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          AND REC COMMISSION. SEPTEMBER 28TH AT 7 P.M. ROLL CALL. CHEROKEE HERE. COMMISSIONER MANIACI HERE. COMMISSIONER MCSWAIN. COMMISSIONER LEHMAN HERE. COMMISSIONER. RIGHT HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. PAULINA. HERE WE HAVE. COMMISSIONER HABILIS WILL BE HERE ABOUT TEN MINUTES LATE. AND. COMMISSIONER. JOHN LEBLANC. YES. SHE WILL NOT MAKE IT TONIGHT. SHE'LL NOT MAKE IT. 
          [III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NOPE. YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES. ANY CHANGES? CORRECTIONS, MOTION. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU. KEEPING THAT? OPEN FORUM, I SEE. UNLESS YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THEM. YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AT ALL? OH, I'M OBSERVING FOR A SCHOOL PROJECT. MY NAME IS TORI. NICE TO HAVE YOU, TORI. I'M SAWYER, AND I'M MORAL SUPPORT FOR HER. HAVE YOU HERE TONIGHT? PRESENTATION? NONE TONIGHT. 
          [2. Lumberjack Landing Guiding Document]
OKAY. OUR LUMBERJACK LANDING DOCUMENT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT, SO AFTER THE LAST TIME WE WENT THROUGH THIS, YOU BOTH WERE PART OF THIS, CORRECT? WAS. IS ANDREW THE THIRD? NO. THE THREE OF YOU WERE AROUND? YES. FIRST ROUND. ELIZABETH TOOK OUR FEEDBACK FROM OUR MEETING AND CAME BACK WITH A SECOND VERSION AND ADDED THINGS. SHE THOUGHT THAT WE, THE COMMISSION WAS LOOKING FOR. SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF LOOKING FOR SHE WANTS TO GET IT INTO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL. SO YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH. WHEN WE SAY LUMBERJACK LANDING, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE PARK OR THE BUILDING? BECAUSE THAT INDICATES BUILDING. IN MY HEAD IT WAS THE PARK, LIKE THE WHOLE THING, THE ENTIRE BUILDING. YES, I DO KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. SO I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE MEAN BY LUMBERJACK LANDING. I THINK IT'S THE WHOLE PARK. 
          RIGHT? CORRECT. THIS IS THE WHOLE PARK. YES. WELL, I AGREE, WE MAKE SURE IT'S ALL DEFINED. 
          IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BUILDING. YEAH. SO I'LL HAVE TO I'LL HAVE HER NOTE THAT. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION OF WHO RUNS WHAT. SO WE HAVE THE WHOLE PARK. BUT THEN THE CITY IS MAINTAINING THE BUILDING. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF END PEOPLE WOULD CAN GO TO THE PARK ANYTIME. AND THE BUILDING IS WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH PROGRAMING. SO THIS DOCUMENT IS SPECIFIC TO THE BUILDING. I DON'T THINK IT IS, BUT I'M JUST THAT'S WHAT I READ WHEN SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING. SO WE SHOULD CLARIFY CLARIFY FOR THIS DOCUMENT. GOOD POINT. OKAY. 
          MAKES SENSE. AND WE TRY TO DEFINE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT IN THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE MEETING WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND THE WILD RIVER CONSERVANCY. SO WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT. AND THEN THIS IS GOING TO BASICALLY DEFINE TAKE THAT FURTHER. YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T WANT EVERYBODY USING THAT BUILDING JUST TO USE THE BUILDING AND OPEN IT UP AT ALL TIMES. BUT WE MIGHT OPEN UP PART OF IT FOR THE BATHROOMS OR WHATEVER ON A WEEKEND OR WHATEVER. YEAH. I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO FOCUS ON WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LUMBERJACK LANDING, NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING, BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY'S GOT LIKE SO MUCH MORE TO OFFER. AND I HEAR PEOPLE SAY, AND THIS CAME UP WITH THE MEETINGS WITH THE PARK SERVICE, LIKE, OH, WELL, YOU GOT TO LIKE WALK SO FAR FROM THE PARKING LOT TO GET TO LUMBERJACK LANDING. AND IT'S LIKE, NO, LUMBERJACK LANDING GOES LIKE PRETTY MUCH TO THE PARKING LOT. IT'S LIKE A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY AND IT STARTS THERE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO NOT EQUATE THE BUILDING WITH THE PARK BUILDING. IT'S JUST ONE FEATURE IN THE PARK. 
          IT'S GOT A LOT MORE TO OFFER. THAT WAS A GOOD YEAH, I THINK WHEN, WHEN WHAT ARE YOU WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO DEFINING THE BUILDING OR THE WHOLE PARK? AND I THINK THIS IS KIND OF DOING THE WHOLE PARK, BUT IT DOES SOME OF THE BUILDING A COUPLE TIMES. SO I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO. THE QUESTION IS, DO WE NEED TO SEE THIS DOCUMENT? IF SHE JUST CHANGES THAT ONE WORD OR SHE CAN MOVE IT ON TO COUNCIL FOR US, I'M OKAY. MOVING ON. THE COUNCIL JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DEFINED IN THERE THAT WE'RE TALKING BASICALLY ABOUT THE BUILDING NOW. YEAH. 
          BUT THE WHOLE PARK IS KIND OF MENTIONED IN HERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE PURPOSE AND THE MISSION AND THE VISION, THAT'S ABOUT THE PERK. YEAH. NOT JUST THE BUILDING, RIGHT. BUT THEN LATER ON, YOU'RE SAYING IT KIND OF TALKS ABOUT JUST THE BUILDING HERE. IT TALKS ABOUT THE BUILDING AND UP ABOVE IT PUTS IN PARENTHESES WHY THE BUILDING IS THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT. AND SHE SHOULD DEFINE THAT IN THERE. AND WHAT THIS IS BECAUSE WE 
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KNOW YOU'RE GOOD. GOOD POINT. BECAUSE LOOKING AT THE BUILDING VERSUS THE PARK. SO PART OF THIS IS PARK AND PART OF IT'S THE BUILDING, BUT IT SHOULD MAKE SURE IT'S CLEARLY DEFINED. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT IS. YEAH. LUMBERJACK LANDING IS LOCATED WITHIN A CITY PARK. YEAH. IN THIS DOCUMENT. THAT'S NOT SO I THINK SHE'S THINKING LUMBERJACK LANDING IS THE HOUSE RIGHT. 
          VERSUS THE ENTIRE. BUT WE NEED TO DEFINE THAT HOUSE. AND THAT BRINGS UP A POINT OF WHAT DO WE NAME THE HOUSE? WILL HOUSE BOTH THE EQUAL HOUSE. I'M GETTING PRESSURE ON THAT. BUT YEAH, BUT I THINK YOU GOT A GOOD POINT, THOUGH. WE SHOULD DEFINE THE HOUSE AND THE PARK. AND THE HOUSE IS JUST A FEATURE IN THE PARK. GOT THAT RIGHT. THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD POINT. SO RELATED TO THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE A MAP OR NOT, BUT LIKE I THINK ABOUT IF YOU RENT THE SPACE INSIDE THAT BUILDING, LIKE WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE, THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT EVENT, LIKE, BECAUSE THE OUTSIDE IS JUST AS AWESOME OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO LIKE, IS A PARK USE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAPPEN? LIKE IF I VISIT THE PARK AND I GO TO THE PATIO, IS THAT LIKE PART OF THE OPEN PUBLIC AREA OR IS THAT PART OF THE EVENT? SO I DON'T KNOW IF A MAP, I DON'T KNOW, IT KIND OF GETS AT YOUR QUESTION. IT'S KIND OF LIKE TEDDY BEAR PARK BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT BUILDING IN TEDDY BEAR PARK. SO IT'S THAT BUILDING AND TEDDY BEAR PARK YOU CAN RENT. BUT ACTUALLY PART OF THAT PARK IS OPEN JUST FOR THE BATHROOMS. YEAH. BUT BUT THE BUT THE MEETING SPACE IN TEDDY BEAR PARK, YOU HAVE TO RENT THAT. BUT THEN THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YOU GETTING ALL THIS FROGGY. THAT'S GOT TO BE CLEAR TO THE RENTERS TOO, THAT IT'S STILL OPEN. LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU RENTING AND. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. AND DEFINE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE RENTING. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO DO? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO GET AT HERE. BECAUSE IF WE BUILD A, IF WE DO A FIRE RING, I'D STILL LIKE TO DO A FIRE RING NORTH OF THE HOUSE THERE. SO CAN ANYBODY USE THE FIRE RING OR DO YOU HAVE TO RENT THE HOUSE TO USE THE FIRE RING? OR IF THE HOUSE IS USED, CAN YOU JUST USE IT? SO. WELL, THAT NEEDS TO BE DEFINED. AND. WELL, IF YOU RENT, I MEAN, IF YOU DO THE CANOE RENTAL OR THE KAYAK RENTAL OR WHATEVER YOU DO THERE. BUT YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE EXCLUSIVE, YOU DON'T HAVE EXCLUSIVE USE. BUT IF YOU'RE PART OF THE PROGRAM, YOU CAN USE IT OR YOU'RE DEFINING WHEN YOU CAN USE IT. SO CAN YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WANTED TO GO DOWN THERE AND GO ROWING WHEN THEY HAVE CANOEING FOR THE PUBLIC. CAN YOU DO THAT? AND I, I WOULD SAY YES. IN, IN ALL THE PARKS, LIKE, SAY PIONEER, IF WE HAVE A BIRTHDAY RENTAL AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE PAVILION THERE, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T TELL EVERYONE ELSE THEY CAN'T COME. 
          SO IT'S ALL OPEN TO EVERYONE. THEY JUST MIGHT HAVE ACCESS TO A FEW MORE THINGS, OBVIOUSLY. 
