[I. CALL TO ORDER]
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          6TH, 2026. WITH THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER. COLLINS. COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. MAYOR KOZLOWSKI HERE. AND 
          [1. Lily Lake Ice Arena Facility Study and Concept Plans]
WITH THAT FIRST TIME ON OUR AGENDA IS THE LILLY LAKE ICE ARENA ARENA FACILITY STUDY AND CONCEPT PLAN. SO SHAWN, YOU INTRODUCE IT AND TAKE IT AWAY TONIGHT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE HAVE I G THEIR CONSULTING FIRM THEY ORIGINALLY HIRED TO DO A REROOF PROJECT ON THE LAKE ICE ARENA. BUT THEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT LET'S IT'S BEEN 50 YEARS. LET'S LOOK AT DOING REMODEL OF THE WHOLE ICE ARENA. SO WE ONCE AGAIN HIRED ISG TO DO A FACILITY ASSESSMENT AND SOME CONCEPT PLANS FOR A NEW LILLY LAKE ICE ARENA. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. AWESOME. YEAH. THANK YOU SHAWN. EXCITED TO BE HERE. THANKS FOR HAVING US. MY NAME IS THAD DOWLING. I LEAD OUR FACILITY ASSESSMENT GROUPS AT ISG. I'M IN OUR PROJECT DELIVERY TEAM AND I BROUGHT WITH ME JOHN KRETSCHMER ARCHITECT, WORKING EXCLUSIVELY IN OUR SPORTS AND RECREATION STUDIO. COOL. SO LIKE SHAWN SAID, LIFE KIND OF STARTED OUT. 
          IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO NOW, RIGHT? LATE FALL OR FALL TIME APPROACH US TO LOOK AT THE ROOF. 
          AND AS WE WERE LOOKING AT IT AND PLANNING AND JUST ABOUT READY TO KICK OFF THAT DESIGN, I REMEMBER YOU BROUGHT ME DOWN THERE AND WE LOOKED AT SOME RESTROOMS. WE LOOKED AT THE RINK AND KIND OF THIS OVERALL STIPULATION AND SAID, I THINK WE NEED SOME MORE MASTER PLANNING. SO THAT KIND OF BEGAN THE STUDY THAT ISG KIND OF EMBARKED ON. SO IT STARTED WITH THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT. AND WHAT THAT DID WAS JUST LAY A BASELINE OF THE FACILITY, KIND OF WHERE YOU'RE AT AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE GOES, SYSTEMS. AND IT KIND OF HAD A BAR AGAINST INDUSTRY STANDARDS. SO LIKE LIFE CYCLE OF EQUIPMENT, YOUR ICE PLANT, ALL THE THINGS KIND OF ROPED INTO ONE BIG STUDY. AND THEN WE HAD A TEAM OF ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS THAT KIND OF SPEARHEADED THAT STUDY. JOHN AND HIS TEAM WERE A PART OF THAT, AND I LOOKED AT EVERYTHING FROM THE LIFE SAFETY TO ACCESSIBILITY TO THE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS AND EVEN THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT REALLY KIND OF DREW A BASELINE FOR US. AND I FORGOT THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE DRIVING THE BUS HERE TOO. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA. HERE'S OUR ASSESSMENT. ALL THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. LIKE I SAID, WE LISTED AND LOOKED AT, AND WE KIND OF BROUGHT THAT BACK TO THE CITY AND KIND OF HAD SOME HIGH LEVEL COST ESTIMATES OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET THE BUILDING UP TO ACCESSIBILITY CODE, MECHANICAL CODE, ELECTRICAL CODE, AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS. RIGHT. SO AS PART OF THAT STUDY, WE ALSO GOT SOME INFORMATION FROM SHAWN AND HIS TEAM WITH THE CITY. YOU GUYS HAD EMBARKED ON AN ACCESSIBILITY STUDY THE YEAR PRIOR, AND LILLY LAKE WAS ONE OF THOSE FACILITIES THAT WERE LOOKED AT. JULIE PETERSON'S GROUP, OR JKP INCORPORATED, DOES A GREAT JOB OF DOING SOME OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS, AND WE JUST WANTED TO INSERT THIS IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION, KNOWING THAT THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT LILLY LAKE HAD KIND OF SOME OF THOSE DEFICIENCIES AS IT RELATES TO ACCESSIBLE RESTROOMS, ACCESSIBLE DOORWAYS, AND JUST GENERAL CIRCULATION CHALLENGES. SO WANTED TO PUT THAT IN TODAY'S FINDINGS. SO HERE, HERE YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE COST ESTIMATES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT BASELINE FACILITY ASSESSMENT. SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT KIND OF HAD TO BE DONE FROM A CODE PERSPECTIVE. WE GAVE THOSE KIND OF A PRIORITY ONE RATING. A PRIORITY TWO RATING WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS IN WORKING CONDITION NOW, BUT MAYBE YOU NEED TO START PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. AND THEN A PRIORITY THREE WOULD BE ANY KIND OF LIKE ESTHETIC NEEDS OR THINGS THAT ARE IN REALLY GOOD WORKING SHAPE, AND IT'S JUST KIND OF A FUTURE PROBLEM OR DEFICIENCY THAT WE SEE COMING UP. SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE BASELINE OF HOW WE GOT TO JOHN'S WORK. AND THEN THAT'S KIND OF WHEN THE ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS REALLY KIND OF DUG IN AND SAID, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? AND STARTED THOSE TALKS WITH THE CITY. DIFFERENT USER GROUPS THAT USE THOSE USES THE SPACE. AND THEN I'LL LET JOHN KIND OF DESCRIBE THAT PROCESS. AND WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. SO THERE'S A LOT MORE CONTENT HERE THAN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'M HAPPY TO CALL ANY OF THIS CONTENT. I FIGURE THAT THIS WAY WE COULD GIVE YOU THE MOST HOLISTIC PICTURE OF THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE MET WITH, FOLLOWING UP THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT, IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GAIN SOME ADDITIONAL CLARITY ON REALLY, IF YOU WERE TO KIND OF START THIS BUILDING FROM SCRATCH, ENVISION WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE LONG TERM. OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW THAT IT'LL BE AN ARENA, BUT HOW CAN IT BEST SUIT THE COMMUNITY? HOW CAN IT BE A REGIONAL DRAW FOR TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE TOURNAMENTS AND ADDITIONAL ANCILLARY PROGRAMS, SUCH AS THE FIGURE SKATING CLUB? WHAT DOES IT NEED TO ACHIEVE THOSE INTENTS TO DO SO, WE NEEDED TO IDENTIFY MAJOR CHALLENGES WITH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OUTSIDE OF JUST THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT FINDINGS SO POOR AWAY OUT IN CIRCULATION WAS NOTED THAT ACCESSIBILITY ANALYSIS THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN 2025 REALLY OUTLINED A LOT OF 
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DEFICIENT, ACCESSIBLE AMENITIES SUCH AS SEATING, CIRCULATION, RESTROOMS, COUNTS, ETC. 
          UNDERSIZED AND OUTDATED AMENITIES. THE LOBBY IS IN A GREAT SPOT, BUT IT'S VERY UNDERSIZED AND IT'S NOT UTILIZING THE ADJACENCY TO THE LAKE TO BE AN APPEALING FEATURE AND SETTING WITHIN THE FACILITY AS IT COULD BE. RESTROOMS, AS NOTED, WERE UNDERSIZED AND LACKED WHICH ACCOUNTS INSUFFICIENT SUPPORT SPACES. CONCESSIONS IS THERE, BUT IT'S BEING USED AS STORAGE AND THEIR OPERATIONAL ISSUES. WITH AN ANTIQUATED REFRIGERATION SYSTEM. 
