Apr 27, 2026 Parks and Recreation Commission

[I. CALL TO ORDER]

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YOU'RE WAY OVER THERE. CALLING THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. APRIL 27TH AT 7 P.M. FOLKS, WE'RE TRYING TO GET GOING HERE. YEAH. HEY, YOU GOTTA GET A PICTURE.

SUPERINTENDENT. ROLL CALL. YEAH. CHAIR KEY HERE. I SEE, LET'S GO WITH COMMISSIONERS. MANIACI HERE. MCSWAIN HERE. PAVLAS HERE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER PAULINA HERE. AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE VICE CHAIR LARSON. COUNCIL MEMBERS. LAYMAN AND RIGHT. AND LAST. OH, YEAH. I SAID LARSON SORRY. ALL ABSENT. SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. YEP, YEP. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES I WAS. I'LL MAKE I

[III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[IV. OPEN FORUM – the open forum allows the public to address the commission on subjects which are not a part of the meeting. Commission may take-action, reply, or give direction to staff. Please limit your comments to 5 minutes or less.]

YOU'RE YOU'RE ON OPEN FORUM. YEP. OKAY. YES. YOU CAN TALK NOW, PLEASE. YEP. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. AND YOU CAN SIT AT THE TABLE AND WHATEVER. RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I'M. OH.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I'M NANCY LINER REPRESENTING STILLWATER SUNRISE ROTARY CLUB, AND WE HAVE MET BEFORE. AND OUR REQUEST WAS TO HAVE A PEACE POLE WITH SOME BENCHES AND NATIVE PLANTS IN LUMBERJACK LANDING. AND THAT WENT THROUGH A PRELIMINARY VOTE AT YOUR COMMISSION. JUST WONDERING WHAT THE STATUS IS, IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO BEGIN MOVING FORWARD, OR WHAT REQUIREMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS MIGHT YOU HAVE AT THIS POINT? BUT I'M JUST KIND OF HERE FOR A PROGRESS CHECK AND WONDERING WHAT'S HAPPENING. MARK, WHERE'S OUR COMMITTEE AT? WELL, THE THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DID IT GO TO THE COUNCIL? CITY COUNCIL? NO. YOU DIDN'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. IT WAS PRELIMINARILY PRELIMINARILY APPROVED, BUT IT WAS MORE LIKE WE'LL TAKE IT UNDER CONSIDERATION. THE PLAN, THEY HADN'T REALLY STARTED CONSTRUCTION YET. AND WE HAD AN IDEA ALONG THE THE WOODLAND PATH FOR LIKE A LITTLE SPUR TRAIL. SO WE WERE JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT'S GOING IF WE END UP MAKING THIS A DISTRICT GRANT, WHICH WE MIGHT DO, THAT'S DUE AT THE END OF MAY. OTHERWISE, OUR CLUB WILL STILL BE RESPONSIBLE. BUT IF, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO KIND OF SOMETHING BIG, WE MAY WANT TO MOVE IT A LITTLE QUICKER. JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU ALL THOUGHT. I BELIEVE THIS IS WHY WE FORMED THE SUBCOMMITTEE SO WE COULD GET WHAT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WE WERE GOING TO FOLLOW. CORRECT. THIS WAS SOMETHING WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT AND NOT WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED. THE OTHER THING IS JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE READY FOR ANYTHING THIS YEAR. WE'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN THAT DOORWAY UNTIL POSSIBLY NOVEMBER, OCTOBER. SO ALL THE GRADING AND THE WHOLE SITE IS GOING TO BE DONE NOW. THE ROCK RIPRAP ALONG THE SHORELINE IS GOING TO BE REDONE. THE ROAD'S GOING TO BE DONE. EVERYTHING. SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING ANYTHING DOWN THERE. OKAY. SO ARE YOU SAYING IT WOULD BE BETTER TO COME BACK IN THE WINTER OR THE END OF THE FALL AND TAKE A LOOK? IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET DOWN THERE AND ACTUALLY SEE THIS PATH. DO YOU THINK THE WOODLAND PATH WILL BE IN THIS FALL? THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO ALL THE TRAILS THIS THIS SUMMER. IT'S ALL COMING. YEAH. WELL, IF IT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE, WE'D LIKE TO GET DOWN AND GO DOWN THERE. YOU CAN GO DOWN ANYBODY. I THOUGHT IT'S ALL CLOSED AROUND THE GATE. OR IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOUGH TO GET IN THERE. YEAH. NOT NOW.

IT'S. IT'S A MUD HOLE DOWN THERE. IS THE IS IT TURNING OUT LIKE THE SITE MAP? IS THAT THE WAY IT'S WORKING. IT'S GOING TO BE. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE. IT'S ALL BEEN BID OUT. AND MILLER EXCAVATING SUPPOSED TO BE STARTING ON THAT REALLY SOON. OKAY. SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING MORE TO DO DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO THE LANDSCAPING HAS BEEN DONE AND JUST WE HAVE THE BUILDING PRETTY MUCH DONE. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE, I MEAN, I LOOK AT YOUR PROJECT AS MORE LANDSCAPING PART OF IT BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT LITTLE TRAIL, RIGHT? WE WERE LOOKING AT A LITTLE SPUR TRAIL OFF THE WOODLAND TRAIL BY THE RIVER. SO.

NANA. YEAH. SO WE'RE FAR FROM THAT. OKAY. SO, I MEAN, SO THE FALL WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO

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CHRIS IS MY COWORKER HERE. WE WE ARE TOGETHER ON THIS. SO WE'LL GO FOR A WALK DOWN THERE AND CHECK IT OUT. YEAH. YOU'D HAVE TO WALK AROUND THE GATE, BUT YOU COULD WALK PART THROUGH PART OF IT. BUT LIKE I SAID, I WOULDN'T GO DOWN THERE NOW. IT'S TERRIBLE. WE JUST HAD A TOUR DOWN. DON'T WALK. IT'S MUDDY RIGHT NOW. OH NO NO NO, WAIT A MONTH. OKAY. AT LEAST A MONTH. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, PEACE TO YOU ALL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NO OTHER OPEN FORUMS PRESENTATION. I WAS THINKING MAYBE WE THE GUESTS WE HAVE, WE CAN BUMP THEM UP ON THE LIST

[4. River Valley Yoga Festival- New Event]