          HERE I THOUGHT I THOUGHT THEY DID A GREAT JOB PUTTING THIS TOGETHER UNTIL YOU BROUGHT ALL THESE. WHILE YOU'RE ON THE COMMITTEE. I THINK SOME OF IT WAS ADDED. LIKE I THINK SHE DID ADD, I REMEMBER THAT FROM LAST TIME AND THAT'S WHERE IT STOOD OUT. SHE DID. SHE'S BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THOSE MEETINGS YOU GUYS ARE USING DOING. YEAH, THAT AND SHE DID LISTEN TO EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT IN HERE. SHE WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE VIDEO. AND HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD THEN? DO YOU WANT TO SEE THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, MORE CLEAR IN THE WRITING OR I'M. YEAH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU. I MEAN, I IF YOU WANT TO PUT A MOTION WITH THAT INCLUDED, OR DO WE WANT TO I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S STILL TIME. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER THING MOVING THAT FAST. YEAH. SO WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN BRING IT BACK. SO IT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE. SO OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE THE FORMAT HOW SHE DID THIS. I THOUGHT THE FORMAT. YEAH. I REALLY LIKE HOW FORMAT LOOKS NICE. BUT YOU NEEDED A CLEAR DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE PARK. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY SAW. WAS THE LEVEL THREE BETTER? I KNOW THAT WE HAD A LITTLE KIND OF ISSUES WITH THAT LAST TIME. I THOUGHT IT LOOKED GOOD. YEAH, I THOUGHT IT. YEAH. GOOD. PRETTY SORRY, BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          YOU LOOK AT THAT. IT BASICALLY THAT'S FOR THE HOUSE BUT IT'S NOT THE WHOLE PARK. SO SHE NEEDS. ARE WE GOING TO RENT OUT THE THE WHOLE PARK. PROBABLY NOT. IT'S PROBABLY A TEDDY BEAR PARK. WE RENT THE BUILDING. RIGHT. SO RIGHT. THAT'S APPROPRIATE. IT JUST NEEDS JUST NEEDS SOME TWEAKING. YEAH. PIONEER. WE HAVE OPEN SPACES, BUT THE OPEN SPACES ARE 
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BASICALLY SO YOU CAN RESERVE THEM FOR LIKE IF YOU HAVE THE BANDSHELL, THEN YOU HAVE THERE OR A WEDDING MIGHT WANT TO OPEN SPACE TO GO ALONG WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PICNIC TABLES. 
          SO MAYBE A LITTLE HARDER IN THIS AREA BECAUSE THEY'RE, THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY BIG WIDE OPEN SPACES. YOU KNOW, IT'S IN TREES AND TITERS. SO. DO WE WANT TO OFFER OPEN SPACES THAT WOULD BE THAT OUT OF SCOPE. YEAH. AND IF THAT ENDS UP BEING A PROBLEM WE CAN REVISIT IT. 
          BUT VERY TRUE. I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS IT WAS TO THE OPEN, THE OUTSIDE SPACE IN TERMS OF MAYBE THIS IS MORE LIKE MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS THE USE OF THAT BUILDING. BECAUSE THEN THE OTHER PART THAT I THINK THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ALSO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT'S OUR GUIDING VISION FOR WHAT THAT PLACE MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? LIKE ADDING A RING OR WHATEVER, ALL THOSE THINGS. YES. RIGHT. AND THAT THOSE THINGS ARE NOT DEFINED HERE AT ALL YET. AND I DON'T THINK THAT EVEN SETS US UP TO DO THAT, WHICH I THINK ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD COME BACK HERE ANYHOW UNDER OUR NORMAL PROCESS. THAT'S A GOOD POINT, THOUGH, BECAUSE THAT'S OUT OF SCOPE FOR THIS DOCUMENT. BUT MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT LIKE THE SIGNAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? SO AS THAT'S BEING PUT TOGETHER, IS IT OKAY, OKAY. IT IS BEING WORKING ON IT. I MEAN, THAT JUST SO THAT LET'S SAY THAT PIECE, I WAS WONDERING, IS IT ALICE WHO WOULD COME? I THINK IT WAS NANCY OR NANCY. NANCY, NANCY. YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT AS WELL PUT HER OFF UNTIL. I MEAN, IF SHE WANTS IT AT LUMBERJACK LANDING, THEN WE HAVE TO PUT HER OFF FOR A LONG TIME. IF SHE WANTS IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT. WELL, THERE IS ONE AT THE CO-OP. 
          THERE'S ALSO ONE AT RUTHERFORD. THERE'S ONE AT RUTHERFORD? YEAH, RIGHT HERE. IT'S THE CO-OP ONE. 
          IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE BUILDING. I SAW IT THERE THAT ONE DAY. IT'S LIKE THAT LITTLE PICNIC AREA WITH THE TABLES. OH, OKAY. I LOVE GARDEN BECAUSE THEY WANTED IT FOR THEIR THEY WANTED IT FOR THEIR BIKE RACE. IT'S DOWNTOWN. OKAY. AND THERE'S ALREADY ONE DOWNTOWN BY THE CO-OP. NO, THE SAME THING. I TOLD HER SHE'D BE REPLACED. IT'S I MEAN, IT'S OLD. I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN THEY PUT IT IN LIKE 30 YEARS AGO. WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION OF OLD? I'M OLD. YEAH. THAT'S MY GUESS FOR THE PANDEMIC IS MY DAUGHTER IN LAW. 
          THAT'S MY DAUGHTER IN LAW'S. YOU'RE OLD. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR PUTTING IN THE DONATION BENCHES AS WELL IN THAT AREA, PLUS THE SHODDY MILL AREA, YOU KNOW, ALONG TRAILS OR WHEREVER THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, WORK OUT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING, JUST THE SAME THING AS THE PEOPLE IN MY MIND. LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DETERMINE THOSE? AND THEY'VE BEEN PEOPLE WAITING FOR LIKE THREE YEARS FOR THIS TO COME THROUGH. SO. WELL, I JUST TELL YOU BEFORE THE COUNCIL VOTED IT DOWN BECAUSE HOW DO YOU WHY WOULD YOU GIVE PEACE SOMETHING? SO MAYBE A DEVIL WORSHIPER IS GOING TO COME IN HERE AND WANT TO THEIR POLL. THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION YEARS AGO. LIKE A COP OUT KIND OF DISCUSSION. NO, THE QUESTION WAS, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? AND I THINK IF THAT SECOND DOCUMENT IS BEING MADE, THAT'S A GREAT. YEAH. CAN YOU CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THE SECOND DOCUMENT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE? YEAH, I THINK WE NEED THAT. TELL AT HER OR TELL HER ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH BENCHES? BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST WORKING ON, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE SIGNAGE AND THE ARTWORK FOR THE BUILDING IS WHAT THEY'RE WORKING FOR, THE BUILDING, FOR THE BUILDING AND THE SIGNAGE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING TO WHO'S RESPONSIBLE TO DO IT. BUT THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET. 
          WELL, I THINK THAT AND YEAH, NATIONAL PARK SERVICE IS GOING TO DO THE SIGNAGE BECAUSE THEY HAVE. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING. WHO'S GOING TO DO WHAT. RIGHT. BUT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE GROUP AS A WHOLE. BUT THEY WERE TAKING THAT ON BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE ARTISTS AND STUFF AT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE TO DO ALL THE SIGNS AND WHATEVER WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER OUT THERE. SO SIGNS AND THE ARTWORK, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU'RE THINKING OF A MAP OF THE AREA INSIDE AND YOU'RE THINKING OF PICTURES OF INSIDE THE BUILDING, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING OF ARTWORK WOULD BE IF ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS REALLY GO UP TO TAYLOR'S FALLS AND LOOK AT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, AND YOU WOULD SEE KIND OF THE ARTWORK THEY HAVE ON THEIR WALLS, WHICH IS JUST BEAUTIFUL PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE RIVER AND MUSSELS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. 
          SO THE DOCUMENT THEY'RE WORKING ON, IS IT GOING TO TALK ABOUT IF SOMEBODY COMES ALONG NEXT YEAR AND WANTS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE ADD A SIGN OR ADD A PEACE POLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LIKE HOW THOSE THINGS WOULD HAPPEN. WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS WHAT WE NEED THEM TO DO IS DO THE, MAKE SURE THEY'RE PUTTING A DOCUMENT ALONG WITH WHAT THEY'RE. OKAY. THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED KIND OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE. AND I MISSED THE LAST MEETING. SO, BUT THE, THE USE, THE USAGE IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. SO NOW THAT WAS KIND OF THE LAST DISCUSSION IS THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING COMING UP NOW TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEM BE IN UTAH. OH. SO WHO'S GOING 
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TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING WHAT IS IT TRYING TO PUT OUT THE OBLIGATIONS IN MAKING THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO GO AND WHAT'S NOT GOING TO GO RIGHT? IS THERE OPPORTUNITIES? SO AS THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE IS THEY START GOING TO DO THOSE THINGS, IS THERE A WAY THAT THEY COULD EXTEND OPPORTUNITIES TO LIKE STUDENT APPRENTICES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO BE A PART OF THAT? LIKE, INSTEAD OF JUST LIKE FARMING IT OUT FOR THEM TO DO IT? IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE FROM OUR COMMUNITY BE A PART OF THAT GOOD IDEA? THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE UP THERE IS, I THINK THE SCHOOL KIDS DID SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS. IT WAS A SCHOOL PROJECT ACTUALLY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. LIKE, IS THERE A WAY TO CONNECT OUR SCHOOLS WITH THAT GIVEN THAT IT'S STILL OURS? WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT WE WOULD DO THAT. BUT IT'S JUST I THINK IT WAS ALL RIGHT. ALL ARTWORK AND PHOTOS. IT WAS WAS SCHOOL KIDS UP IN SAINT CROIX FALLS. YEAH, SURE. YEAH. OKAY. SO AND THAT WAS ALL DONE BY SCHOOL KIDS NEXT WEEK. I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD BE GOING. I HAVE TO REARRANGE EVEN HAVE CELL PHONE SERVICE. LET'S SEE IF I CAN REARRANGE SOME STUFF. I'LL. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUSH BACK MY MEETINGS. SO WHAT I'M HEARING, I'LL TAKE ALL THESE THINGS AND TALK WITH ELIZABETH, AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON THIS ANOTHER TIME AND BRING IT BACK NEXT MONTH, RIGHT? YEP. SOUNDS GOOD. GOOD. PLAYGROUNDS. OUR 
          [3. Playground Replacement- Prairie Park]
FAVORITE THING. SO AFTER WE HAD OUR MEETING OR AT THE TOUR AND WE KIND OF THOUGHT IT DIDN'T NEED TO BE REPLACED, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SAINT CROIX REC ABOUT LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE HIS OPINION ON THE CONDITIONS AND ALL THAT. AND HE AGREES IT IS IN GREAT CONDITION. 