          THE PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING, WHICH WE'LL TOUCH ON MOMENTARILY, IS HAS BEEN A HEADACHE FOR DOUG AND HIS TEAM TO WORK AROUND, BUT THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, ADDITIONAL DESIRED IMPROVEMENTS, LARGER LOBBY, DEDICATED SPACES FOR ESPECIALLY FOR THE ATHLETES THAT ARE RELIANT ON THE SETTING AND IMPROVED SPECTATOR EXPERIENCE AND ENHANCED FUNCTIONALITY. ADDRESSING A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITIES THAT SUPPORT THE PROGRAM FUNCTIONS OF THE SPACE. WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I TOUCH REALLY BRIEFLY ON SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. IT'S OBVIOUSLY IN A UNIQUE LOCATION, BUT IT'S ALSO A UNIQUE STRUCTURE. PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING, THOUGH A COMMON BUILDING TYPE, HAS A LOT OF DEFICIENCIES, IT'S MEANT TO BE A VERY ECONOMICAL WAY TO MAKE A BIG, LARGE SPACE. WORKS REALLY WELL FOR A RINK, BUT IT'S BASED ON REPETITION. 
          IT'S HAS A LOT OF KIND OF A KIT APART COMPONENT ASSEMBLY METHOD THAT MAKES IT HARD TO MODIFY DOWN THE LINE, DOWN THE LINE. IT ALSO HAS LIMITATIONS ON WHAT THE CAPACITY IS. SO WHEN THIS WAS CONSTRUCTED, SNOW LOADS WERE VERY DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS BASED ON WHAT WE OUR CODE REQUIRED TO ACCOUNT FOR. TODAY, THERE'S NO LIFE SAFETY MEASURES IN THERE, SUCH AS A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM. SO EVERYTHING WE INTRODUCE TO IT PUTS ADDITIONAL WEIGHT BEARING ON THE EXISTING FRAME THAT WAS DESIGNED BASED ON WHAT IT WAS REQUIRED IN THE 60S AND 70S AND THEN ADJACENT TOPOGRAPHY. IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S ADJACENT TO THE LAKE, AND THERE'S A VERY NICE HILLSIDE ON THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE THAT REALLY IS INFORMING WHERE WE CAN PUT ON POTENTIAL ADDITIONS. SO WE WENT THROUGH THE CONCEPT ITERATION PROCESS. WE WANT TO REALLY EXPLORE WHAT THE PROGRAM GOALS WERE THAT WERE OUTLINED FOR US, AND HAD SOME EXPLORATION TO DIFFERENT DESIGN RESPONSE MECHANISMS. CONCEPT ONE IS INTENDED TO DEAL WITH THE PROGRAM IMPROVEMENTS ON TOP OF THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT FINDINGS THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING FOOTPRINT. THAT'S VERY ECONOMICAL, BUT IT DOESN'T ACHIEVE A LOT OF THE PROGRAM DESIRES TO SUPPORT THE SPECTATOR EXPERIENCE AND THE ATHLETE AMENITIES THAT WERE OUTLINED IN OUR INITIAL STAKEHOLDER INPUT SESSION. CONCEPT TWO TOOK A PASS AT. HOW DO WE SUBDIVIDE THOSE LOCATIONS? HAVING A. THE NORTHEAST. SO BOTTOM RIGHT WOULD BE AN EXPANDED LOBBY. THE NORTH PART OF THE PLAN THERE WOULD BE SEPARATED VARSITY PROGRAM SPACE, AND THEN COMMUNITY LOCKER ROOMS WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THOSE ARE ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. SO REALISTICALLY, ONCE WE UNDERSTOOD THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE ADDED, WE WANTED TO EXPLORE WHAT CONFIGURATION WAS BEST SUITED FOR THE INTENDED USE OF THIS SPACE. CONCEPT THREE KIND OF CONSOLIDATES ALL OF THOSE INTO ONE SINGULAR CONCURRENT ADDITION. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WAS IDENTIFIED DURING SUBSEQUENT VISION PLANNING REVIEW MEETINGS WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES WAS THAT THIS REALLY DISCONNECTED THE BUILDING FROM THE LAKE. AND WE AND WE HEARD THAT THAT WAS A DESIRE TO ENHANCE THE CONNECTION VISIBLY PHYSICALLY TO THAT SPACE. AND THAT WAS SHOULD BE A FOCAL POINT ON WHAT WE LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD. CONCEPT FOUR KEPT THEM ALL ADJACENT TO ONE ANOTHER. PUSH THE LOBBY FURTHER TO THE NORTH SO YOU WOULD HAVE EXPANSIVE VIEWS OF OF THE LAKE. AND IT REALLY WORKED WELL FROM A WAYFINDING STANDPOINT. ENTERING THE SITE FROM THE EAST, YOU'RE DRIVING IN, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO DROP ATHLETES OFF, WHERE YOU WOULD CONGREGATE AND THE LIKE. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT PLAN WAS ATHLETES AND SPECTATORS WOULD ENTER THE SAME LOCATION, AND THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT AN INFLUX OF TRAFFIC AND POTENTIAL EVENTUAL DAMAGE THAT MIGHT OCCUR TO SOME FINISHES BASED ON HOCKEY PLAYERS AND HAVING A LOT OF BIG BAGS AND STICKS THAT WOULD, THAT ROUTINELY GET BANGED INTO WALLS AND SURFACES. 