SO BASICALLY I THINK YOU ALL SAW THE MEMO, BUT ALICE'S PROPOSING TO HAVE A YOGA FEST IN LOWELL PARK. AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF DOWNTOWN. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BEST IF YOU MAYBE YOU INTRODUCE IT AS HOW YOU SEE IT AND THEN THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS, I THINK WOULD BE THE EASIEST. GREAT. WELL, GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN. SO I'M ALYSSA AND I'M THE OWNER OF RIVER VALLEY YOGA FESTIVAL. I'M GUESSING YOU MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH YOGA FESTIVALS. YOGA FESTIVALS HAVE BEEN POPPING UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR ABOUT THE LAST 17 YEARS. THEY OFTEN TAKE PLACE IN COMMUNITIES LIKE TELLURIDE, SEDONA, ASHEVILLE. THEY BRING IN PEOPLE AND ATTENDEES FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. THEY COME IN, THEY STAY, AND THEY REALLY IMMERSE THEMSELVES OVER THE COURSE OF THE WEEKEND FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF YOGA RELATED ACTIVITIES. SO THAT CAN LOOK LIKE ANYTHING FROM A YOGA MOVEMENT CLASS TO A MEDITATION CLASS. WE HAVE TALKS ON THINGS LIKE WOMEN'S HEALTH OR LAST YEAR WE EVEN HAD SOMETHING ON COLD AND FLU CARE FROM A NATURAL PERSPECTIVE. SO LOTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACTIVITIES TAKE PLACE AT THESE EVENTS. UP UNTIL FOUR YEARS AGO, MINNESOTA DIDN'T HAVE A YOGA FESTIVAL AND I BROUGHT ONE HERE. IT IS CURRENTLY THE LARGEST YOGA FESTIVAL IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF OUR SURROUNDING AND NEIGHBORING STATES, WHICH IS PRETTY EXCITING. WE BRING IN BETWEEN 200 AND 300 PEOPLE FOR THE EVENT. CURRENTLY, IN THE PAST YEARS, WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS ON A PRIVATE FARM JUST NORTH OF STILLWATER IN STILLWATER TOWNSHIP. HOWEVER, THE OWNERS OF THAT FARM HAVE MOVED OUT OF STATE AND ARE PLANNING TO SELL. AND SO AT THAT POINT, I DECIDED IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO START TO BRING THIS FESTIVAL INTO COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH HOW THESE EVENTS ARE RUN THROUGHOUT, I WOULD SAY, ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO MY PROPOSAL IS THAT WE WOULD USE LOWELL PARK FOR MOSTLY OUR VENDOR MARKET AS WELL AS OUR CHECK IN, SO IT WOULD REALLY BE MORE OF A HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOCUSED VENDOR MARKET. WE WOULD ALSO HAVE SOME FOOD TRUCKS, HOPEFULLY WITH A FOCUS ON VEGAN, VEGETARIAN, GLUTEN FREE, KIND OF SOME HEALTHIER OPTIONS, BUT OF COURSE, SOME BURGERS BECAUSE WHO DOESN'T LIKE A BURGER? AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE OUR CHECK IN ALSO IN LOWELL PARK, AND WE WOULD HOST A FEW CLASSES THERE AS WELL. BECAUSE WHEN I SPOKE WITH CHAD ABOUT THIS EARLIER, WE SAID IT'S JUST TOO BEAUTIFUL ALONG THE RIVER NOT TO HAVE SOME CLASSES OUTSIDE IN THAT AREA. BUT THEN MY VISION IS TO PARTNER WITH OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES UP AND DOWN MAIN STREET WHO MAY HAVE SPACE AVAILABLE, WHERE WE COULD ALSO OFFER CLASSES. SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE ARE GREAT PARTNERS AND PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THROUGH THE CHAMBER AND THROUGH MY COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, AND SO THIS REALLY GIVES A NICE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THEM, TO HIGHLIGHT THEIR BUSINESS AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE

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OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS KIND OF RELATED TO THAT, I JUST WAS KIND OF THINKING THE LOCATION.

I JUST, I LOVE YOGA AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WITH THE PROXIMITY BEING THE PAPI'S AND THAT LIKE KIND OF YES, MAYBE INTERRUPTING THE FLOW. YES. THAT'S WHY I GUESS THAT THAT WAS MY INITIAL CONCERN, SEEING THE LAYOUT THERE. AND I WAS KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT A DIFFERENT PARK OR LOCATION TO GET THAT, BUT I JUST, I GUESS WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ON. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. SO IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I HAVE ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT THAT A LOT. I'VE WORKED A LOT OF EVENTS AS A VOLUNTEER IN LOWELL PARK, AND I KNOW WHAT PD PAPI'S TRAFFIC IS LIKE. I USED TO, I ACTUALLY SPENT ONE EVENT NAVIGATING AND TELLING MOTORCYCLISTS THAT THEY COULDN'T PARK IN THE LITTLE CIRCLE. THAT WAS A FUN VOLUNTEER JOB. I GOT QUITE A REPUTATION THROUGH THAT ONE, BUT I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND MY VISION IS THAT AGAIN, MOSTLY IN THE PARK, WE WOULD HAVE VENDORS IF WE WERE TO DO CLASSES. MY PROPOSAL AT THIS POINT IS TO HAVE THEM DONE OPEN AIR, AND I THINK WE WOULD GO MORE TOWARDS THE SOUTH END OF NORTH LOWELL SO THAT MORE TOWARDS THE PAVED PORTION WHERE THE CIRCLE IS. BECAUSE OF THAT TRAFFIC AND KEEPING THINGS A LITTLE QUIETER. AND JUST TO BUILD OFF OF THAT, LIKE EVEN TONIGHT LOOKING AT LUMBERJACK LANDING AND JUST KIND OF THE DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE ALONG THE RIVERFRONT, LIKE I KIND OF WONDER ABOUT THAT CHANGING INTO THE FUTURE TOO, IF IT WERE TO GO WELL, AND IT JUST SEEMS THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE MORE PEACEFUL OPPORTUNITIES. WELL, THE OTHER ONES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE THIS SUMMER EITHER. THAT'S STARTING NOW. I, THE PERSON I, I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. I THINK WE'RE GETTING TOO MUCH DONE AT LOWELL PARK. IT'S IT'S OVERTAKING THE PARK. AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT EVERY EVERY WEEKEND IS TAKEN UP BY AN EVENT DOWNTOWN.

AND THERE'S, THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT TRYING TO CUT DOWN ON SOME OF THE EVENTS. OH, INTERESTING. SO WE'RE LOOKING. YEAH, YEAH. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE 50 VENDORS, YOU KNOW, SO I KNOW SOME OF THE EVENTS HAVE MANY MORE THAN THAT. SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CONTAIN A LITTLE BIT, I THINK. BUT YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE I HATE, I HATE TO THE SOUTH PARK WOULD BE PROBABLY BETTER FOR IT. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS HAVING A BIG OPEN SPACE DOWN THERE TO DO STUFF LIKE THIS. AND BUT THAT'S

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THE FESTIVAL RUNS FROM ABOUT 730 IN THE MORNING TILL ABOUT 8 OR 9 EVERY NIGHT, AND CLASSES WE HOLD 3 TO 5 CLASSES EVERY HOUR OR TWO. AND SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE ALL OF THOSE IN THE PARK.

WE WOULD JUST HAVE A FEW IN THE PARK. THE PARK WOULD BE MOSTLY THE VENDORS, AND SO WE'D HAVE PEOPLE GOING THERE TO CHECK IN. WE'D HAVE A LITTLE BIT. OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A STILLWATER PASSPORT, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GO TO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, CHECKING OUT DIFFERENT VENDORS. AND SO THE CLASSES WOULD BE MORE CONTAINED, I THINK, TO THE BUSINESSES IS THE VISION. I HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH. THE PARKING LOT. DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE FROM LAST YEAR THAT YOU HAD AT THE FARM? YES, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE AROUND. I'M PLANNING TO KEEP TICKET SALES TO BETWEEN 200 AND 300, JUST AS WE DID LAST YEAR. SO THE PARKING LOT, I THINK IT'S. 11 I WOULD WANT TO SAY, YEAH, SO THAT'S A VIP OR NO. SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT PARKING HAS ALREADY MET. YES. OKAY. SO THE PARKING COMMISSION DID MEET ON THIS. THEY THEY DID NOT WANT TO RECOMMEND USAGE OF LOT 11.

THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO WE'RE HAVING A BIG POWWOW AND LOOKING AT HOW WE USE OUR PARKING LOTS. AND WE WANT TO KEEP THEM OPEN FOR PARKING. SO FOR EVENTS, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO LIMIT IT TO SPACE. THAT'S ACTUALLY FOR THE EVENT, LIKE THE FOOD TRUCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, VERSUS JUST RESERVING PARKING FOR AN EVENT. BECAUSE IF THAT SITS EMPTY, IT DOESN'T LOOK, YOU KNOW, STRONG AND IN THEIR EYES. SO THAT WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS.

BUT THEY DID HAVE NO PROBLEM ALLOWING HER TO USE LOT NINE THERE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PARKING. I DON'T VOTE ON THIS COMMISSION. SO BUT I'LL JUST I'LL JUST TELL YOU, I'M JUST CONCERNED. WE'RE GETTING TOO MANY EVENTS. IT'S EVERY WEEKEND IS IS FILLING UP THAT PARK AND THE PUBLIC CAN'T EVEN COME TO STILLWATER AND USE IT ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S NOTHING BUT EVENTS. OKAY. BUT I KNOW YOU'RE EVENT PUBLIC. YEAH. SO, YEAH, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

HOW ABOUT THE GAZEBO? IS THAT GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION? THAT WILL BE THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE SUMMER. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EVENT. MAX. I'LL SECOND. ALL. SO I'M THINKING THE MOTION IS FOR THIS EVENT, THIS LOCATION FOR THIS YEAR. WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THERE OR THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY THIS MOTION IS. SO YES. SO THERE'S BEEN A MOTION. THERE'S BEEN A SECOND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE AYE. MOTION PASSES. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU GUYS. SO THEN AFTER THIS THIS WILL GO THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS COMMISSION THAT'LL GO TO COUNCIL NEXT. SO THEY DO HAVE FINAL APPROVAL. SO BUT THAT'LL I'LL GET THAT GOING FOR THE NEXT MEETING MAY 5TH. RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. NEXT WEEK. YEAH.

NEXT WEEK. YEP. YEAH. OKAY. NEXT ONE UP STILLWATER FILM FESTIVAL. WE HAVE PAUL. PAUL,

[5. Stillwater Film Festival- New Event]

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IT'S A VERY STILL WATERY AND FILM SCREENING LOCATION. IMPORTANT DETAILS MIGHT BE LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD WE ANTICIPATE? I WOULD SAY WE'RE PROBABLY AIMING FOR A CROWD OF ABOUT 500 PEOPLE. THIS WOULDN'T BE LYNYRD SKYNYRD IF I HEAR THAT A LOT, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THAT AT ALL. IT'S IT'S FILM FESTIVALS AREN'T FOR EVERYBODY, BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM, THEY WILL. THEY'LL COME TO IT. IT ALL JUST DEPENDS ON THE FILM. AND SO IF WE IF THE STARS ALIGN AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET A PREMIERE OF A EXCEPTIONAL FILM, IT COULD EXPAND. BUT IN THE FIRST YEAR, WE'RE PROBABLY AIMING AT ABOUT 500. AND LIMITED FACILITY IS JUST LIKE

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AND PUT POWER THERE. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO GO THERE? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THE PROXIMITY TO THE GRAND AND THE RIVERBOATS MADE ME THINK ABOUT SOUTH LOWELL AND. TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THEM, I WOULD SAY WE WON'T. I THINK THAT JUST TO DISTINGUISH IT FROM OTHER FILM EVENTS, PROBABLY ALSO A SCREEN THAT'S LARGER THAN THE CEMENT FOOTPRINT, THE POWER WOULD, WILL STILL BE, WOULD STILL BE ADVANTAGEOUS, BUT THE SCREEN WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT 45 TO 50FT WIDE, I THINK. OH, REALLY? YEAH. DID YOU LOOK AT THE SIGHT LINES FROM. YES. DID YOU GO DOWN AND LOOK TO THAT? YES. I HAVE TOO MANY TREES IN THE WAY. YEAH. SOME OF THAT IS. YEAH.

THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOCATION THAT I WOULD PUT IT LIKE BETWEEN THE PARKING SIGN AND THE FLAGPOLE, YOU KNOW, WHICH ENDS UP BEING ABOUT 65FT THERE. AND WHAT I LIKE IS I REALLY LIKE THE PROXIMITY ALSO TO THE FREIGHT HOUSE AND JUST KIND OF THE THOUGH IT'S NOT A FULL AMPHITHEATER, JUST LIKE A LOT OF PLACE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET A DRINK AND WATCH THE FILM OR BE ON THE LAWN BECAUSE WE WON'T BE OFFERING BEER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE WON'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD. YEAH, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET IT THROUGH THE PARK EITHER, OR THROUGH THE BARS. I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BRING IT DOWN THERE. RIGHT. JUST STAY IN THE FACILITY. WELL, THEY DO IT FOR FIREWORKS ALREADY, SO. YEAH. YEAH. YEP. DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS WHAT YOU SAID TO ME RIGHT BEFORE HERE? YEAH. SO WE ARE IN TALKS WITH THE SAINT CROIX VALLEY FOUNDATION ABOUT HAVING THE EVENT IN 2027. AND WE'RE USING 26 AS A BUILDING YEAR. WE WANT TO HAVE A COMMUNITY CURATION TEAM. WE WANT TO CONNECT MORE WITH AREA GROUPS AND BUILD UP TO 27. AND WHEN I MET WITH CHAD, I WAS WE WERE THINKING WE WERE STILL GOING TO TRY TO DO IT THIS FALL, BUT NOW I'D REALLY LIKE TO AIM AT 27, SO I DON'T. I WASN'T SURE IF YOUR APPROVALS ARE CALENDAR YEAR SPECIFIC OR IF YOU. OR IF IT'S LIKE YOU WOULD SAY, WE'RE OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 27, BUT NOT GOING TO VOTE ON IT TONIGHT. I WASN'T SURE HOW THAT WOULD GO. OH, I SEE, I JUST, I PUT THIS MEMO OUT AND HE INFORMED ME THAT THIS TONIGHT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUSH IT BACK A YEAR.

SO BUT HE WAS HERE. SO HE FIGURED WE WOULD DISCUSS IT. AND I WILL SAY THAT, LIKE I SAID, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE PARK STAFF IS GOING TO MEET AND KIND OF GO OVER THIS.