          THE ONLY THING WE HAD FOUND IS I THINK THERE'S ONE LADDER OR SOMETHING THAT HE RECOMMENDED BEING REPLACED, AND HE DIDN'T GET ME A NUMBER ON THAT YET. BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A SIMPLE FIX. BUT THEN WE CAME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FEEDBACK WE HAD WAS ABOUT HOW THERE'S NO SHADE FOR THE, THE LITTLE ONES IN THIS AREA. SO WE KIND OF FIGURED WE CAN IN THE FOOTPRINT WE ALREADY HAVE, WE COULD REMOVE SOME OF THOSE ROCKERS AND WE CAN MAKE A, A YOUNGER AGE. THE 2 TO 5 AGE PLAY A SEPARATE PLAYGROUND FOR THIS ONE AND ADD A LOT OF SHADED, YOU KNOW, FEATURES TO IT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT I, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE KIND OF NEAT TO HAVE THEM PUT IT TOGETHER AND JUST HAVE THAT AS POSSIBLE OPTION. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE I, I THINK I MADE SOME BETTER ONES HERE, BUT HE GAVE ME THESE OPTIONS KIND OF THE, THE PRICING ON THEM. I'M NOT SURE WE'LL NEED THIS MUCH WOOD FIBER, BUT THAT'S KIND OF MINOR. BUT TO ADD ALL THIS, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE PRICE RANGES FROM ABOUT 48 TO 58, BUT THEN THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT FEATURES HERE. SO KIND OF A NEAT DESIGN AND EVERYTHING. SO THE STRUCTURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE, THE STRUCTURE WE SAW IS JUST BEHIND THAT WOMAN. NO, IT'S THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE LIKE WAY OVER IN THIS CORNER, OKAY. WHERE THOSE LITTLE ROCKERS WERE AND THE EXISTING ONE WAS HERE IN THE SWINGS WERE HERE. SO IT KIND OF BE IN THAT NORTHEAST CORNER ALL FIT OVER THERE. I DID TALK TO HIM ABOUT DOING LIKE A, SOME KIND OF GAZEBO STRUCTURE, AND HE REALLY THINKS FOR WHERE THE PARK SITS IN THE PLAYGROUND IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY BENEFIT OUT OF BUILDING THAT BECAUSE THE WAY THE SUN HITS, YOU WON'T GET THE SHADE DURING THE DAY IN THAT PARK. LIKE SO HE RECOMMEND YOU DO IT LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH THE PLAYGROUND HAVING THE SHADE FEATURES IN THEIR OWN. I WAS GOING TO DO THAT TO WHAT YOU HAVE. THIS IS ALL NEW, SO THE EXISTING WILL STAY HERE, THE SWINGS WILL STAY HERE. THIS IS GOING TO GET INSTALLED WAY IN THIS CORNER OVER HERE, THIS STRUCTURE. YEAH. OKAY. BUT YOU MIGHT DO IN GOOGLE MAPS. I KNOW I DON'T THINK THERE'S IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM. SO THIS IS WHERE IF THIS IS WHERE THOSE LITTLE THE LITTLE THINGS ARE. YEAH. 
          THOSE LITTLE SPRINGY ROCKERS. YEAH. YEAH. THOSE WILL ALL OKAY. YEAH. THOSE ALL COME UP. YEAH. 
          DO THEY DO THE PEOPLE AROUND THAT KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS JUST WE'RE NOT FOR SURE. 
          THIS IS JUST WE JUST HAVE TO GO BACK A FINAL PLAN OUT TO RESIDENTS TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN. 
          WE IF WE IF WE SAY, HEY, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. LET'S TRY ONE OF THESE THREE AND WE'LL THROW THESE BACK OUT TOWARDS THE RESIDENTS FOR THEM. I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT IF WE DO THAT, MAKE A NOTE OF WHAT WHERE IT IS, OF WHAT WOULD BE LEAVING SO THAT THEY CAN COMMENT. YEAH. 
          POTENTIALLY COMMENT. YEP. SO HERE'S JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT FIRST ONE THERE. I THINK IT'S JUST TWO THOSE TWO LITTLE THINGS. BUT I REMEMBER HERE'S A SECOND OPTION. JUST KIND OF MORE OF THE SAME. THE ONE THAT WAS DIFFERENT WAS THIS ONE'S KIND OF MORE LIKE A HUT AND A 
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HOUSE, WHICH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT PERFORATED METAL OR WHAT IS THE ROOFING ON THAT THAT I'M NOT SURE I'D HAVE TO ASK HIM WHAT IT'S BUILT ON. IF HE GAVE ME A WHOLE BIG PLAN, I DID NOT BRING THAT. PROBABLY IT LOOKS LIKE LUSH SHADE THAN THE OTHER ONE, BUT I THOUGHT SO TOO, BECAUSE HOW HIGH IT IS? YEAH, I THOUGHT SO. BECAUSE HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF IT. YEAH, LOOK AT ALL THE SUN BLASTING IN IT. YEAH. KIND OF UGLY TO MY MIND. 
          I MEAN, I LIKE THE FIRST ONE. LOOKS LIKE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING THOUGH, DOESN'T IT. 
          IT'S NOT UGLY. I'M JUST SAYING IT LOOKS LIKE IT. WHEN THEY BUILT IT, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO MATCH THE COLOR SCHEME TO THE CURRENT STRUCTURE? YES. SO IT KIND OF ALL LOOKS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO. YEP. OKAY. THAT'S KIND OF A FUN PART TOO. WHEN YOU GO AND DESIGN IT WITH THEM AND SIT DOWN AND THEY CAN MATCH IT ALL FOR SURE. AND I KIND OF THOUGHT HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT, BUT MAYBE HE DID THEM DIFFERENT COLORS. JUST SO IN YOUR MIND, HE KNEW THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS. BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS, THIS ONE HAS THE MOST SHADE. THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, NOT QUITE AS MUCH, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE MORE FEATURES TO IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. IF THIS IS A GOOD IDEA OR NOT WORTH IT, WE WILL STILL HAVE SOME BUDGET LEFT OVER, TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY THE MILLBROOK OPEN SPACE, DOING SOME, YOU KNOW, NATURE SCAPE THERE OR SOMETHING. I ASKED I ASKED YOU ACTUALLY THE COUNCILMAN FOR THAT MILLBROOK AREA TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS AFTER THAT GROUP CAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE IN THEIR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO I SAID, I WANT YOU TO COME TO US, SAY YOU WANT IT BEFORE WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW. I LIKE THE IDEA OF A LITTLER STRUCTURE. I LIKE THE FIRST TWO OPTIONS. I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THE THIRD. I THINK HE KIND OF JUST DID IT TO SHOW SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT. BUT THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE LIKE HOUSE ONE, THE HOUSE ONE BARN KIND OF LOOK, SO I'LL APPRECIATE THAT IT'S DIFFERENT. I WILL THROW IT OUT THAT KIDS DO LOVE THAT BECAUSE THEN THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S LIKE A LITTLE HOUSE AND THEN THEY THE IMAGINATION TAKES OVER OF IT BEING LIKE THEIR HOUSE TO PLAY IN. I JUST AGREE THAT IT DOESN'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH SHADE. I WONDER IF IT CAN BE SHORTENED. WHY IS IT WHY IS IT SO HARD? IT'S SO MUCH HIGHER. I WAS KIND OF NOTICING THAT AS WELL. PRICE OF KIDS CAN'T GET UP ON THE ROOF AND JUMP OFF. YEAH, IT'S PROBABLY THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IT'S A 2 TO 5 STRUCTURE. YEAH. WELL THAT'S A 2 TO 5 STRUCTURE. YEAH. THAT'S WAY TOO HIGH FOR 2 TO 5 YEAR OLDS. YEAH. WITH THEIR BIG BROTHERS WOULD COME AND CLAIM YEAH IT'LL IT'LL END UP BEING MORE THEY ALWAYS FIND A WAY. SO QUESTION ON NEXT STEPS HERE. SO I LIKE THE SEPARATION WITH THE 2 TO 5. I THINK I'M JUST QUESTIONING. I KNOW THIS IS WEIRD, BUT I'M JUST QUESTIONING ABOUT REPLACING ALL OF IT ALL AT ONCE AND RATHER DOING IT EARLY THAN LATE JUST FROM A, WHAT ARE THEY DOING LIKE, LIKE OLD NEW, I DON'T KNOW. SO I JUST LIKE KIND OF QUESTION THE TIMING OF IT. AND I'D ALMOST RATHER DO IT ALL. OR IS IT JUST DOING THIS? BUT I ALSO LIKE THIS AS LONG AS WE COMMUNICATE THAT VISION AND WE'RE LIKE, YEAH, THREE YEARS OR WHATEVER THE YEARS ARE LIKE WE'RE REPLACING THAT YEAR. YEAH. WHAT IS THAT YEAR AND WHEN ARE WE REPLACING IT? BECAUSE I COULD SEE IT GAINING A LOT OF QUESTIONS, LIKE, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? IT DOESN'T MATCH THAT WELL. AND IF WE HAVE THE BUDGET, LIKE PART OF ME IS LIKE, WELL, DO WE DO IT NOW? SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS PARK WITH COMMUNICATION ALL, ALL AGAIN. BUT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS TOO. I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUR THOUGHTS OUT TO THE GROUP ON KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD WAS AT. WELL, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO REPLACE IT AFTER 15 YEARS. THAT'S JUST A GUIDELINE. IT STILL MEETS ALL THE CPSC STANDARDS, SO WHY WOULD YOU JUST GET RID OF IT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO IF IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT IT'S A QUESTION OF GETTING THEM ON THE SAME CYCLE SO THAT CORRECT. I KNOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING, BUT IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET RID OF IT. I MEAN, IF THAT GOES INTO YOUR THOUGHT, IT STILL MEETS ALL THE STANDARDS, THEN YOU'RE FINE. BUT IF YOU DON'T, IT DOESN'T. THEN IT COULD BE TROUBLE. SO DO WE KNOW? SORRY. OH, I JUST HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION. SORRY. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, LIKE, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MORE YEARS THAT IS THOUGH? LIKE FOR THAT STANDARD, LIKE, YEAH, I KNOW, BUT WHAT'S THE STANDARDS IF THE STANDARDS ARE FOR FALL HEIGHTS, YOUR HEAD ENTRAPMENTS ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. THAT'S YOUR STANDARDS. SO IS THE SHELTER IN 
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GOOD SHAPE? I MEAN, IS IT ARE THE JOINTS ALL RUSTY AND FALLING APART OR IS IN GOOD SHAPE? I THINK IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE. THE YOU KNOW, THE OTHER IDEA IS TO DO NOT DO THIS YET EITHER. AND I SAW SOME JUST NICE WOODEN STRUCTURES IN MILWAUKEE AT THEIR PARK. 