          SO THAT LED US TO OUR FINAL PREFERRED CONCEPT. REALISTICALLY, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SAME KIT OF PARTS, THE BLUE BLOCK IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAS A VERY LARGE, EXPANSIVE LOBBY SPACE. AGAIN, IT'S ORIENTED FACING EAST, SO IT'S VERY EASY FOR FOR VISITORS TO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO AND ENTER THE BUILDING. IT'S INTENDED TO BE LARGE TO ACCOMMODATE OPEN SEATING SPACES AND OPEN UP TO THE CONCESSIONS. THAT'S THAT LITTLE BOX THAT IS ABUTTING ABUTTING THE GREEN ONE TO THE NORTH OF IT, VERY LARGE MULTI USER RESTROOMS. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING FOOTPRINT, ASIDE FROM LOCKER ROOMS, WAS THE FACT THAT THE RESTROOMS ONCE HAD SHOWERS. THEY'RE NO LONGER THERE. THEY DON'T HAVE 
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THE RIGHT NUMBER OF FIXTURES AND THEY'RE NOT ACCESSIBLE. THE THREE SMALLER BOXES BETWEEN THE RESTROOMS AND THE LOBBY IS A DESIGNATED OFFICE SPACE JANITOR'S CLOSET. AND THEN A SINGLE A SINGLE USER RESTROOM, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS TYPE OF BUILDING TO HAVE ONE TO ACCOMMODATE FAMILIES AND NURSING MOTHERS ON THE SOUTH END OF THE BUILDING. THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST CONSISTENT LAYOUT THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT THE COMMUNITY LOCKER ROOMS. WE DID SOME ITERATIONS WITH THAT WHERE WE SEPARATED LOCK LOCKERS AND SHOWERS AND RESTROOMS TO BE DISPERSED AMONGST ALL OF THEM, BUT ENDED WITH HAVING THEM CONSOLIDATED. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF EQUAL USE, EQUIDISTANT BETWEEN THE FOUR COMMUNITY LOCKER ROOMS IN THE SOUTH END OF THE BUILDING. THE TWO BOXES, BLUE BOXES ARE ADDITIONS. SO THOSE WOULD BE EXPANSIONS TO THE EXISTING BUILDING FOOTPRINT. THE GREEN WOULD BE A RENOVATION TO THE EXISTING. SO THE TWO LARGER BOXES IN THE BOTTOM OF IT ARE DESIGNATED VARSITY LOCKER ROOMS. THOSE COULD ACCOMMODATE ANY OF THE LOCAL OR VISITING TEAMS THAT ARE DEPENDENT ON LILLY LAKE ARENA. 