WHERE ARE WE AT WITH EVENTS? AND THAT'S COMING UP HERE SOON. WE'RE GOING TO START HAVING THOSE TALKS. SO IT MAY BE JUST THE BEST TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TABLE THIS FOR, YOU KNOW, FUTURE. ONCE WE ESTABLISH WHAT WE PLAN TO DO AS FAR AS HOW MANY EVENTS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THAT. SO I KNOW IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE THE COUNCIL'S LOOKED AT THAT. RIGHT. FIRST YEARS ON THE COUNCIL, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 22 YEARS. SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. IT'S A LONG TIME. YEAH, YEAH. I WAS ALWAYS TOLD IT WAS GOING TO BE AROUND 40. AND YOU CAN SEE ON HERE WE'RE AT 51. SO BUT LIKE I SOME ARE SMALL, RIGHT? SOME ARE REAL SMALL. THE MAIN EVENTS IS

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WOULD YOU MIND TALKING ABOUT LIKE WHERE YOU LIKE I KNOW IT'S BUILDING. YEAH, BUT CAN YOU TALK ABOUT LIKE THE FUTURE OF LIKE WHAT YOU SEE AS THE CAPACITY? BECAUSE LIKE, I HEAR LIKE MIKE'S CONCERNS WITH EVENTS BEING PACKED DOWN THERE, BUT I ALSO KIND OF LIKE THAT THAT'S VIBRANT THINGS ARE HAPPENING, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE, YOU CAN'T DO OTHER THINGS IN THE PARK. AND LIKE, I KNOW FOR NOW, YOU'RE SHOWING JUST SOUTH ROLE, BUT LIKE, I GUESS, CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THE VISION MORE IF EVERYTHING WERE TO GO WELL, YEAH, WELL, NOT A LOT OUTDOORS JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN NEVER GUARANTEE IT. SO REALLY IT WOULD BE IF THERE WAS IF THERE'S GROWTH, IT WOULD BE IN THE INDOOR PRIVATE VENUES OR ON THE RIVERBOATS, MORE RIVERBOAT RIDE OFFERINGS, MORE NIGHTS AT THE GRAND. BUT JUST FROM AN EVENT PRODUCTION STANDPOINT, LIKE YOU'RE JUST ROLLING THE DICE. EVEN IN SEPTEMBER WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WEATHER. SO THERE WOULDN'T BE EXPANSION INTO A LARGER EVENT IN LOWELL PARK WITH MORE DAYS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT IN OUR STARS. BUT WHEN FILM FESTIVALS DO GAIN TRACTION, CITIES DO BENEFIT IN A UNIQUE WAY THAT IS NOT AT ALL LIKE MUSIC EVENTS LIKE LUMBERJACK DAYS, THE WAY THAT FILM FESTIVALS IMPACT CITIES, IT IMPACTS THE CULTURAL CAPACITY OF THE CITY, AND IT SHAPES THEIR IDENTITY ON A BROADER LEVEL. SO LIKE YOU ALL KNOW THE SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL, BUT THAT'S IN A TOWN OF ONLY 1500 PEOPLE. BUT EVERYONE AROUND THE WORLD KNOWS THAT NAME. THEY MAY NEVER VISIT SUNDANCE, BUT THEY THINK FAVORABLY OF IT. AND SO THAT'S REALLY VALUABLE FOR STILLWATER. AND WE'RE THE ONLY FILM FESTIVAL ON THAT LIST. SO BUT I'VE BEEN SEEING LUMBERJACK DAYS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW HOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT EVENT IS IN THE TOWN. AND, AND THIS IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN THAT. IT'S REALLY A WELL, IT'S A NICE COMMUNITY EVENT THAT IT GETS THE PUBLIC OUT TO MEET THEIR NEIGHBORS AND DO STUFF LIKE. RIGHT. WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH OF THAT. I MEAN, THE TWINKLE PARADE, YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE DO WITH THE TWINKLE PARADE. THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE NOW THAT'S STILLWATER. YEAH. AND I LIKE THAT STILLWATER FEEL TO STUFF.

AND IT EVENTUALLY BRINGS STILLWATER PEOPLE AND NOT BRINGING EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD OUT HERE TO STILLWATER. JUST YOU GET IT'S THE CITY, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT MAKES LIVING HERE STILLWATER SPECIAL. YEAH. IS THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THEIR NEIGHBORS AND GET ALONG OR PRETTY MUCH GETS ALONG WELL, I WAS YEAH. PAUL, I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE BANDSHELL AT PIONEER PARK AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THERE, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A BRAND NEW THING. IT LOOKS GORGEOUS. NO, I DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. YEAH. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHERE IF IT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANOTHER SCREENING, LIKE IN ADDITION TO LOWELL PARK, TO HAVE A SMALLER ONE IN PIONEER PARK, THAT'D BE GREAT BECAUSE I LOVE THAT PLACE. I GREW UP GOING THERE. SO THAT'S ALWAYS IT'S MY DREAM. YEAH. I GREW UP DOWN IN IOWA, WHERE I GREW UP IN IOWA. EVERY WEDNESDAY NIGHT THERE WAS A MUSIC THING WITH THE COMMUNITY. YEAH, EVERYBODY GOT OUT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HAD MUSIC, AND I JUST THINK THAT BROUGHT THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER. YES, I AGREE, I TOTALLY AGREE. AND IT'S AND THERE'S LIKE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DRAWN TO LIVE MUSIC DOWNTOWN STILLWATER AND THEN WHO IT WILL APPEAL TO A DIFFERENT GROUP WHO WILL COME FOR FILM EVENTS AND DIALOG THAT COMES OUT OF THAT. AND SO IT'S JUST A WAY TO SERVE EVEN MORE OF THE SPECTRUM OF RESIDENTS. YEAH. I MEAN, AUB DOES A GREAT JOB WITH THE MUSIC DOWN THERE, BRINGING PEOPLE DOWN THERE. IT'S YEAH, IT'S GREAT. RIGHT? THAT'S ALSO FILM FESTIVALS. CAN I THINK STILLWATER, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED IN STILLWATER. IT'S IT'S THE NUMBER OF PARKS HAVE INCREASED. THERE'S SO MUCH AHEAD. AND FILM CAN ENGAGE WITH TOPICS THAT ARE OF IMPORTANCE TO CITIES. SO IT CAN BE VERY

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RIGHT. SO LIKE, IF YOU DO, AND I THINK FROM A LOCAL RESIDENT PART, SOMETIMES WITH ALL THE STUFF DOWNTOWN, IT'S LIKE, I DON'T EVEN WANT PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED, THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT. SO IF WE WANT TO BUILD MORE COMMUNITY THINGS, YEAH, IT'S ABOUT GETTING IN AND OUT EASIER, RIGHT AND RIGHT. WITH THE HILL AND GETTING DOWN THERE. IT'S NOT EASY. THE PARKING IS NOT AVAILABLE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I THINK IF YOU DO LIKE A FESTIVAL, BUT IF YOU HAD ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE UP ON THE HILL, SOMEWHERE THAT WAS EASIER TO GET IN AND OUT OF, YOU'LL STILL GET THE TRAFFIC OF PEOPLE WANTING TO COME DOWN. YOU STILL HAVE THE INDOOR PLACES DOWNTOWN THAT PEOPLE COMING FROM OUTSIDE WOULD GO TO, BUT I THINK FROM A LOCAL STANDPOINT, YOU MIGHT GET MORE PARTICIPATION IF IT'S NOT RIGHT IN THE CLUSTER OF EVERYTHING, BECAUSE THAT PART ABOUT DOING IT BY A RIVER IS THAT YOU ONLY HAVE THREE DIRECTIONS TO COME FROM. YOU CAN'T, YOU'RE STUCK. RIGHT? AND SO IT CREATES SUCH A BOTTLENECK.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT FRUSTRATES PEOPLE ON TOP OF JUST THE THE MULTIPLE EVENTS.