          THERE'S JUST THESE BIG BLOCKS, KIND OF LIKE THEY WOULD WALK ON AND THEY WOULD BE, THEY WERE REALLY CLOSE TO THE GROUND. AND IT WOULD BE JUST KIND OF THESE COOL, LIKE WE WERE WANTING TO GET MORE LIKE NATURE. AND SO IT WAS THESE BEAMS, DIFFERENT BEAMS. AND YOU JUST PUT, YOU KNOW, 3 OR 4 OF THEM, BUT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TAKE PICTURES OF IT. I DID, YEAH, THE MANUFACTURER WAS, I DID GET THE MANUFACTURER, BUT THEY HAD A NICE, THEY HAD A NICE BRIDGE MARKED ON THE, ON THE BOARD BECAUSE IT'S THE OLD WARD WHERE IT WAS THE PARK NEAR THE OLD WARD IN MILWAUKEE, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS. BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY COOL. THAT IS A VERY SIMPLE THING. THAT IS WHAT THEY BROUGHT FOR MILLBROOK. IF YOU RECALL THAT PLAN, THEY BROUGHT THE PROBABLY TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO. MAYBE THAT'S THE CONCEPT THEY WERE THINKING FOR THE OTHER OPEN SPACE. I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM THEM. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANT TO OR THE PLACE YOU THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE IT, THE QUESTION IS, IS, I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST ASSUMING WOULD DOESN'T LAST AS LONG. AND THEN IF IT WOULD REPLACE THE WHOLE THING IN FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING, THEN WELL, THEY PRETTY MUCH DID AWAY WITH WOOD ONES BECAUSE THEY TREATED THE LUMBER WITH THAT ARSENIC AND THEY FOUND THE ARSENIC WAS NOT GOOD ON KIDS. AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVEN MAKE THEM OR ANYONE. I JUST, I JUST THAT'S WHY THEY RUN THE REASONS THEY DID AWAY WITH. THAT'S ONE REASON THEY DID AWAY WITH WOOD. 
          BUT THE ONE BY THE MISSISSIPPI. IT HAS ALL NEW WOOD. SO THEY MUST HAVE FOUND A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TREATMENT, DIFFERENT TREATMENT FOR IT. YEAH. YOU THINK WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS IT'LL LOOK IT'S KIND OF A. IT'S A BIG PARK, BUT IT'S KIND OF A PRIVATE. I MEAN, IT'S A PUBLIC PARK, BUT IT'S. DO A LOT OF PEOPLE VISIT IT? IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE YOU WENT OVER ON THIS PARK VERSUS. WELL, WE DID TALK. WE DID TALK ABOUT ADDING TO THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEING BUILT. PLUS WE'RE GETTING REQUESTS FROM THE TOWNHOMES FOR A PLAYGROUND IN THEIR LITTLE CIRCLE, WHICH THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I MEAN, IT'S JUST SIMPLE. YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE A HORSE JUMP KIND OF. SO THERE WAS THE THOUGHT, WHICH WOULD MAKE SENSE TO GO WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, DO YOU DO IT ALL? AND WE I MEAN, WE HAVE THE BUDGET THERE. IT'S IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT WE FEEL IS RIGHT TO DO. SO I JUST HATE TO WASTE SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD. I THINK IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT IF YOU DO THIS PART NOW, GIVING THAT AS LIKE A FOR SMALLER KIDS THAT IT MIGHT LAST THROUGH WHAT WOULD BE THE, THE NEXT THE NEXT TO THAT TIME BECAUSE OH THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. SO IT COULD ALMOST DOUBLE IT GO TWICE AS LONG BEFORE IT HAS TO GET REPLACED. SO WHEN THE BIGGER PART GETS REPLACED THEN THEY SYNC UP. YEAH. ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ONLY A FEW YEARS BEFORE THE BIG ONE GOES. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IS THERE A MOTION TO GO FORWARD OR WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO HERE? AND WE CAN TAKE MORE TIME TO THINK ON IT, TO LOCK INTO THE PRICES WE HAVE HERE. IT'S MID DECEMBER IS WHEN I HAVE TO LIKE GIVE THEM THE VERBAL. BUT IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN BY FALL, RIGHT. NO, IT'LL BE NEXT. IT'S NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. OH. TO SAVE MONEY. WE'VE BEEN GETTING THEM IN BY DECEMBER AND WE GET THE YEAR BEFORE PRICING. SO WITH NOT DOING TRIANGLE PARK AND WITH DOING A SMALLER PLAY STRUCTURE IN PRAIRIE, WHAT'S THE KIND OF GRAND TOTAL SAVINGS? SO WE'D BE SAVING ABOUT 100,000 BY DOING ONE OF THESE. BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE OTHER PARKS OUT THERE THAT COULD USE REPLACEMENTS MORE THAN PRAIRIE PARK? AFTER WE LOOKED AT THIS ON OUR TOUR, I WENT TO THE ONES THAT ARE HAVEN'T BEEN DONE AND THEY'RE ALL PRETTY GOOD. PRETTY GOOD. YEAH. SO I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT MILLBROOK. I MEAN, THERE'S ALSO THINGS WE LOOKED AT VARIETY. THERE'S THINGS LIKE OBSTACLE COURSES OR, YOU KNOW, JUST A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, SETUP MIGHT BE NEAT IN THAT AREA. YOU KNOW, IT'S A LONG OPEN AREA. AND, AND THEY HAVE THE NINJA WARRIOR COURSES, JUST DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU KNOW? YEAH. I QUESTION FOR YOU. JUST BACK TO COMMISSIONER HAVEL'S POINT ON THIS WILL DEPEND ON HOW I PUT THE MOTION. WHAT WILL 
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WE DO WITH THIS? IF WE HAVE A DECISION ON THIS, WOULD WE THEN SEND OUT POSTCARDS AGAIN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR WOULD IT BE A REACH OUT OR CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? SO WE DID IN THE LAST SO THE LAST TIME WE DID IT, WE DIDN'T SAY, HEY, COME BACK IN THE FALL AND LOOK AT OUR CHOICES. IN THE ORIGINAL POSTCARD, WE TOLD THEM THAT THERE WOULD BE IN THE FALL HERE SOME CHOICES FOR THEM TO MAKE SOME SELECTIONS ON SO WE WOULDN'T RESEND A POSTCARD, BUT THEN WE COULD REACH OUT TO THE HOA AND SOME, YOU KNOW, POST IT IN THE PARK AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING. SO THEY HAVE, THEY KNOW TO, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT THE OPTIONS. COULD ONE OF THE OPTIONS BE LETTING THEM KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IS STILL GOOD AND LIKE UP TO CODES AND STANDARDS. AND ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS WE JUST DON'T MAKE ANY CHANGES AT THIS TIME. AND WE PUSH IT OFF UNTIL A LATER DATE. THAT MAKES SENSE. WE COULD COMMENT ON THAT. YEAH. 
          BUT DOES IT MEET THE STANDARDS? DOES THERE WHEN YOU GO STARTING TO SAY CODES AND THAT TYPE OF. 
          WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS, BUT LIKE THAT IT'S STILL LIKE IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION AND THAT IT TECHNICALLY DOESN'T NEED REPLACEMENT AT THIS TIME. BUT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT, I MEAN, IS THAT CONSIDERED A 2 TO 5 YEAR OLD OR A 5 TO 12 YEAR OLD? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE EACH. SO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE YOUTH ONE FOR 2 TO 5, AND THEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONE 5 TO 12. AND THAT ONE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAS. IT'S NOT COMBINED. IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT. RIGHT. THE CURRENT ONE THAT'S THERE, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS ACTUALLY MEET THE STANDARDS, YOU NEED A 2 TO 5. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. OH, I DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE THE EXPERT. 
          I'M I'M NOT AN EXPERT. I'M HERE TO GIVE MY I'M RETIRED NOW, BUT I JUST, I JUST I WAS IN A BUILDING THESE STANDARDS YEARS AGO. YEAH. BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN FRUSTRATED WITH IN THE PAST IS THAT LIKE, WE TRY AND GET ALL THE STRUCTURES INTO ONE COMPLEX THING AND THEN THE LITTLE TYKES DON'T GET ENOUGH. AND THEN THE BIGGER KIDS DON'T GET SOMETHING BIG ENOUGH. CORRECT. AND SO I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO IT'S A NICE COMPROMISE. YEAH. WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THE PART THAT, YEAH, YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. IT'S THE DEMOGRAPHICS. I ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF DOSES AROUND ARE WE GOING. ARE THEY ALL AGING OR ARE THEY ALL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL FAMILIES ARE MOVING IN AND WE NEED SOMETHING FOR THE YOU GOT ME. I DON'T SEE A LOT OF TURNOVER OVER THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, TOWNHOMES COULD BE DIFFERENT. LIKE WE SAY, THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M NOT EVEN SURE THE PRICE POINT OVER THERE. YOU KNOW MIKE. I'M GUESSING THEY'RE PRETTY EXPENSIVE. CAN WE CAN WE TALK ABOUT JUST DESIGN ANY DESIGN CHANGES OR ITERATIONS WITH THE CURRENT TWO BEFORE WE DO A MOTION OPTION TWO AND ONE. IS IT EASIER TO LOOK AT THIS ONE OR DID YOU LIKE THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE PACKAGE? I LIKE THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE PACKAGE IN THE PACKET. IF I CAN GET THERE. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT SHOWS ALL THOSE LITTLE FEATURES. OH, COOL. AND SO WE'RE JUST SAYING THE COLORS WOULD MATCH. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I WOULDN'T LOOK AT COLORS RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO THAT WAS THE I THINK OPTION TWO ON THE OTHER SHEET. OPTION ONE IS IT. AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER ONE. THAT'S THE ONE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THE 2 TO 5. SO DOES THE EXISTING ONE HAVE THAT. WHAT IS THAT OFF TO THE LEFT THERE WHERE THEY KIND OF CHINNING BAR. 
          YEAH. MONKEY BAR. DOES IT HAVE THE EXISTING ONE. YEAH. I THINK IT THOUGHT IT LOOKED IT LOOKS FAMILIAR I DON'T. YEAH. THAT ONE'S DEFINITELY DIFFERENT. A LOT DIFFERENT. WHAT'S THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. AND HE DID HAVE A SPINNER JUST IN THIS DRAWING. THERE WAS A LITTLE A SMALLER SPINNER BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOKED WE THOUGHT THERE'D BE ENOUGH ROOM TO HAVE A. THE KIDS LOVED THOSE SPINNERS, YOU KNOW, SO A SMALLER ONE FOR YOUNGER KIDS. YOU MAKE THOSE DIGGERS ANYMORE. 
