAFE AND LOOKING GOOD. AND HONESTLY, WITH THE COLDNESS. BUT THE WIND AND THE COLD DOES DETERIORATE THEM AS WELL. THEY'RE NOT AS PRISTINE AS THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY. YEAH, BUT AS LONG AS WE CAN, WE'LL KEEP IT UP. I MEAN, IT JUST KEEPS PEOPLE COMING. AND I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE HAVEN'T REALLY EVEN LOOKED THAT MUCH YET BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO COLD. SO WE MONITOR IT PRETTY MUCH DAILY. AND IF WE HAVE TO TAKE ONE DOWN HERE AND THERE, WE DO. OKAY, THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE THEY KIND OF GO AT THE SAME TIME. SO IT'S VERY I WAS JUST DOWN THERE THE NIGHT BEFORE. I HADN'T SEEN IT TILL TONIGHT. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. AND THE LIGHTS ARE ALL ON NOW TOO. SO IT'S [01:10:04] STILL ON. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF, IF ANY OF YOU BEEN DOWN THERE, BUT NOW WITH THE 16 TEAMS, IT KIND OF CURVES AROUND TO THE POINT A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO THERE'S BEEN PICTURES FROM NORTH GOING SOUTH AND YOU SEE THE BRIDGE AND THE LIGHTS AND IT'S JUST LIKE IT'S PRETTY INCREDIBLE. I MEAN IT'S IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL. SO WHAT'S THE AGREEMENT WITH THAT EVENT. WILL THEY COME BACK AGAIN. YEAH. SO I THINK ORIGINALLY IT WAS A THREE YEAR BUT NOW IT'S JUST A YEAR BY YEAR. BUT IT'S ACTUALLY CHAMBER. THE CHAMBER DOES IT NOW. THEY USED TO BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A DIFFERENT COMPANY. THAT CONTRACT WAS UP. AND NOW THE CHAMBER TOOK IT OVER ON THEIR OWN. LIKE THEY SPENT A BUNCH OF MONEY TO BE WITH THIS OTHER COMPANY. THAT AND THEN THEY LEARN FROM THEM AND NOW THEY'RE DOING IT ON THEIR OWN. SO IT COULD BE YEAR TO YEAR. THEY I KNOW THEY LOSE MONEY, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY CAN SUSTAIN IT, BUT THEY'RE WORKING HARD TO NOT LOSE MONEY. BUT. IT IS I MEAN THAT THAT WEEK LIKE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, DOWNTOWN, THE RESTAURANTS, I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE RESTAURANT OWNERS. THEY'RE BUSY LIKE A SUMMER DAY. LIKE IT'S CRAZY. SO GOOD. I'M GLAD. YEAH, WELL, IT'S JUST LIKE THE TWINKLE PARADE. LOOK AT THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN. YOU COULDN'T GET INTO A RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN. SAME THING. YEAH. SO NICE, I KNOW. YEAH, IT'S NICE TO HAVE. IT'S JUST NICE TO HAVE WINTER ACTIVITIES AND. AND STILLWATER. IT'S SO PRETTY DOWN HERE ALL THE TIME. BUT YOU LOSE THAT FOOT TRAFFIC. THAT HAS BEEN A BIG THING. NOTED ON THE PARKS MASTER PLAN IS LIKE WINTER ACTIVITIES TO TRY TO INCREASE THOSE. SO THERE I MEAN THAT THE PLAN THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT. SO THE ICE CREAM SOCIAL IS THIS SATURDAY. IT'S ON THE PLAZA RIGHT BY LEO'S THERE. SO THAT'S THE LAST EVENT WE HAVE IN JANUARY. AND THEN WE WILL BE PROBABLY STARTING TAKING DOWN THE ORNAMENTS IN THE TREE. LIKE NEXT MONDAY. WE TYPICALLY GO THROUGH WORLD SNOW AND THEN START TAKING THAT STUFF DOWN. BUT THIS WEEK I JUST STILL FEEL IT'S TOO COLD. SO WE'LL, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MID 20S NEXT WEEK. SO THAT'S THE PLAN TAKING THAT THAT STUFF DOWN. AND THEY DID START TAKING ALL THE TEAM FLAGS DOWN THAT ARE ON MAIN STREET. WHEN THEY HAD THE THEY HAD LIKE 48 OF THE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES FLAGS OUT. WE STARTED TAKING THOSE DOWN TODAY TOO BECAUSE THE EVENT WAS OVER ON SUNDAY. SO TECHNICALLY ON SUNDAY. IS THE GRIEF TREE THAT'S GOING TO BE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN THAT'S I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. OKAY. HAS ANYBODY LOOKED AT IT? I WAS DOWN THERE. I HAD TO LOOK FINE. YEAH, IT LOOKS REALLY COOL. IT'S OVER BY THE BATHROOMS ON THE SOUTH SIDE. YEAH, YEAH. DID YOU SEE IT I DID I GET, I GOT DOWN THERE. YEAH I GOT DOWN THERE TO SEE IT. SO I KNOW SHE WANTED THE EXTENDED BUT I WASN'T SURE WHERE WAS THAT