BUT I THINK LIKE PULLING IT OUT, LIKE AT LEAST TO PIONEER, TO PIONEER PARK. BUT EVEN I THINK EVEN FARTHER OUT, WE COULD EVEN THINK ABOUT LIKE SOME OTHER PLACES. YEAH. AND WHAT I DIDN'T MENTION IT, BUT ONE THING THAT WE'VE RELIED UPON FOR THE SQUARE LAKE FESTIVAL, WHICH HAPPENS ON A SMALL PRIVATE PROPERTY, IS HALF OF OUR ATTENDEES BIKE. AND SO THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE WANT TO EXPLORE FOR THE STILLWATER FILM FESTIVAL. BRINGING PEOPLE INTO DOWNTOWN WITHOUT ONE PERSON IN ONE SUBURBAN. SO IT'S EASIER TO BIKE TO THE HIGHER PARTS THAN IT IS TO THE LOWER PART, BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO GO BACK UPHILL. YEAH, RIGHT. AND THERE'S THE THE GATEWAY TRAIL, RIGHT CONNECTION NOW AND STILL UPHILL THOUGH, UNLESS YOU WANT TO GET THE TRAM TO TAKE US ALL BACK UP. YEAH. RIGHT. I HAVE UBERED ONCE. YEAH. THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT QUESTIONS. JUST. YEAH. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, PAUL. WHAT'S UP? I GUESS I'D LIKE TO YEAH, LIKEWISE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STILLWATER FILM FESTIVAL IDEA ON THE THIRD WEEK OF SEPTEMBER IN 2026 OR 2027. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION AGAIN. I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO TABLE IT. YOUR MOTION. YOU MADE A MOTION. SO IT'S THERE. YEAH. HE'S NOT GOING TO BE READY FOR 2026 DISCUSSION. SO MY MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS WAS LIKE, HOW MUCH WOULD THIS GROW? AND HE ANSWERED MY CONCERNS WITH THAT PERFECTLY. SO I, I DON'T HAVE I DON'T NEED TO FOR ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I NEED TO, I MEAN, FOR YOU TO COME BACK IN A MONTH DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE WE HEARD ALL, YOU KNOW. YEAH. SO YEAH, BUT HE'S NOT GOING TO BE READY FOR THIS YEAR. HE'S NOT GOING TO BE READY FOR THIS YEAR. SO AND I DID SAY 27 IN THE MOTION AS WELL. YOU JUST SAID 26 2026 AND 26. YOU SAID 26. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU SAID 26. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. YEAH. OKAY. YES. OKAY. YOU DID SAY THEM BOTH.

YEAH. SO TO CLARIFY, 26 OR 27, DEPENDING ON YOUR. YEAH. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT 26 IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I'M. IT'S JUST JUST BE KIND OF VULNERABLE AND TRANSPARENT WITH YOU. I JUST DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD GET ANOTHER YEAR OF RUNWAY TO BUILD UP. OKAY. AND TO, AND I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM. OKAY. BUT WE HAVE PLANS IN PLACE FOR THIS YEAR, RESERVATIONS AND PLACES. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT NEXT YEAR. OKAY. BUT I WOULD IT IT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR OUR PROSPECTIVE SPONSORS AND SUPPORTERS, FOR US, FOR THEM, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SAY THE CITIES IN SUPPORT OF IT. WE'VE GOT APPROVAL AND WE ARE EXPLORING DEEPER WAYS TO CONNECT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND FOR 2020. I'LL JUST MAKE IT 2027. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. AYE AYE NAY. OKAY. SO IT'S MOTION DOESN'T

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NO. GOT IT. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. THANKS. YAY. SHOULD WE DO YOU WANT TO STAY WITH EVENTS? YEAH, MIGHT AS WELL. OKAY. LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL HER UP HERE. THE NEXT ONE IS. THE RC BAC RABBIT

[3. RCBAC Rabbit Show- New Event]

THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF IT'S NOT A BIG EVENT. IT'S NOT A BIG MONEY EVENT. SO THEY WERE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, LOWERING COSTS AND FINDING AN AFFORDABLE PLACE. IT SOUNDS LIKE SEE, IF I DID, I, THE MAP WAS IN THIS ONE, RIGHT? IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY BASICALLY BRING IN THEIR RABBITS, HAVE THE JUDGES JUDGE THEM AND, AND KIND OF ENJOY THE PARK AREA AND HAVE A FOOD TRUCK AND A COUPLE, TWO, 300 PEOPLE INVOLVED. SO WE DID ADDRESS, SHE AND I TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RABBIT WASTE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SHE SAYS THEY CLEAN ALL THAT UP AND, AND DO A GOOD JOB OF THAT. SO I KNOW SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED MAYBE WE GET EXTRA HAND WASHING STATIONS OR ASK THEM TO DO STUFF LIKE THAT. I MEAN, WE DO HAVE THE BATHROOMS THERE, BUT. GO BACK TO OUR MEMO. OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF JUST THE GIST OF IT SAID 7 TO 7. I THINK THAT'S CLEAN UP AND SET, YOU KNOW, TAKE DOWN THE WHOLE DAY. SO. LOOKING FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION OR, OR WHAT YOU GUYS FEEL ON, ON THIS ONE? YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OKAY, YOU'RE CLEANING UP OF THE RABBIT POOP. IS THAT SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE LAWN? IS IT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THEY DON'T DO A GOOD JOB OR.

RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY QUESTION IS MORE ON YOUR SIDE. OF COURSE, I LIKE IT AS A PIONEER PARK BECAUSE I WANT TO PROMOTE THAT PLACE. BUT YEAH. I THINK WE WILL MAKE SURE IT'S CLEANED UP BY THEM. OKAY. FOR SURE. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CLEAN UP ALL OF IT. YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE HITTING ON IT. LIKE, I GUESS I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH JUST SAYING CLEAN UP. LIKE I WANT TO KNOW, IS IT BEING DISINFECTED? LIKE I WANT TO KNOW A STEP BY STEPS RELATED TO THAT? I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT SEEMS WISHY WASHY TO ME. AND I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A CONCERN, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THERE'S TABLES AND CONCRETE, LIKE, IS IT BEING HOT SEED? LIKE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU A COUPLE HOURS TO CLEAN THAT? LIKE WHAT'S THE LEVEL? WELL, WE CAN DEMAND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TABLECLOTHS AND PROTECT EVERYTHING. I MEAN, YEAH, THEY PUT LINERS AND I MEAN, YEAH, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT. I MEAN, ARE THEY PUT STRAW DOWN AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND IT'S ALL MOSTLY DRY. LIKE I DON'T I MEAN, THE NUMBER OF RABBITS THAT ARE RUNNING AROUND IN USING THE BATHROOM EVERYWHERE, LIKE, BUT AREN'T THEY IN CAGES OR SOMETHING? YEAH, YEAH. SO THEY'LL BE IN THEIR CAGES AND THEY WON'T. SHE SAID. THEY ONLY TAKE THEM OUT TO GET JUDGED AND THEY'RE OUT FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, BUT HOW MANY RABBITS? I GUESS MAYBE THAT'S THAT ONE. I GUESS I DIDN'T ASK HER HOW MANY RABBITS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT LIKE CATEGORIES AND LEVELS THAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO I MEAN, THE RABBITS AT THE STATE FAIR, THAT'S A LOT OF RABBITS. I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT LARGE. BUT AFTER AFTER YOU HAVE ME THINKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN, IS THAT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO HAVE A RABBIT SHOW IN PIONEER PARK OR IS OR IS BROWNS CREEK PARK MORE OF A NATURAL PARK THAT HAS A BIG PARKING LOT? NOBODY'S USING IT OUT THERE. BETTER OFF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S NO PARKING. THERE'S NO PARKING AT LOWELL PARK OR PIONEER PIONEER PARK.