          THEY ALWAYS LIKE THOSE DIGGERS. YEAH, THERE WAS ONE THERE. THERE WASN'T RIGHT NOW. OKAY. 
          THERE IS ONE. THERE'S A DIGGER IN THE PARK. YEAH. KEEP THE DIGGER. KEEP THE DIGGER. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO JUST MOVE IT. THE SPRING TOYS, THOSE ARE. TROUBLE. CAN YOU GO TO THE SECOND ONE? THAT'S NICE ABOUT IT. WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS WITH THAT? THE CLIMBER RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE KITCHEN THING. THIS. YEAH. I'M JUST CURIOUS ON WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF THAT BECAUSE I ALWAYS GET NERVOUS WITH THE LITTLE ONES NEXT TO THOSE DROP OFFS. BUT THAT'S WHY I KIND OF THINK IS, WELL, THIS ONE HAS A FEW, BUT THEY'RE A LITTLE SMALLER. THAT'S EASIER TO MAINTAIN 
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DIFFERENT LIKE DIFFERENT FEATURES, LIKE YOU SAY. BUT YEAH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THAT ONE. YEAH. BUT YEAH, THAT THING RIGHT THERE. SOMETHING ELSE I COULD GO THERE AT ALL OR I DON'T KNOW, EASILY WE COULD REMOVE THAT AND HAVE SOMETHING SLIDE OR SOMETHING IS THERE. I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T TELL IF THERE'S A SLIDE OFF THE BACK. PROBABLY NOT. THAT CLIMBING WALL THING IS ALWAYS KIND OF FUN. OH YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD. SO YEAH, THERE'S TWO SLIDES. YEAH, THERE'S AN ENCLOSED SLIDE AND THE OTHER SLIDE THERE. SO THIS IS THAT FEATURE RIGHT THERE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT SLANT LIKE A SLANTED CLIMBING WALL ONE. YEAH, THAT'D BE COOL. 
          YEAH. WITH THE LITTLE. YEAH. UNLESS THAT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, A LITTLE SERVING COUNTERS ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE A POPULAR ONE TOO. IT STOPS. MAYBE YOU MAKE BELIEVE IN THERE. YEAH. 
          RIGHT. YEAH. THERE MUST BE STEPS. ONE THING THAT DOES COME UP A LOT IS FOR PARENTS. IF THEY NEED TO GET ACCESS TO. SOMETIMES IT'S NOT EASY FOR A PARENT TO GET UP THERE AS WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THE SPACE IS SMALL AND THEY CAN'T QUITE GET TO THEIR KID. HARD TO TELL IN THIS DRAWING. YEAH, YEAH. IN THE TREE. WELL, IT'S BEEN IN THERE A FEW TIMES. YEAH. 
          IT'S TIME TO GO. THAT YOU'RE CLIMBING THAT WALL. HAS MORE NIGHTMARES. HOW DID YOU GET UP THERE? IF YOU GO OUT THERE FOR A MOTION TRY. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT. OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO TO THE COMMUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH INSTALLING A 2 TO 5 PLAYGROUND AT PRAIRIE PARK, KEEPING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE UNTIL IT DOES NOT MEET CERTIFIED PLAYGROUND SAFETY STANDARDS WITH CHANGES. NO. WITH CHANGES MADE TO OPTIONS ONE AND TWO AS DISCUSSED IN THE MEETING. WHICH ONE DO YOU. WHICH ONE DO YOU LIKE BEST? I LIKE BOTH OF THEM RIGHT NOW. I'M JUST WONDERING. BECAUSE THE BARN ONE. I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS LIKE THAT MUCH. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU SAID OPTION ONE AND TWO, RIGHT? YEAH. AND I, HEY, ALWAYS SHOOT DOWN THE MOTION. I JUST BOUGHT THE BARN. ARE YOU CONSIDERING BARN NUMBER TWO? I'M JUST ONE AND THREE IN THIS ONE. AND THERE'S A 1 IN 3. I PROBABLY I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT IT WAS 1 IN 2 THREES ON THIS ONE. YOU DON'T LIKE. THIS IS THREE. THAT'S THREE. OKAY. YEAH. WELL I GUESS IT SAYS TWO ON IT. 
          IT SAYS TWO. I'M SORRY. SO 1 IN 3. SORRY. 1 IN 3. WHAT'S THE REASONING TO JUST NOT PUT ALL THREE UP TO THEM. HE DOESN'T LIKE BARNS. YEAH. HONESTLY I WAS. CAN I MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO MY EMOTION CHAIR. YES. YOU MAY TO PRESENT ALL OPTIONS. YOU'RE STARTING OVER CONSIDERATION. I WAS JUST TRYING TO CAPTURE WHAT I WAS HEARING. I'M SORRY. NOW THERE'S A MOTION THAT SEEMS REALLY TALL. SORRY. SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE BEING VERY NICE. SERIOUSLY, IT'S THE FIRST TIME THESE PLAYGROUNDS JUST WENT IN. 
          COMMISSION DECIDED WHAT THEY WANTED, PUT IT IN. SO. YES, WE WILL PUT ALL THE OPTIONS FOR SURE. OKAY, GOOD. DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR SOMEBODY FROM SAINT CROIX OR BURKE OR WHATEVER TO COME AND JUST GIVE US A LITTLE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON. 
          THIS IS WHAT'S NEW. THIS IS WHAT I ACTUALLY INVITED THEM FOR LAST MONTH. AND HE COULDN'T MAKE IT, BUT HE DEFINITELY SAID HE WOULD COME. SO YES. AND, YOU KNOW, BRING THEIR CATALOGS AND IT'S LIKE, YEAH, HOW COME WE'RE NOT SEEING THIS? YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN WE CAN THINK ABOUT WHAT WE MAY WANT TO DO WITH THE OTHER PARKS AND STUFF. TELL THEM WE WANT SOME NATURAL OPTIONS ALSO, JUST SEE IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING OR ANYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THAT. YEP. THANK YOU. ANY 
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NEW BUSINESS? NONE TONIGHT. STAFF UPDATES. MIKE, YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? DO YOU HAVE 
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ANYTHING? I WROTE DOWN SOME NOTES HERE. EVERYBODY KNOWS WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, RIGHT. SO WE'VE RECOMMENDED THAT THERE BE A PARK COORDINATOR HIRED NEXT YEAR TO COORDINATE ALL EVENTS, PROGRAMING, ALL KINDS OF STUFF. TAKE SOME TAKE SOME OF THE LOAD OFF OF ROCKY. SO I THINK THAT'S A PROGRAM, THE HOUSE PROGRAM, THE PARKS COORDINATE THE SHELTERS AND EVERYTHING. SO WE JUST SAVED YOUR MONEY TO DO THAT. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. THE CONSTRUCTION IS SUPPOSED TO BE STARTING FOR THE FISHING PIER DOWN AT LUMBERJACK LANDING, AND THEN THE CANOE LAUNCH. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT'S STARTING NOW. HE TOOK THE COUNTY BOARD ON A TOUR THERE TODAY, OR COMMISSIONERS AND THE ADMINISTRATOR, I KNOW HE TOOK THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR SURE, AND HE TOOK THE ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR. SO THAT TOUR IS COMING UP. WE'RE LOOKING AT WE DON'T KNOW YET THE DATE. SO SEAN AND I STARTED PLANNING IT. 
          IT WAS A SOFT, GRAND OPENING, SO I'M SURE YOU'LL BE INVITED TO THAT. THE PARK COMMISSIONERS WITH THE COUNTY DONATED THE MONEY, AND OUR LEGISLATORS AND EVERYBODY THAT'S WORKED ON GETTING THAT PROJECT THROUGH. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS THIS FALL SOMETIME, AND THAT SHOULD BE SOONER THAN LATER. WE WANT TO DO IT BEFORE IT GETS TOO COLD. SO ALL THE AV EQUIPMENT THERE, GETTING THOSE BOARDS INSTALLED ON THE WALLS TO MAKE SURE IT ALL STAYS UP BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRETTY HEAVY. SO THEY HAD TO PUT EXTRA SUPPORT ON THOSE WALLS. SO THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE. THE SHODDY MILL, SHODDY MILL BUILDING DOWN THERE. THE DESIGN IS BEING PUT TOGETHER RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE HPC NOW. SO IT'S MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE THAT HOPEFULLY BY THIS WINTER OR FALL OVER THE WINTER WORKING ON CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT. SO THAT'LL BE GETTING DONE. I THINK HE'S WORKING ON THE PLANS FOR THE THE PUBLIC DOCK DOWN THERE AND THE HANDICAP ACCESS DOWN TO THE PUBLIC DOCK BECAUSE IT'S WE NEED IT. THEY'RE MAKING US DO A MUSCLE SURVEY ON THE. WE'LL PUT THE SPUD POLES IN. AFTER A MUSCLE SURVEY FOR THE SPUD POLES, I GUESS. LILY LAKE ARENA. WE HAD THAT DESIGN PUT TOGETHER FOR THE. REMEMBER, I THINK IT CAME HERE. WE WERE GOING TO PUT A NEW ROOF ON THE BUILDING. SO PART OF PUTTING THE ROOF ON THE BUILDING IS. WE SAID WE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS. THE BUILDING IS 60 YEARS OLD AND IT NEEDS A FACELIFT BAD. I MEAN, IT'S A WAREHOUSE. IT'S REALLY BAD. SO LIKE OVER THEY HAVE A SKATE FOR THE ROSES. SO IT'S A FEMALE TOURNAMENT LAST WINTER. YOU WON'T BELIEVE HOW MANY PHONE CALLS I GOT AT HOME ABOUT THE CONDITION THOSE BATHROOMS. SO WE WE HIRED AN ARCHITECT. THE ONE THAT WE WORKED ON WITH THE ROOF IS NOW PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN TO FIX THAT ARENA UP. AND IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE. BUT THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE GET THE MONEY TO DO IT AND HOW DO WE FIGURE ALL THAT OUT? SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. SO WE HAVE A DESIGN PUT TOGETHER TO TO UPGRADE THE FACILITY DOWN AT LILY LAKE. YEAH. IT'S THE FACILITY IS GREAT. THE ICE IS GOOD, THE ICE IS GOOD, THE BATHROOMS ARE BAD. AND THE THERE'S NO LOBBY REALLY. AND IT'S JUST, I MEAN, IT'S OLD. IT'S 60 YEARS OLD. IT'S JUST OLD. ANOTHER PHONE CALL I GOT IS HOCKEY ASSOCIATION IS BREAKING AT THE SEAMS. LIKE WHEN MY OLDEST SON PLAYED HOCKEY, THERE WAS LIKE FIVE SQUIRT OR PEEWEE, NO SQUIRT TEAMS IN STILLWATER. THERE'S TEN THIS YEAR AND THERE'S TEN PEEWEE TEAMS. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO THEY GET MORE ICE. SO I OFFERED THEM IF THEY PAID FOR THE REFRIGERATION OR RENTED THE REFRIGERATION, WE COULD POSSIBLY USE LILY LAKE TO PUT THE REFRIGERATED ICE IN THERE BECAUSE IT HAS THE LIGHTS. I MEAN, YEARS AGO, WHEN MY KIDS FIRST STARTED HOCKEY, THERE WAS THE OLD THE OLD JUNIOR HIGH HAD ICE, HAD A HOCKEY RINK IN THERE FOR THE KIDS. LILY LAKE HAD ICE, OTC MARKETS HAD ICE, OLD ATHLETIC FIELD HAD ICE. THEY ALL HAD RINKS. THERE'S NO RINKS ANYMORE. THERE'S NONE. I MEAN, THEY'RE LUCKY THEY HAVE WHAT ROCKY DOES AT TRYING TO KEEP GOOD ICE AT LITTLE AT NORTHLAND PARK. AND YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT. IT'S JUST IT'S SO ANYWAY, I OFFERED THEM. I TOLD THEM IT'S UP TO THEM. WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR REFRIGERATION SYSTEM IN THERE. SO IT'S UP TO THEM TO FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT WE'D WORK WITH THEM, FIX UP THAT BUILDING. 