          THE TWO LARGER BOXES ABOVE THOSE ARE RELOCATED. ZAMBONI ROOM, WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY ISN'T WELL SUITED FOR THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE ICE. IT'S IN THE CORNER, AND THAT REALLY CREATES A GROOVE THAT CAN INHIBIT SOME PLAY, BUT IT ALSO DESIGNATES SOME SPACE FOR AN AMMONIA SYSTEM, WHICH WOULD BE AN UPDATE FROM THE EXISTING R 22. THE NEXT IS A HOW THIS FITS ON THE SITE PLAN. SO THE BLUE ARROWS ARE INDICATING WHERE SPECTATORS WOULD ENTER ON THE RIGHT. AND THEN ON THE LEFT SIDE WOULD BE WHERE THE ATHLETES ARE. YOU WOULD ALSO SEE THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING TWO DIFFERENT ZONES. THE WAY WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT WAS THOSE COULD BE BUILT IN PHASES, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY COMMIT ONE PHASE AS BEING THE FIRST PHASE OR OVER THE OTHER. WE DID ADVISE THE REPRESENTATIVES THAT WE MET WITH THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS MORE OF YOUR FACILITY NEEDS AND ADDRESS A LOT OF YOUR ACCESSIBILITY CONSTRAINTS AND MOST OF YOUR PROGRAMMATIC REQUESTS BY ADDRESSING PHASE OR ZONE ONE AS A PRIMARY PHASE. IF THERE WAS ANY DEFICIENCIES FOR ADDITIONAL LOCKER ROOMS, THOSE COULD EXIST WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING FOOTPRINT, MUCH LIKE THEY ARE NOW. OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULDN'T BE THE LONG TERM SOLUTION. SO THAT'S WHY THE ADDITIONAL FOUR COMMUNITY LOCKER ROOMS ARE SHOWN ON THE SOUTH END. THERE HAVE SOME RENDERINGS TO KIND OF HELP GIVE A FLAVOR OF WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. THE WHITE ROOF THERE IS THE EXISTING THE GREEN IS GONE. 
          DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE COLORS THAT WE'RE SHOWING, BUT SOME OF THE AMENITIES OR THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAD FROM AN ESTHETIC CONCEPTUAL STANDPOINT, REALLY ORIGINATED AROUND BRICK WOOD, INCREASED BRANDING AND REALLY, AGAIN, HIGHLIGHT THE VIEWS INTO THE BUILDING OUTSIDE, FROM THE BUILDING TOWARDS THE REST OF THE PARK AND THE LAKE. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE EXISTING LOOKS LIKE ON THE UPPER RIGHT. NEXT IS IS IN THE LOBBY. SO YOU'D BE STANDING AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF IT WITH A VIEW. BACK ON THE LEFT SIDE IS THE ENTRY VESTIBULE WITH SOME SOFT SEATING SHOWN THERE. ONE OF THE BENEFITS BEYOND THE VESTIBULE IS THE WINDOW TO THE OFFICE, SO THE RINK MANAGER WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO PASSIVELY SUPERVISE ACTIVITIES INTO THE. AND ANY CONGREGATION THAT MIGHT BE OCCURRING IN THE LOBBY. WE'RE SHOWING TWO TVS. THAT'S WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW. WE CAN ADD. THAT'S KIND OF SUPPLEMENTAL STUFF, BUT WE WANT TO SHOW LIKE WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING AND AWARE OF WHAT THE EXISTING FACILITY OFFERS. YOU CAN GET A GLIMPSE INTO THE ARENA BEYOND WHAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED AS LIKE, WE REALLY LIKE THE HISTORIC OLDER, SMALLER BARNS THAT MINNESOTA HAS. AND WE THINK THAT LILY LAKE ALREADY IS ONE, AND WE CAN ENHANCE THE ESTHETICS TO BOLSTER ITS PREVALENCE EVEN MORE SO, AND THEN INTRODUCE THE CONCESSIONS THAT WOULD OPERATE