YEAH, I MEAN, THAT IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF PIONEER. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT DOESN'T GET USED AS OFTEN. IT'S THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 250, A LOT OF CARS. I COMPARE IT TO LIKE THE ECO FAIR THAT WE JUST HAD ON SUNDAY. I MEAN, OKAY, IT I DIDN'T YEAH THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S NO ALL DAY. SO IT'S NOT RIGHT. YEAH. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AND

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THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. THAT'S TRUE. WELL. IS THERE A MOTION. WHAT ABOUT JULY? IS THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH JULY? LIKE PLAYGROUND USE FROM PEOPLE ON THE WEEKENDS OR LIKE THEY THEY WILL NOT HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE TO THE PARK. THEY ARE ONLY REQUESTING THE PAVILION AND THEN THAT FOOD TRUCK OVER THERE. SO THE PARK WILL STAY OPEN AND OTHERS CAN, YOU KNOW, STILL ENJOY THE PARK. WE CAN'T. SO KIDS CAN SEE IT. WE CAN'T KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THE PARK. YEAH, PROBABLY A GOOD. HOW ABOUT THE PICNIC SHELTERS? THEY WERE THERE. RENT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE RENTING. THAT'S WHAT HE MEANT BY PAVILION. SO THEY ARE GOING TO RENT THE SHELTERS. THE SHELTERS. THEY AREN'T RENTED ALREADY? NO. THEY THEY CALLED IN TIME BEFORE THEY WERE RENTED.

AND WE DID BLOCK IT IN CASE WE'LL OPEN IT IF IT'S IF IT'S NOT APPROVED. SO. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I SECOND IT JUST DISCUSSION ON THIS. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DISCUSSION OR CLARIFICATION ON THIS. SO CLEANING IS THAT SOMETHING SUPERINTENDENT ROBBINS IS ABLE TO FOLLOW UP ON. AND THEN JUST HAND WASHING STATIONS. I COULD SEE KIDS WANTING TO RUN UP THERE AND PARENTS. YEAH, PROBABLY THEY COULD HAVE BOTTLES OF THAT. AND WE DID THAT WITH THE ANIMAL PETTING ZOO. THEY HAD HAND WASHING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A CLARIFICATION. LIKE IT'S YEAH, I MEAN, SO YOU'RE DOING AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE HAND WASHING STATIONS LIKE THEY DID AT THE COURTHOUSE. WELL, THAT'S UP TO HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SETTING THAT UP. YEAH. RIGHT. I MEAN, HE, HE SEEMED TO HAVE IT ALL. PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I MEAN, IT'S YOUR MOTION.

YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S A THERE'S A BATHROOM THERE TO GO WASH HANDS. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT EXTRA HAND WASHING STATIONS, WE PROVIDE AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, WE GAVE BIG BOTTLES OF DISINFECTANT. YEAH. SO KIDS WERE PETTING THE HORSES AND STUFF. THEY. YEAH. THESE ARE ALL THINGS I CAN REQUEST THAT THEY PROVIDE. OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY. I'M COMFORTABLE. YEAH. WHAT DO WE GOT? WE GOT A MOTION. WE GOT A SECOND, I SECONDED IT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES. OKAY, THEN OUR LAST EVENT, YOU GOT TWO. THIS IS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TORCH RUN. THE

[6. Law Enforcement Torch Run- New Events]

THEY WILL ORGANIZE THEIR OWN FORCE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK INTERSECTIONS SAID IT'S GOING TO THEY'RE THERE. THEY'LL BE MOVING THROUGH THE ROUTE WITH LESS THAN 15 MINUTES. SO IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT SINCE THEY'RE USING A ROUTE, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, CLASSIFY IT AS AN EVENT AND JUST MAKE SURE. YEAH. AND IT'S ON A FRIDAY, WHICH I WAS SURPRISED. YEAH. DID I HAVE THE TIME? DID I HAVE THE TIME IN HERE. SO NO, I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THERE. I CAN'T YEAH. WE HAD THE WE HAD THE RAGNAR RELAYS THROUGH LOWELL PARK EVERY YEAR. AND THAT WAS WE WE DO THAT EVERY YEAR STILL. YEAH. THAT'S PART OF THE EVENTS. WELL, THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT BEING APPROVED. IF IT'S A AN EVENT THAT HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN THROUGH AND THERE'S NO CONTRACT TO IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL. WE JUST APPROVE THEM. THAT'S THE NEW PROCESS. SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS VERY LITTLE IMPACT TO WHERE THEY AREN'T EVEN ASKING FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL OR ANYTHING. SO. WHERE DID WHERE DID THEY RUN IN

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LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE. THEY ARE RUNNING DOWN MAIN STREET. BUT THEN THEY'RE COMING DOWN THROUGH THE PARK IN LOWELL THERE. OKAY. SO AND SO DO THEY HAVE TO GET ANYBODY ELSE'S APPROVAL? YEAH. COUNTY FOR THE COUNTY DID ALREADY APPROVE IT. THE COUNTY DID. ALREADY APPROVED IT FOR THEM IN THE STATE. YEAH. THE STATE ALREADY DID. SORRY. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY.

SO I DID GET THAT PERMIT ALREADY. THEY GOT PUSHED THAT THROUGH RIGHT AWAY. SO. THIS REALLY HAS NO IMPACT OTHER THAN THE SPEECH. NO, THIS IS THIS IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN ANY OF THOSE OTHER ONES. YEAH. MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION DAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE AYE AYE. OH THAT'S RIGHT. YOU DO NOT NEED TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE YOU WORK FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY. YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. SO YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS MANY TIMES. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ABSTAIN. I'M JUST GOING TO DO IT JUST TO ASK THAT QUESTION. HE'S PRACTICING. YEAH, WE'LL DO IT FOR. FOR SORRY, THE GOVERNOR'S FISHING. NO. FOR THE COMMISSION TRAINING REMINDER. I HAVE THAT LATER. DON'T JUMP THE GUN HERE. WE HAVE THE VETERANS. YEP. SO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL

[2. Stillwater Veterans Memorial Plaque Request]

THEY'RE PROVIDING IT, THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THE MAINTENANCE GOING FORWARD, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR APPROVAL TO GET THIS INSTALLED, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE THE PEACE BOWL THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOWN AT LUMBERJACK. THEY THEY'D LIKE THIS TO BE PART OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, MEMORIAL DISPLAY. AND I THINK YOU ALL PROBABLY COULD HAVE READ IT BEFORE, BUT THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE THAT SIDE OF IT, WHAT WHAT IT SAYS AND EVERYTHING. I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THEY WOULD NEED PERMISSION FROM THE CITY TO DO SOMETHING. WE ALREADY GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO DO THIS. YEAH. WELL, THEY APPROACHED ME.

I WASN'T GOING TO JUST PUT SOMETHING IN OUR PARK WITHOUT. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THE COMMISSION. BUT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL IS NOT A PARK AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. OUR PARKING LOT. SIGN THAT SAYS PARKING. ANYWAY, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL TO INSTALL THIS. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, THE MEMORIAL'S OVER THERE, THESE PLAQUES AROUND THAT WHOLE THING, IS THERE JUST A BLANK. IT WILL JUST GO ON THE SAME THING. NO, IT'LL BE ON ITS OWN POLE. THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT OVER OFF TO THE WEST OF WHERE THAT IS. AND THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE AREA. WE HAVE SOME LANDSCAPING STUFF. IT'LL BASICALLY BE AROUND THE EDGE OF ALL THAT OVER ON JUST LIKE KIND OF ON THE SIDE. YEAH. ON A POLE. YEP.