          THEY COULD USE THAT. THAT USED TO BE THE WARMING HOUSE OUT THERE. NOW I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THERE FOR YEARS. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? NORTHLAND. YEAH, NORTHLAND. OKAY. SO THAT 
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BUILDING AND THEY COULD FIX THAT UP TO WE DO HAVE THAT FUTURE BUDGET. AND THEN WE PUT THE RUBBER ACROSS THE PARKING LOT. SO KIDS PUT ON SKATES AND WALK ACROSS THE PARKING LOT AND, YOU KNOW, THE RINK. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. THE PLAZA ICE PLAZA LIGHTS, IT'S REALLY NOT PARK COMMISSION THING, BUT I YOU BROUGHT UP THE TEDDY BEAR OR SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP TEDDY BEAR PARK. SO THE TUNNEL ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE ICE OF THE PLAZA THERE, WE HAD THAT TUNNEL THAT'S VERY COSTLY TO TRY TO GET THAT DONE. SO WE ORDERED. SWEET LIGHTED TEDDY BEAR. OKAY. 
          OH, YEAH. IT'S A 16 FOOT HIGH TEDDY BEAR. NICE. SO NOW I GOT MY WIFE WORKING ON PUTTING A RED SCARF AROUND THE NECK. SO IT SHOULD BE PRETTY COOL. I MEAN, THE KIDS ARE GOING TO WANT TO GET THEIR PICTURES TAKEN. YEAH. SOMEBODY CAME TO THE CITY AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE A TREE OF LIFE OR SOMETHING FOR THE LIGHTED TREE OF LIFE, I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS? WELL, WE WANTED TO HAVE IT UP AT PIONEER PARK. I SAID, WHY NOT HAVE THEM BUY ONE OF THOSE FAKE CHRISTMAS TREES THAT YOU CAN PUT UP DOWN THE PARK AND HAVE THE TREE OF LIFE FOR CHRISTMAS DOWN THERE? AND ISLAM ARE VISIBLE, AND YOU COULD HAVE WHATEVER, A LITTLE MORE FAMILY TYPE OF STUFF DOWN THERE. SO FOR COMMUNITY OR I SHOULD SAY COMMUNITY STUFF. SO. 
          FISHING FOR THE BOAT LAUNCH THAT'S BEING DONE. I THINK THE DESIGN IS BEING DONE FOR THE RODS AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO THAT'S SEAN'S BUSY. HOW'S YOUR SKATEBOARD PARK? I HAVEN'T HEARD A WORD. SO THEY HAVE. THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE MPCA TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE WE START. AND I THINK EXCEL HAD TO GO TO A PHASE TWO. SO THEY'RE STILL HOPING IN NOVEMBER HERE THAT THEY COULD HAVE IT ALL READY TO GO FOR NEXT SPRING. AND WORST CASE, IT'LL BE NEXT SPRING. THEY DO IT, BUT THEY'RE MOVING ALONG WITH IT AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S DONE RIGHT. AND IT WAS A LOT MORE IN THERE THAN THEY ORIGINALLY WERE ANTICIPATING. SO CLEANING UP HAS BEEN. MORE CHALLENGING, I GUESS I WOULD SAY, AND THE LIABILITY AND ALL THAT. SO IT'S A BUMMER. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT DONE SO. BUT STILL MOVING FORWARD. ONE THING I'VE STARTED TO WORK ON, AND I JUST ACTUALLY SAW IT ON THE NEWS THE NIGHT BEFORE I CAME HERE IS IS A TYPE THREE BIKES OR TYPE ONE BIKES. THE ONES YOU JUST BASICALLY TURN THE THROTTLE ON A BICYCLE FOR KIDS. WELL, MY, MY BROTHER AND SISTER IN LAW IS A REALLY GOOD FRIEND. GOT RUN OVER BY ONE OF THOSE BIKES DRIVING LIKE A MANIAC. SHE HAS PERMANENT BRAIN INJURIES. AND THERE THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO REGULATE THAT. SO IF YOU WALK ACROSS THAT BRIDGE, THEY'RE FLYING. 
          THEY'RE FLYING. THESE KIDS ON THESE SCOOTERS, THEY'RE FLYING. I MEAN, SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE TO SLOW THEM DOWN OR. WELL, I BROUGHT THIS UP AT A PARKS MEETING MAYBE 1 OR 2 TIMES AGO ABOUT IN LIKE AROUND THE ACTUAL PARK STRUCTURES. YEAH. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S I WAS GOING TO CALL THAT LADY THE LEGISLATORS WORKING ON IT BECAUSE I, I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR MONTHS. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. I MEAN, I THAT'S MY MORNING EXERCISES WALKING ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND THEY FLY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT ALL OUR TRAILS ARE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE TRAILS THAT'S. OR EVEN ENFORCEMENT ON THOSE TRAILS. AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WELL AWARE OF IT. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING INTO IT FOR WHAT YOU WERE SAYING BEFORE. WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH SARAH, WHO DID OUR COMP PLAN. WE HAD SOME MONEY LEFT AND SHE'S DESIGNING LIKE PARK SIGNAGE, NEW PARK SIGNAGE, AND PART OF THE LANGUAGE AND THE SIGNAGE FOR THAT TOO, LIKE WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE RULES OF THE PARK. SO I THINK WE MEET WITH THEM ON FRIDAY TO SEE WHAT HER FIRST DRAFT OF STUFF WAS. SO PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE WITH YOU NEXT MONTH. THAT'S AWESOME. ALL THAT. YEAH. SO COMP PLAN IDEA WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GO AHEAD. WHAT ARE YOU SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO E-BIKES? I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS AT THE LEGISLATURE LEVEL BECAUSE I JUST SAW IT ON TV TONIGHT THAT THEY'RE BRINGING A LEGISLATION IN AND ACTUALLY THE SENATOR THAT'S DOING HIS DUTY. SEEBERGER. OH, GOOD. OKAY. I DID STUFF WITH THE TROOPS WITH HER YEARS AGO, SO I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY GIVE HER A CALL AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING BECAUSE IT'D BE NICE TO JUST EVEN RESTRICT IT AT LIKE THE YOUNGER KID LEVEL, LIKE WHEN IT GETS OLDER INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL AGE. I DON'T PERSONALLY, FOR ME, I DON'T WORRY AS MUCH, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE MIDDLE SCHOOL AGE WHERE IT'S LIKE, MAN, YOU SHOULD NOT BE GIVING THESE KIDS THAT TYPE OF POWER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF AGE THING YOU CAN DO OR IF IT'S JUST A RESTRICTION ON POWER. 
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BUT I WAS JUST IN BEAVER DAM, WISCONSIN THIS WEEKEND, AND WE WALKED AT NIGHT BACK FROM THE FOOTBALL GAME. AND THESE KIDS ON THESE ELECTRIC SCOOTERS AND THE MOTORCYCLE OR THE BICYCLE, I MEAN, THEY WERE FLYING AND YOU HAD THIS LITTLE LIGHT, AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU COULD SEE THIS THING COMING AT US. AND IT WAS DARK AND THEY WERE JUST FLYING THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED DOWN IN HASTINGS. HIT THAT LADY FROM BEHIND AND NOW SHE HAS SHE'S BRAIN BRAIN DAMAGED. YEAH. WELL, YOU THINK A LICENSE FOR, YOU KNOW, DRIVING BOATS IS NOT 16. YOU THINK YOU MIGHT WANT A LICENSE FOR. YEAH. YOU KNOW. YEAH. SAME THING. SOMETHING I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. COMP PLAN I DON'T KNOW. ARE YOU ANY ON THE COMP PLAN COMMITTEE COMMISSIONER LARSEN WELL YOU ARE YEAH. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS OR ARE YOU AT THE LAST MEETING. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEY'RE TRYING TO GO OUT AND GET INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE ON THE COMP PLAN. 