SAME PERSON. THAT ISN'T THE ARTIST. IT'S NOT THE ARTIST. ADVOCATE FOR IT. YEAH. FOR IT. YEAH. NO, I WAS JUST. YEAH. YOU WERE GOING. YOU WANT TO DO AROUND LONG LAKE? NO. SO. OKAY WITH THE ARTWORK AROUND LONG LAKE? THAT'S MOST UPDATES I HAVE. UNLESS YOU HAD MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. I JUST HAVE ONE THING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD WANT TO MEET. AND, COMMISSIONER LAYMAN, JUST FOR A SECOND. THE THREE OF US. YEAH, I GUESS I DID HAVE. IS IT UPDATES FOR ANYONE OR JUST QUESTIONS? SURE. OKAY. YEAH. I GUESS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO DOWN TO NORTHLAND RINK AND JUST THANK YOU FOR THE CREW DOING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THIS YEAR, BUT LIKE THE ICE HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD. IT'S KIND OF FUN SEEING PEOPLE LIKE SHOVEL IT OFF TO. BUT YEAH, THANK YOU TO THAT. TOOK A WHILE TO GET GOING. BUT NOW SINCE IT IS I MEAN I KNOW IT'S COLD AND NOT AS MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO IT NOW, BUT IT IS STILL FUN SEEING THE ACTIVITY. SPEAKING OF THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING TOO, AND I KNOW IT'S THE NEW YEAR WITH THE NEW PARKING LOT OVER AT THE REC CENTER, BUT I WAS ABLE TO DRIVE BY LIKE ONE OF THE EVENTS, AND I NOTICED THAT THE BUSSES WERE LIKE PARKING IN THE MAIN, AND THEN THE NEW WASN'T BEING USED. SO THE MAXIMUM AND I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT EVENT IT WAS, BUT IT WAS JUST LIKE I WAS WONDERING IF IF THEY COULD COMMUNICATE WITH THE BUSSES TO HAVE THEM USE THAT BRAND NEW PARKING LOT MORE JUST. AND THE REASON I INVESTIGATED IT WAS I DIDN'T WANT TO GET THE GIRLS OUT OF THE CAR, BUT I WAS KIND OF SEEING IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A KIND OF A CLUSTER. YEAH, STILL. AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT'S HAPPENING? LIKE, IS IT GETTING USED? AND I NOTICED THE THE MAIN PARKING LOT WAS BEING USED BY THE BUSSES. SO THAT'S I JUST THOUGHT I'D PASS THAT ALONG. CAN THE BUS. VERY GOOD POINT. I WOULD HAVE TO COME UP ON THE BACKSIDE TO GET INTO IT. RIGHT. THEY CAN'T USE THAT LITTLE. I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO. I'D HAVE TO DRIVE IT ONCE JUST TO SEE IF THEY COULD NAVIGATE IT. BUT I MEAN, BUT THEY CAN STILL GO UP AND AROUND ANY. YEAH, BUT YEAH, I COULD NAVIGATE IT JUST TO SEE IF THEY COULD GET THROUGH THAT BOTTOM PART. BUT FOR SURE THEY CAN AT LEAST GO AROUND AND GO [01:15:01] BACK OUT ON THE CURVE AND THEN BACK IN. I MEAN, YEAH, IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE. WHY ARE THEY. YEAH I'M SURPRISED MORE PEOPLE HAVEN'T COMPLAINED. ACTUALLY. THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I TALKED TO DOUG BREEN. YEAH, YEAH. NO. THREE DAY WEEKEND WITH THE MARTIN LUTHER KING HOLIDAY WEEKEND WHEN THEY HAD THE HOCKEY TOURNAMENT UP THERE. AND THEY HAVE THE SAINT CROIX SOCCER AT THE SATURDAY. ENDED UP PARKING LOT WAS FULL. WAS PARKING UP THERE FOR SOME REASON IN THE NEW ONE. IN THE NEW ONE, THEY LOVE PARKING UP AND THEY LOVE PARKING RIGHT BY THE STAIRS. BUT THEY ACTUALLY BEST PART IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND THEY CAN JUST USE THE SIDEWALK, AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO NAVIGATE THE WHOLE RUNNING ACROSS THE PARKING LOT. YEAH, CARS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH. NICE. IT'S AMAZING HOW FULL THAT GETS UP THERE ALL THE TIME. YEAH, WELL I SAW THEM BOTH FULL. IT MUST HAVE BEEN THE SAME WEEK. AND IT WAS LIKE, WHAT DID WE DO BEFORE WHEN IT WAS. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE WE HAD TO BUILD WE HAD TO BUILD A NEW ONE. DEFINITELY WAS NEEDED. IT'S TOO BAD WE SOLD THAT. THE CITY SOLD THAT PROPERTY OFF, UNBEKNOWNST TO SOME OF US, FOR THAT APARTMENT BEHIND IT. THAT WAS CITY PROPERTY, TOO. BOUGHT ALL THAT WHEN WE GOT THE CUB TARGET AND SOMEBODY BEFORE I WAS ON THE COUNCIL SOLD IT. MOTION TO ADJOURN. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.