AS A CONCESSION STAND. SO, AND THAT WOULD OPEN UP TO THE LOBBY SPACE. AND THEN THE LAST RENDERING IS VIEW LOOKING FROM THE SOUTH TOWARDS LILY LAKE. SO REALISTICALLY, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS IS THE EXPANSIVE GLASS TO THE RIGHT SIDE. AGAIN, REAL EASY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE VISITING TO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO. REALLY GREAT VIEWS FOR CONGREGATION, BETWEEN PERIODS, BETWEEN GAMES FOR THEM TO BE THERE, ABOUT FACING TO THE NORTH. NOT ONLY IS LILY LAKE A GREAT FOCAL FEATURE VISUALLY, BUT FACING NORTH, YOU GET A LOT OF DIFFUSED DAYLIGHT, INDIRECT DAYLIGHT COMING IN. SO IT'S A VERY BRIGHT, WELCOMING, WARM SPACE. THEN COST ESTIMATES WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGED HOW THE COST ESTIMATES EVOLVED ALONG THE WAY AS WELL. SO JUST FOR SOME GRAPHIC CLARITY, THE DARK BLUE IS THE RENOVATION EXTENT. THE LIGHT BLUE WOULD BE EXPANSION. AND THEN THE RED LINE IS THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT PRIORITY ONE. YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A DIP BETWEEN THE FIRST CONCEPT AND THE REMAINING FOUR. AGAIN, THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE'RE TRYING TO, IN CONCEPT ONE, ADDRESS ALL THE FACILITY 
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ASSESSMENT FINDINGS WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING FOOTPRINT. SO THAT NECESSITATED US REACHING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THERE. IF WE EXPAND THE BUILDING, SOME THINGS KIND OF FALL OFF THE RADAR ON THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. THE EXISTING RESTROOMS ARE NOT ONES THAT WE NEED TO UPDATE. SO WE CLEAR THOSE OUT, BUILD NEW ONES. THAT REDUCES SOME OF THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT, FINDING COMPONENTS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. AND THEN JUST TO FURTHER BRING BACK IN THE ZONED LENS THAT WE LOOKED AT, IF IT WERE TO BE CONSTRUCTED ALL, ALL IN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW FOR ZONES ONE AND TWO, WHICH IS THE ADDITIONS, AND THE RENOVATION IS A LITTLE OVER 8 MILLION, WITH THE LARGER LIFT HAPPENING IN ZONE ONE, THE NORTH END AT 4.8. AND THEN MY EYES ARE GOING BAD. AND THEN ZONE TWO IS 3.5 MILLION. SO. THAT'S WHAT WE LOOKED AT TO DATE. WE HAD A REALLY GOOD INPUT, AND I THINK THAT IT WAS A GREAT PROCESS FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE TESTING THE WATERS ALONG THE WAY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T MISSING THE MARK ON ANYTHING. AND AGAIN, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING FOR THE RENDERINGS IS A DESIGN INTENT. THEY'RE NOT FINAL. THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR US AND RESPONSIVE. ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON THAT TO WITH THE LAST COST ESTIMATE THAT THIS ONE GUY. YES. 
          SO BASICALLY IN ZONE ONE, THAT WOULD INCLUDE GETTING EVERYTHING UP TO CODE CORRECT, AS WELL AS THE ZONE ONE IMPROVEMENTS. GOTCHA. YEP, YEP. SO IS THERE AN ESTIMATED COST DIFFERENTIAL? IF WE DID PHASE THIS OUT AND SAID OKAY, ZONE ONE LOOKS GOOD. WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT NOW BECAUSE WE BASICALLY HAVE TO SPEND $4 MILLION TO FIX THIS PLACE. 