          AND THERE'S A QUESTIONNAIRE ON THE BACK OF THE QR CODE, AND YOU CAN GO TO. GET ON AND GO AND MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMP PLAN, WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU HOW YOU LIKE THINGS DEVELOPED IN STILLWATER. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS THEY CAN, SO THEY'RE GOING TO LIKE THE, THE FARMERS MARKET UP THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO THE ART FESTIVAL THIS WEEKEND. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE ABOUT HOW THEY WANT TO DEVELOP STILLWATER AND HOW WE WANT TO WORK INTO THE FUTURE. SO YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO GO TO THE QR CODE, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE PARKS PLAN, OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND JASON HAD ASKED ME TO SHARE THESE WITH YOU. SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THEM TODAY. JUST KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALL INVOLVED. SO ANY FEEDBACK IS APPRECIATED. THAT MANY MEETINGS? NO, NO, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT RIGHT AWAY. YOU'RE PROBABLY DOING I KNOW YOU WERE. IT'S THERE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THE TIME. I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT RIGHT AWAY. I GET TOO MUCH GOING IN MY MIND. ROCKY PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON ME, SO I MAKE LOTS. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE? THAT'S ALL I HAD. OBVIOUSLY YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE RIVERTOWN ART FESTIVALS THIS WEEKEND. ALWAYS A GOOD TIME WITH THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND BEING HARVEST FEST, SO THE NEXT TWO WEEKENDS WILL BE BUSY DOWNTOWN. SO THAT'LL BE EXCITING. ONE OTHER THING WE DID DO IS AT THE PED PLAZA BATHROOM BY THE THE GAS STATION OVER HERE. WE HAD AN ORGANIZATION COME IN AND DONATE A AED STATION. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE SAW THAT ON THE SIDE OF THE BATHROOMS THERE, RIGHT BY THE FAMILY BATHROOM. WE MOUNTED ON THE OUTSIDE FACING THE RIVER, SO IT'S KIND OF VISIBLE FOR EVERYBODY. HOPEFULLY YOU NEVER HAVE TO USE IT, BUT IF IT HAS TO. HOPEFULLY IT PROVIDES SOMEONE SOME SAFETY THERE. SO THAT WAS KIND OF AN EXCITING THING THAT WE HAD. THEY DRAWN A BLANK ON THE THE WOMAN'S NAME AND THE ORGANIZATION, BUT THEY'VE DONATED A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM AROUND THE MINNESOTA. SO IT'S KIND OF A NICE THING. AND I THINK SEEING THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT KIND OF WANTS TO ADD ANOTHER ONE ON IT, THE OTHER BATHROOM, JUST TO HAVE A COUPLE SPREAD OUT DOWNTOWN AND MAYBE EVEN AT LUMBERJACK LANDING. SO IT MIGHT HAVE A FEW MORE AROUND. KIND OF A NEAT THING. SO THERE'S ONE HERE AT CITY HALL LIBRARY. YEAH. NO. 
          WHERE IS IT? OH, I'M GOTTA BE RIGHT OUT BY THE OFFICES THERE. HOURS FOR PUBLIC WORKS IS JUST RIGHT BY OUR. WHERE LAKE MELITA WOULD SIT OUR ENTRYWAY. BUT I BET IF WE WENT OUT THERE, WE WOULD SEE IT. OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK MIKE DID MOST OF THE UPDATES I HAD. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR ME THAT WANDERING ABOUT, BUT. WONDERING ABOUT THOSE STEPS ON THE NORTH NORTH LITTLE STEPS OVER THERE THAT YOU CLOSED DURING THE WINTER ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT GO DOWN. AND I'M JUST THINKING WHEN THAT'S FINISHED, MORE PEOPLE WILL WANT TO GO DOWN THOSE STEPS. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING LIKE. HAVEN'T BEEN DONE FOR A WHILE. 
          THE NORTH SIDE RIVER OASIS. YEAH. BY THE OASIS. SOUTH SIDE. YEAH. OH YEAH. SOUTH. I'M THINKING NORTH. I KNOW WHY I'M THINKING NORTH. I'M HEADING NORTH. YEAH. DEFINITELY. LOOK AT THOSE. YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'LL BE MORE ACTION DOWN THAT WAY, RIGHT? YEAH. I MIGHT HAVE TO DEFINITELY LOOK INTO FIXING THOSE UP A LITTLE BIT. THE SOUTH STAIRS. SOUTH STAIRS. 
          YES. I KIND OF KNEW THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW. ANYTHING YOU GUYS ARE SEEING IN STILLWATER THAT WE'RE MISSING. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          YEAH. THERE WE GO. SUNRISE PARK IS GETTING A TRAIL CONNECTION PUT IN. WHERE IS THAT GOING 
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EXACTLY? IT'S WELL, OBVIOUSLY FROM THE PLAYGROUND AROUND THROUGH. THERE'S KIND OF THAT TRAIL IN THERE NOW THAT YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THERE AND IT'S GOING TO CONNECT TO THE OTHER TRAIL TRAIL THAT RUNS ALONG STILLWATER BOULEVARD. YEAH. IS IT JUST GOING TO COME WHEN IT COMES OUT OF THE WOODS THERE, OR IS IT JUST GOING TO COME STRAIGHT TO IT? I THINK IT'S GOING TO GO BEHIND THE GOAL THERE AND GO STRAIGHT VERSUS LIKE WRAPPING ALL THE WAY AROUND. AT ONE POINT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WRAPPING IT ALL THE WAY, BUT I KNOW WE ALL STARTED TALKING ABOUT MAYBE DOING A BETTER PLAYGROUND OR A PARKING LOT THERE TOO IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? SO MAKING THAT DIRT AREA BETTER PARKING LOT. SO I THINK FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING STRAIGHT TO IT FROM, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THAT SOCCER GOAL. AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT. I HAVE TO REALLY MEASURE IT. BUT YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S THE WETLAND RIGHT NEXT TO IT. YEAH. SO IT MIGHT HAVE. AND THOSE SOCCER GOALS REALLY, THEY ONLY THEY PRACTICE THERE. 
          SO LIKE GAMES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY FEEL IT'S NOT, IT'S A BOWL NOW. IT'S JUST CHANGED SO MUCH. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IF WE EVER LOSE OUTDOOR ICE, MAYBE THAT'S AN AREA WE REGRADE AND PUT LIGHTS THERE AND ICE THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT SO FOR THE NORTHLAND PARK THING, SO I MEAN, LIKE WINTER IS GOING TO BECOME INCREASINGLY MORE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN ICE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. SO IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN TO SOME DEGREE, RIGHT HERITAGE CULTURE OF MINNESOTA AND DOING ICE IN THE WINTER, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO REFRIGERATE SOMETHING OUTSIDE. YEAH. SO IF NOW IS THE TIME WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED ICE, RIGHT? WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT WE NEED MORE ICE NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE, RIGHT? IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE MASTER PLAN NOW AND START THINKING ABOUT LIKE, WELL, WHAT PART OF THAT COULD WE ACTUALLY EXECUTE IF THERE'S MOTIVATION FROM THE COMMUNITY TO START FUNDRAISING? SOME OF THAT SEEMS LIKE A TIME TO LEVERAGE THAT AND MAKE LIKE A, I KNOW I'M A FAN OF SUBCOMMITTEES, BUT LIKE A TARGETED COMMITTEE, IT WORKS, RIGHT? LIKE WE'RE GETTING STUFF DONE THAT WAY, BUT LIKE GETTING SOME PEOPLE INVOLVED IN GETTING THAT GOING, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND REVISION WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH NORTHLAND, AND WE CAN TALK ALL ABOUT NORTHLAND IN THAT FIELD RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO GET REGRADED OR SOMETHING. YEAH, YEAH, IT'S A SWAMP. IT'S JUST ALWAYS A SWAMP. IT HOLDS THE WATER REALLY. WE HAD MET LAST FALL WITH MILLER TO MAYBE SWALE UP ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE OUTFIELD FENCE. YOU KNOW, WHERE IT COMES DOWN THE HILL. AND WE HAVEN'T I DON'T THINK IT'S RUNOFF FROM THE TOP FIELD, THOUGH, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT IS IF YOU REALLY SIT AND WATCH IT RAIN, IT JUST COMES GUSHING FROM UP THERE AND THROUGH THE INFIELD. IT DOESN'T GO INTO THAT SWALE THAT'S IN BETWEEN THE TWO. IS THERE NOT DESIGNED TO, BUT IT DOESN'T HIT THERE. NOT LIKE IT WAS INTENDED. YEAH. 
          IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THAT THE INFIELD ACTUALLY TILTS BACK TOWARDS THE OUTFIELD TOO. YEAH. 
          NOW IT DOES. YEAH YEAH YEAH. IT'S GREAT. IT'S GRADED THE WRONG WAY. YEAH. SO THAT NEEDS TO GET REFIXED BECAUSE IT'S JUST WE CAN THINK OF OTHER PLACES TO, TO DO REFRIGERATED ICE TO REFRIGERATED ICE. JUST I HAVE NO IDEA. I'M JUST SAYING LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD COST. I THINK THEY WERE TALKING, I DON'T KNOW, 50 TO $100,000 TO RENT A UNIT TO RENT. 
          THEY'RE PREDICTING A SUPER EL NINO. SO IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY WARM. IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAVEN'T HAD ICE. WE WASTED TIME. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT LONGER TERM INVESTMENT. 
          SO IT'S TEMPORARY. LIKE THERE ISN'T ANYTHING TEMPORARY ONES. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU PUT DOWN PADS AND YOU FLOOD OVER THE TOP. SO WE HAD THE ONE I REMEMBER WE DID HOCKEY DAY A COUPLE. WELL, THAT WAS MORE THAN A COUPLE YEARS AGO NOW. WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMEBODY BUY THE ICE MAKING THE CHILLER AND ALL THAT EQUIPMENT FOR US. AND THE CITY TURNED IT DOWN. HE WANTED THE CITY TO PUT A PERMANENT RINK DOWNTOWN LOWELL PARK, BECAUSE HE THOUGHT IT WAS BEAUTIFUL DOWN THERE, THAT PEOPLE COULD SKATE DOWN THERE IN THE RIVER AND THAT. AND THEY WE HAD IT AND THEY TURNED IT DOWN. BUT I KNOW THEY MAKE ONES. YOU LAY OUT MATS AND THEY HAD THE CHILLER UNIT AND LOWELL'S OR LILLY IS GOING TO BE OR NOT, LILLY NORTHLAND IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGING. YOU GOT TO RUN POWER IN THERE. AND HOW DO WE DO IT? NO. BUT I PUT IT BACK IN THE HOCKEY ASSOCIATION. THESE THESE GUYS ARE OVERWORKED NOW AND THEY WE JUST CAN'T DO EVERYTHING FOR EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME. I THINK IT'S INVOLVING THEM. RIGHT. LIKE I GOT THEM INVOLVED. YEAH. 
          YEAH YEAH. AND I SAID I SAID YOU NEED TO GO TO THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES TOO. AND YOU KNOW, OAK PARK HEIGHTS, YOU GOT A REALLY NICE RINK OVER THERE IN BRECK PARK. WELL, ARE THEY USING IT? I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. SO IT DOES BRING UP A THING THAT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT. 