OKAY. WHO'S REQUESTING THIS? THEIR COMMITTEE, SCOTT MEARS WAS PIONEERING IT. OKAY. IS MIKE GONNA LIKE THE LOCATION? NO, I, I THE REASON I ASK IS THEY CAME TO US ONE TIME AND THEY WANTED US TO CHANGE THE ASPHALT ON THE PARKING LOT TO RED FOR BLOOD AND THIS AND THAT.

AND THEY SAID, BUT WHAT? WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT THIS HERE BECAUSE, I MEAN, LOOKING OUT FOR YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY IS WE HAVE A WE HAVE A. OUR YELLOW RIBBON PROGRAM FOR THE FOR THE CITY IS TO SUPPORT THE VETERANS. AND THE CITY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB SUPPORTING THE VETERANS. PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING TO HONOR THE SERVICE MEMBERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHAT THEY'VE DONE. ACTUALLY, AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I THINK OF THE MONUMENT WE HAVE AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE. IT'S PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE IF THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE THAN HERE, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. SO DO WE NEED A SITE PLAN OR ANYTHING, OR IS JUST IT'S KIND OF A I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE THEY'RE PLACING IT. I MEAN, IT'S IN A IT'S A GOOD PLACE. IT'S IN A GOOD SPOT. IT'LL BE TASTEFUL.

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[7. Staff Updates (no packet materials)]

AND IT'S LIKE THE THREE GROUPS REALLY IS STILL. THE CITY OF STILLWATER RUNS THE BUILDING.

THE NATIONAL PARKS RUNS THE VISITORS AS THEY COME IN. WILD RIVER RUNS THE PROGRAMING.

WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND THEN THE QUESTION IS WITH THE CITY IS HOW MUCH PROGRAMING WILL. AND THEY'RE GETTING A GRANT, RIGHT. WILD RIVER, WILD RIVER IS GETTING A GRANT FOR PROGRAMING, I THINK FOR 900, SOME THOUSAND OR 1.5 MILLION OR SOMETHING. SO WE'RE KIND OF WAITING HEAR, HEAR FROM THEM WHAT KIND OF PROGRAM THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT ON. AND THEN WE'LL ALSO WITH THE LEFTOVER TIME, WE CAN ALSO HAVE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, RESERVE SOME SPACE. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. BUT THEY'RE KIND OF THESE, THEY'LL BE SETTING IT UP AND THEN WE COULD KIND OF FILL IT IN IF WE NEED, IF WE NEED TO, OR WE HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PUT SHOWS ON OR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. SO, AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF KIND OF THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND EVERYTHING WAS PRETTY CLEAR WHO DID WHAT. AND THEY WERE ALSO WORKING ON THAT IN THE DAY I WAS THERE. SO I WAS PRETTY IMPRESSED BY THE GROUP OF PEOPLE. MEGAN. I TALKED TO MEGAN AFTER HER, HER, HER DAY THERE, AND SHE WAS JUST SAYING IT WAS REALLY HIGH LEVEL WHAT WAS HAPPENING THE FIRST DAY THERE. AND WE GOT IN THE NITTY GRITTY THE SECOND DAY THERE AND IT WENT ALL DAY. IT WAS LIKE ALL DAY. IT'S KIND OF LIKE EXHAUSTED. BY THE TIME I GOT HOME, I WAS READY TO GO HOME. YEAH, RIGHT. IT WAS IT WAS A DAY AND A HALF FULL DAY

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AND, AND THEY HAVE WHAT ALL THEY PLAN THE PROGRAMS AND, AND IF WE'RE WORKING WITH THE LCCMR AT THE STATE, THE SALES TAX MONEY OR THE. YEAH, THE SALES TAX OF ASKING FOR A GRANT TO GET THAT APPROVAL TO GET HIRE SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO COORDINATE THE OPERATION OF IT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AS A CITY, BUT WE STILL HAVE A SAY IN WHAT GOES ON THERE. THE SIGNAGE WAS KIND OF THIS KIND OF LET'S COORDINATE ALL THE SIGNS. SO IT'S LIKE, YOU CAN HAVE TOO MANY SIGNS WHEN NOBODY READS ANY OF THEM, OR NOT ENOUGH SIGNS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE STUFF IS. SO HAVING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF SIGNS AND THEY RECOMMENDED GOING UP TO OSCEOLA, THE PARK RIGHT BY THE RIVER. AND I REMEMBER BEING UP THERE AND NOTICING THE SIGNS BECAUSE I READ THE SIGNS THERE, BUT THEY HAVE A NICE SIGNAGE IN OSCEOLA, AND WHEN YOU GO, YOU KIND OF GO DOWN OSCEOLA. THERE'S A LITTLE PARK BY THE RIVER, AND THEN YOU GO BACK UP TO OSCEOLA. SO THAT RIGHT IN THAT PARK, THEY HAVE SOME NICE SIGNAGE AND YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT. SO AND THEY'RE DOING THINGS, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THINGS LIKE A BIG THING BACK IN THE 80S AND 90S WAS BOAT RIDES ON THE RIVER WITH A PONTOON BOAT, A NATURE PROGRAM, OR ON THE RIVER AND THE SAINT CROIX. AND THEY DO A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF THE SAINT CROIX. AND LIKE RUNNING A KAYAK PROGRAM, KAYAK WITH A RANGER OUT ON THE RIVER. SO THEY WANT TO USE THIS KIND OF AS A GATEWAY INTO THE NATIONAL PARK OR THE NATIONAL RECREATION AREA OR WHATEVER IT IS. THERE'S NOTHING ON THIS END.

SO PEOPLE WANT TO I DIDN'T REALIZE GETTING YOUR STAMP OR WHATEVER IS SUCH A BIG DEAL.

YEAH, YOU GET YOU GET A PASSPORT, KIND OF LIKE, AND THEN YOU GET A STAMP AT EACH PLACE. YEAH, YEAH. SO PEOPLE, PEOPLE JUST TRAVEL AROUND TO GET THEIR STAMP, GET THEIR STAMP. SO PEOPLE WILL BE COMING HERE FOR THAT STAMP. YEAH. I ALSO LIKE CRAIG AND HIS COMMENT.