          ANYWAY, IT LOOKS LIKE ZONE ONE WOULD BE UNDER 5 MILLION. YES. AND THEN IF WE WANTED TO DO ZONE TWO LATER, LIKE WHAT'S I GUESS WHAT'S THERE IS A DIFFERENCE HERE. I'M GUESSING I JUST CAN'T DO THAT MATH THAT QUICK. YEAH. NO, NOR CAN I. THAT WOULD BE THESE NUMBERS REPRESENT IF THEY WERE ALL DONE AT THE SAME TIME. RIGHT. GOTCHA. SO THE ONLY THE ONLY LOSS REALISTICALLY WOULD BE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL MOBILIZATION AND POTENTIAL TYING IN OF SOME UTILITIES, LIKE A SANITARY SYSTEM, WITH THERE BEING LOCKER ROOMS, THERE'S GOING TO BE FOR DRAINS, RESTROOMS FOR DRAINS, WATER SUPPLY, BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO UNDO A WHOLE LOT FROM WHAT THE FIRST ZONE WAS IDENTIFYING. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S TOUGH TO HAVE AN INVESTMENT THAT YOU NEED TO LIKE, TEAR APART TO GET ITS NEXT ITERATION IN. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THESE BEING SEPARATE AREAS OF WORK. SO IT IS FEASIBLE TO DO ZONE ONE FIRST AND THEN ZONE TWO LATER. ABSOLUTELY. AND REALISTICALLY YOU COULD DO ZONE TWO FIRST AS WELL. OKAY. THAT WOULDN'T. THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS THAT WOULD PROMPT US TO NEED TO MAKE SOME ACCESSIBILITY UPGRADES BY CODE. WE NEED TO ALLOCATE A CERTAIN PORTION OF FUNDS FOR A PROJECT TO MAKING THOSE TYPES OF UPGRADES. BUT AS THAT IS THAT ACCESSIBILITY DIAGRAM IDENTIFIED, THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN CAPTURE THAT. GOTCHA. THAT'S GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. THEY'VE DONE A NICE JOB. AND. I GUESS YOU CAN KIND OF BLAME ME FOR GETTING IT STARTED. BLUE LAKE IS, I WOULD SAY LILY LAKE IS LIKE 60 YEARS OLD. AND THEY HAVE THE SKATE FOR THE ROSES FOR THE GIRLS IN STILLWATER. AND THE PEOPLE TEAMS COME FROM ALL OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST. YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE HOW MANY PHONE CALLS I GOT AT HOME ABOUT THE NASTINESS OF THE BATHROOMS, THE BATHROOMS. I GOT A FEW OF THOSE AS WELL, AND PEOPLE HAVE TO GO TO THE GAS STATIONS. THEY REFUSE TO USE THE BATHROOMS IN THERE. AND IT'S JUST, IT'S IT'S OLD. I MEAN, I MEAN, WHEN MY KIDS WERE PLAYING HOCKEY, I HAD THE STS PROGRAM PAINTED THE LAST TIME. SO THAT HAD TO BE 30 YEARS AGO. AND THAT NEVER WAS TOUCHED BEFORE THAT. AND IT NEEDS A FACELIFT SOMEHOW. BUT HOW WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT, RIGHT? SO BUT THAT'S IT MAKES IT MORE FEASIBLE, USABLE FOR THE, FOR OUR CITIZENS THAN THAT. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY DOWN THERE IN GENERAL, FRANKLY, RIGHT? WITH THE BALL FIELDS AND THE TENNIS AND THE BASKETBALL AND THE FOOTBALL AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE EVERYTHING TO HAVE LIKE DECENT RESTROOMS DOWN THERE FOR PEOPLE, I THINK WOULD MAKE SENSE. LIKE, RIGHT. LIKE IT'S NOT A GOOD I MEAN, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK. IT'S OUR BIGGEST PARK AND IT'S GORGEOUS. 