          LIKE, SO I STILL RUN INTO PARENTS THAT HAVE NO IDEA THAT THE REC CENTER IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OWNS AND LIKE THAT IT EVEN EXISTS, OR HOW TO EVEN USE IT, OR WHAT THEY COULD JOIN TO USE IT. SO LIKE, I THINK I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE, BUT LIKE GETTING SOME TYPE OF UPDATE FROM THE REC CENTER OF ACTUALLY WHO USES IT, LIKE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE IT, THE WHATEVER, WHOEVER RENTS IT THAT YOU COULD JOIN, RIGHT? WHETHER IT'S THE, WHAT IS IT, THE OVER 
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50, OVER 60 BASEBALL TEAM FROM SAINT PAUL OR I AM ROSEVILLE. THEY USE IT EVERY DAY. YEAH. I JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE, WANT IT, BUT THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO JOIN ANYTHING. AND IT'S NOT EVEN APPARENT THERE WHEN YOU GO, LIKE WHO ALL THE USERS ARE OF THE FIELD FOR THAT MATTER. SO I THINK JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE FOR US HOW IT'S GETTING USED AND WHAT IT'S BEING USED FOR, AND GETTING THAT BACK OUT TO THE PUBLIC IN A WAY WOULD BE SUPER USEFUL. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A JOB FOR THE MARKETING CONTACTS, LIKE OBVIOUSLY. YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT MORE OPEN, OPEN SKATING THAN THERE USED TO BE UP THERE YEARS AGO FOR LIKE THE PUBLIC TO WANT TO GO SKATING. I MEAN, WHEN MY KIDS WERE GROWING UP, EVERY SUNDAY NIGHT, WE'D GO TO OPEN SKATING THERE. AND, AND IT'S ALWAYS CROWDED, BUT THESE PEOPLE JUST AREN'T FINDING OUT ABOUT IT. YEAH. IN TERMS OF THE PARK SIGNAGE PART. SO I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE USING FOR LIKE A DESIGN, LIKE A STYLE SHEET AND STUFF LIKE THAT FOR THAT AND HOW THAT WOULD FIT INTO LIKE A BIGGER PICTURE FOR THE STILLWATER LIKE OVERALL, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME LEFTOVER BUDGET THAT THEY'RE USING TO DO THIS, AND I THOUGHT SOME OF THAT WAS GOING TO GO TOWARDS WAYFINDING, BUT MAYBE IT'S JUST THE PARK SIGNAGE OR IS IT THE WAYFINDING PART? I JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE A PART THAT SHOULD BE ALL PART OF THAT SAME CONVERSATION AS WE HAVE FOR NEXT YEAR. BUDGETED MORE. SHE WAS JUST USING UP THE BUDGET WE HAD, SO THERE WILL BE AVAILABILITY TO INCORPORATE BOTH. SHE'S COMING UP WITH A KIND OF LIKE A BRAND, I GUESS. I THINK IT WOULD BE THE STILLWATER LOGO, RIGHT? THE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE TOWER. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE INCORPORATE THAT INTO WHAT I DON'T I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S BRINGING. SO WHO'S DOING ELIZABETH. NO. SARAH. SARAH FROM HC D I. SO WE'LL SEE. I, I LIKE I LIKE THE I YOU'RE THINKING GOOD. I YEAH I'VE BEEN I'VE HARPED BEFORE TOM MCCARTY LEFT BEFORE THAT I SAID WE NEED A BRAND FOR, FOR THE CITY OF STILLWATER. YEAH. SO EVERYBODY SEES SOMETHING. IT'S STILLWATER. 
          I MEAN, YOU REMEMBER YEARS AGO I HAD A PARK LOGO AT WASHINGTON COUNTY AND I HAD A CONTEST AND WE HAD OUR OWN LOGO. SO WE HAD A LOGO. I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW IT WAS IT, BUT IT WAS A TREE AND A W AND THAT WAS THE PARK LOGO. SO YOU ALWAYS KNEW WHAT IT WAS. IT WAS A PARK. IT WAS WASHINGTON COUNTY PARK. WELL, THEN EVERYBODY STARTED MODIFYING THAT. AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BACK SAID, WE NEED A LOGO JUST FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY. AND YOU ARE WASHINGTON COUNTY. I MEAN, AND WE NEED TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A STILLWATER LOGO. EVERYBODY USES THAT LOGO AND YOU USE THE SAME BLUE COLOR OR WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO USE. YOU DON'T VARY FROM THAT. AND YOU USE THE SAME LOGO. SO IF IT IF YOU COME TO THAT PARK, THEY KNOW IT'S A STILLWATER PARK. YEP. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND THEN I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT UNIFIES LIKE EVEN THE HISTORICAL PART OF STILLWATER TO WHAT IS NOW NEW HISTORICAL PARTS OF STILLWATER. RIGHT. BUT LIKE IT, IT, IT TIES IT ALL TOGETHER. THEY KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVER COME TO A PARK AND YOU SEE A SIGN WITH A LOGO ON IT, IT'S A STILLWATER PARK. YEP. IT'S THE SAME REASON LIKE THE SAINT CROIX REC CENTER. EVERYONE THINKS THAT IT'S PRIVATE. I THOUGHT IT WAS PRIVATELY OWNED. NO ONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT'S THE CITY. UNLESS, YOU KNOW. BUT IF YOU'RE FIRST COMING HERE, PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW. SO THEN IT'S LIKE THE CITY DOESN'T GET RECOGNITION FOR HAVING THIS FACILITY. IT'S SOMETHING ELSE. I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP FOR YOU. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT CURLING CENTER. THEY'RE TRYING TO RAISE 35 MILLION FOR THE OLYMPIC CURLING CENTER. THE JASON AND I STARTED. WE WENT UP TO MAPLE GROVE TO LOOK AT IT. 
          THEY WERE DOING PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS ON THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY PAY FOR THEIR WHOLE ALL THEIR PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND STUFF ARE UP IN MAPLE GROVE. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHAT THEY GOT. HALF A PERCENT SALES TAX, EXACTLY HOW WE'RE PAYING FOR OUR WATERFRONT PROJECTS IS A HALF PERCENT SALES TAX, BUT THEY'RE AUTHORIZED. WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO FINISH OUR PROJECTS DOWN THERE FOR 12 MILLION, 90 MILLION UP THERE. 
          COMMUNITY POOL, COMMUNITY ICE ARENA, COMMUNITY CENTER. EVERYBODY WANTS THAT FROM STILLWATER. BUT IN THIS WAY, IF WE PAID FOR IT WITH A SALES TAX, THEN EVERYBODY'S CONTRIBUTING TO IT. IT'S NOT JUST STILLWATER PEOPLE. SO AND THEN SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, DO YOU PUT A HOTEL ON THE FRONT OF THE ICE ARENA? A RESTAURANT WANTS TO GO IN THERE. NOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A RESTAURANT. SO THEY BUILD ALL THAT AND RUN IT. AND THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM ON SOME HOW TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. THROW A DIFFERENT IDEA FOR THAT. WHAT IF IT WAS LIKE THE COMMUNITY CAFE AND IT WAS LIKE, KIND OF LIKE ALMOST LIKE A CAFETERIA SET WHERE LIKE ON A QUICK RUN, PEOPLE COULD JUST RUN AND GRAB FOOD, BUT YOU COULD ALSO JUST GO AND MEET AND HANG OUT. LIKE WHEN YOU GO AND DO YOUR WALKS AT THE GO HAVE COFFEE, YOU GO 
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HAVE COFFEE AND YOU SIT DOWN AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT IT'LL BE. YEAH. NOT JUST ONE SINGLE. LIKE YOU COULD ALMOST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE LIKE DIFFERENT KIND OF RESTAURANTS, LIKE DIFFERENT SMALL. WELL, THE ONLY PROBLEM WE HAVE IS ROOM, RIGHT? THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IS ROOM. BUT IF YOU'RE COMING TO TOWN, YOU'RE COMING TO STILLWATER. 
          WHERE DO YOU STAY? THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF HOTEL SPACE UP THERE, BUT YOU'D HAVE A HOTEL AT THE ICE ARENA. YOU COULD STAY RIGHT AT THE ICE ARENA. I DON'T LOOK, TRY AND. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET OUT THE MONEY OFF THE OFF THE BACKS OF THE TAXPAYERS FOR EVERYTHING. I JUST HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH STILLWATER PAYING FOR EVERYTHING FOR EVERYBODY. YEAH. 
          MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT, I'M OUT. OH, YEAH. NO. THAT'S GOOD. HE'S GOT GREAT IDEAS. I HAVE ONE ONE LITTLE ONE. AND IT'S NOT EXACTLY PARK, BUT IT'S MORE TRAIL RELATED. BUT THAT COUNTS, RIGHT? YEAH. SO I DO THE LOOP TRAIL QUITE A BIT. AND, AND IT'S BEEN LIKE A WEEK OR TWO SINCE I'VE DONE IT, BUT THE LAST COUPLE TIMES BEFORE THAT, COMING BACK INTO STILLWATER, COMING BACK UP NORTH, YOU GO PAST THE THE BOATS. BUT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE DOCK CAFE, THERE WAS LIKE THIS DUMPSTER AND THE STENCH COMING OUT OF THAT THING. LIKE IT'S LIKE WE, WE SPEND ALL THIS MONEY MAKING THIS BEAUTIFUL PATH. IT WAS FOUL AND THERE WAS LIKE STUFF OOZING OUT OF IT. AND I RODE MY BIKE THROUGH IT. I COULD SMELL IT ALL THE WAY HOME, JUST LIKE I DO. WE HAVE ANY CONTROL LIKE THE DOCK CAFE SOUTH, THE DOCK CAFE, BUT NORTH OF THE THE BOATS. BUT IT'S RIGHT NEAR THOSE BUILDINGS THERE. SO WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, ALL THAT STUFF TRASH COMING. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHOSE IT IS, BUT IT'S LIKE RIGHT NEXT TO THE TRAIL. THAT'S PRIVATE. YEAH, IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE. YOU'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL THERE OR IF IT'S THERE ALL THE TIME. IT WAS SOMETIMES IT SMELLS, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T. BUT IT WAS JUST THE STUFF OOZING OUT. IT WAS JUST. I'M DONE. I WILL BRING THAT UP. 
          I WILL I WON'T PUT THAT ON. ROCKY. IT HAS BEEN LEAKING. AND YEAH, IT SMELL JUST FOLLOWS YOU ALL THE WAY HOME. JUST. YOU LIKE DO A MOTION. I'LL I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. OKAY, I'LL SECOND ALL
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