WELL, WE KNOW HOW TO DO, WE KNOW HOW TO DO CAMPFIRES. SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HAVING CAMPFIRES OUT THERE. PROGRAMS OUT THERE AROUND, AROUND A CAMPFIRE, AROUND CAMPFIRES AT NIGHT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I MEAN, WHAT A, WHAT A BETTER LOCATION TO SIT OUT THERE. YEAH. AND THEIR POTENTIAL PROPOSALS, THEIR OPPORTUNITIES TO INCLUDE LIKE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OR COLLEGE AGE STUDENTS AS LIKE, YEAH, PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN WORK WITH THEM. YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE YOUR PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVING KIDS HELP, YOU KNOW, DO THINGS AND VOLUNTEER OR WHATEVER TO SEASONAL RANGER PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT OR, YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH. AND THE ONE THING THAT HELPED CHAD OUT IS THEY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL PARKS HAVE A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS THAT COME AND HELP, YOU KNOW, CLEAN UP AND DO SOME STUFF. SO WE JUST HAVE TO PLAN IT ENOUGH IN ADVANCE SO THEY CAN GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT. SO THAT WAS KIND OF COOL. ALSO THE BRUSHING THE TRAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND CLEAN THEM UP. YEAH, IT COULD BE A WIN WIN FOR THE CITY. BUT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A CLEAR DIFFERENTIATION THAT STILLWATER OWNS THE BUILDING AND THEN HOW WE OPERATE IT TO HELP US WITH THE OPERATIONS. SO IN TERMS OF THE OPERATIONS IS LIKE, RIGHT, THE ROTARY PULL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, HOW THE WHAT'S THE SUBCOMMITTEE RELATIONSHIP WITH PARKS, WILD RIVER? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS FAR AS OUR SUBCOMMITTEE? YEAH, JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT LIKE HOW THOSE LIKE, WHAT'S THE SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE OPERATIONS OF THAT LOCATION IN TERMS OF WHO'S MAKING DECISIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS? IF OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE THE BUILDING FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, LIKE THE LIBRARY OR WHATEVER ELSE WE'RE LOOKING AT SETTING THAT UP, WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOT THAT FAR YET, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE I MEAN, THE PROGRAMMER, THE THREE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY NATIONAL PARKS AND, AND WILD RIVER WOULD HAVE THAT COORDINATOR WHO WOULD SAY, YEAH, IT'S AVAILABLE ON THIS DATE.

YOU CAN HAVE IT. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A CALENDAR, HAVE A CALENDAR SET UP THAT EVERYBODY CAN GET ON AND DO THIS, AND THEY CAN DO THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO DECIDE ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW FOR RENTALS IN THERE IN THAT BUILDING. AND YEAH, IN THE POOL AREA, THE WEATHER, THE OLD. YEAH, SOME OF THE POLICIES IS WHO GETS TO RENT IT AND RIGHT FOR WHAT. RIGHT. WE'RE

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SO WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE. WE GOT THESE DISH. WE BOUGHT A DISH. NOW WE WORKED WITH GETTING TWO DISHES AND WE'RE GOING TO SEND THE SIGNAL TO VALLEY ACCESS. SO WE'RE GOING

[01:10:04]

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET MUSIC TO EVERYBODY THAT WAS, AND MAKE IT MORE SPECIAL FOR PEOPLE. ARE THEY DOING THE BANDSHELL AGAIN, THIS I MEAN, YEAH, AND THE STAGE THIS. DOING BOTH. YEAH. I'M WORKING ON A DEAL. WHEN I HAD MY SURGERY, I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND I MET THIS ONE OF THE NURSES IN THE HOSPITAL AND FOUND OUT HE WAS A BACKUP SINGER FOR WHITNEY HOUSTON. AND WE ALWAYS, AND WE ALWAYS USE WE ALWAYS USE THE WHITNEY HOUSTON VERSION OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. SO HE WAS THE BACKUP SINGER FOR WHITNEY HOUSTON, AND HE MOVED TO STILLWATER AND HE LIVES IN STILLWATER. WHAT A PERFECT THING TO HAVE HIM SING INTO THE MICROPHONE WITH WHITNEY HOUSTON. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S TOO RECEPTIVE, BUT I WORKED ON HIM THE WHOLE NIGHT IN THE HOSPITAL. NICE GUY. HE WAS REALLY A NICE GUY. BUT WHAT'S THE ODDS OF HAVING WHITNEY HOUSTON'S BACKUP SINGER LIVING IN STILLWATER? YEP. OKAY, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, ALL THE PARKS ARE OPEN, THE BATHROOMS ARE ALL SET. SO WE'RE GOING FULL, YOU KNOW, FULL STEAM AHEAD HERE IN THE PARKS. WE DID COMPLETE THE PLAYGROUNDS ALREADY IN SCHULENBURG AND BENSON, WAITING FOR IT TO DRY OUT HERE TO KIND OF DO THE FINAL GRADE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THEY'RE INSTALLED AND THEY LOOK REALLY GOOD, EXCITED ABOUT THOSE.

SARAH DID HAVE OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN READY FOR TO COME TONIGHT. SEAN IS HE'S GONE A COUPLE WEEKS HERE OUT OF RESPECT TO HIM. I WANTED HIM TO SEE IT BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT IT HERE. SO PUSHING IT BACK A LITTLE BIT WON'T HURT ANY OF OUR TIMING. SO WE'LL STILL BE ON ON SCHEDULE THERE, BUT WE'LL GET THAT NEXT MONTH AND BRING IT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND ALL THAT. AND SO LOOK, BE LOOKING FOR THAT. A LOT OF INFO IN IT, OBVIOUSLY. SO OTHER THAN THAT, THE SKATE PARK EXCEL'S STILL DOING A LITTLE CLEANUP THERE. BUT ONCE THEY'RE COMPLETED, WE DID GET APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THE BUILDING AND ALL THAT. SO WE WERE FIRST ON THEIR LIST, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH A FEW STEPS HERE WITH THIS CLEANUP. SO WE PUSHED US BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY'RE JUST AS SOON AS WE'RE READY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE READY TO START. SO IT MAY BE A LITTLE LATER THAN JULY LIKE WE HOPE. BUT AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THEM GOING, WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT PARK GOING. SO I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THAT BUILT YOU TOO, RIGHT? MIKE? CAN'T WAIT. BUT IT'S BEEN A, YOU KNOW, A PROCESS TO GET HERE.

SO I THINK IT'LL BE REAL NICE ONCE WE GET IT DONE. SO THAT NICE COUNCIL APPROVED ANOTHER $20,000 BECAUSE OF THE MITIGATION OF THE SITE UP THERE. YEAH. TURNED INTO A BIGGER PROJECT THAN ORIGINALLY HOPED FOR. YOU MADE STILLWATER MORE BEAUTIFUL AND CLEANER BY CLEANING IT UP, DIDN'T YOU? YEAH, WE DIDN'T CLEAN IT UP. WE ENDED UP PAYING MORE TO DO THE SKATE PARK. YOU STILL VOTED FOR IT? YES. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR ME. THAT'S REALLY ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE GOING HERE. OH WE DID. WE ARE LOSING A A PARKS EMPLOYEE. HE PUT IN HIS NOTICE. SO WE WILL BE POSTING FOR PARKS OPENING HERE. SO IF YOU HAVE GOOD APPLICANTS SEND THEM OUR WAY. MY WAY IT IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. PRETTY EASY TO FIND AND NAVIGATE. SO IS IT POSTED YET? IT SHOULD BE IN THE MORNING. FIRST THING HE GAVE NOTICE FRIDAY. TALKED TO STAFF TODAY AND THEY'LL HAVE IT UP BY TOMORROW. SO BUSY TIME OF YEAR TO BE LOSING SOMEBODY, BUT WE'LL GET THERE. SPEAKING OF STAFF, ARE YOU STARTING DISCUSSIONS ON STAFFING FOR THESE NEW PARKS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE? RIVERFRONT PARKS. YEP. IN IN OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN, THERE IS A CALL FOR TO ADD A, I THINK POSSIBLY TWO ONE FOR SURE, I THINK IS GOING TO BE ASKED OF 27 AND THEN MAYBE ONE MORE AFTER THAT DEFINITELY IS GOING TO THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED.

FOR THE EASY BIT OUT THAT HOUSE, THE SHODDY MILL. YET IT IS OUT. YEAH, IT'S OUT FOR BID RIGHT

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