          AND THE, THE RESTROOM FACILITIES AND ACCESSIBILITY ARE TERRIBLE. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, JUST HAVING THE MATH THAT IT'S $4 MILLION TO FIX IT, YOU KNOW, $8 MILLION TO GET IT TO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF, RIGHT? LIKE I HAVE A HARD TIME. I MEAN, NO ONE LIKES THAT BILL, RIGHT? I USED TO HAVE AN OLD HOUSE IN STILLWATER, RIGHT? GOT TO SPEND 100 GRAND. NOTHING LOOKS ANY DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE CHECK TO WRITE, YOU KNOW. WELL, WE LOOKED AT IT. WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE ROOF. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T ERASE THAT ROOF BECAUSE THE ROOF IS LOW. BUT 
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FOR LITTLE KIDS AND THAT IT'S PERFECT. IT'S PERFECT. AND IT NEEDS A FACELIFT. BAD. SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? LIKE, WHEN DO WE LOOK AT FINANCES FOR THIS? BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE REC CENTER BUDGET'S KIND OF DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER THINGS WE DO. SO WE'RE WORKING ON CREATING A COMPREHENSIVE FACILITY PLAN AND KIND OF FORECASTING FOR FINANCES AND EVERYTHING. AND THIS IS GOING TO POP UP IN OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA TOO. YEAH. COOL. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. AWESOME. WELL, I THINK YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. IT SPELLS IT OUT VERY CLEARLY. OBVIOUSLY, I WISH THE NUMBER TO FIX IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LESS. THAT WAS A LITTLE SURPRISING, BUT NOT REALLY LIKE WELL, WE ACTUALLY SEAN AND I AND DOUG AND WE MET WITH THE HOCKEY ASSOCIATION TODAY. THEY'RE THE WILD HAVE MONEY TO GO. HOCKEY NUMBERS ARE BREAKING AT THE SEAMS. I THINK THEY SAID LIKE 130 MORE KIDS ARE JUST MIGHT SIGNING UP FOR HOCKEY THIS YEAR. STILLWATER IS NOW THE THIRD BIGGEST HOCKEY ASSOCIATION IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. AND THEY HAVE A GRANT TO PUT OUTDOOR ICE. BUT PUT A ROOF OVER THE OUTDOOR ICE. 
          AND THE WILD ARE PAYING FOR THE. PLANS TO DEVELOP PLANS AND HOW WE LOOK AT THINGS. SO WE. WE GAVE THEM SOME IDEAS OF PLACES TO POSSIBLY PUT THAT IN STILLWATER THAT WOULD WOULD MEET THEIR NEEDS, BUT IT'S A LOT CHEAPER THAN A LOT CHEAPER THAN BUILDING A NEW RINK. AND DOUG, WITH THIS, LIKE THESE CONCEPTS, LIKE YOU OBVIOUSLY LOOKED AT ALL THIS STUFF AND YEAH, YOU KNOW, THE IT'S GREAT, I LOVE IT. I THINK EVERYBODY THAT LOOKS AT IT SAYS IT'S GREAT IF YOU PHASE IT IN. THE ONLY THING IS, IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO CRAPPY LOCKER ROOMS, RIGHT? AND THEN TWO NICE ONES. AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FIXING A CAR OR WHATEVER. YOU FIX IT, YOU FIX THE WHOLE THING, RIGHT? YOU DON'T. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, KIND OF I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING. LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD GRUMBLE ABOUT THAT INSTEAD OF BE LIKE, OH, THIS IS FANTASTIC. RIGHT? THEY HAVE THAT SAW I YET AND YOU THINK, I MEAN, REVENUE WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS, RIGHT? YOU'D GET MORE UTILIZATION OUT OF THIS IF WE FIX IT UP. WE DID ALL THE THINGS, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY LIKE IT WOULD KEEP US GOING INTO THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT 20 TO 50 YEARS. RIGHT, RIGHT. LAST ONE LAST IT'S 60. RIGHT. SO I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS TO GET IT THERE. OKAY. AWESOME. COOL. WELL THANK YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT. THANK YOU. IT'S, IT'S A REALLY NICE PLAN. AND IT GIVES US SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, HE RYAN CAN SHOW PEOPLE IN HIS WARD. YEAH. AND IT'S NOT I MEAN, IT'S NOT OVER THE TOP. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT SEEMED UNNECESSARY. IT'S TO FIX IT UP. RIGHT. I MEAN AND IT'S SOMETHING, AGAIN, WE CAN BE PROUD OF BECAUSE THAT PLACE IS A BIT OF AN EMBARRASSMENT. WHEN I SAW THAT IT'S FREEZING COLD, THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY WARMER ON THE INSIDE OF THAT PLACE. 
          THAT'S WHY IT HAS SUCH GOOD. KEEP IT COLD TO KEEP THAT ICE. THAT'S WHY IT HAS SUCH A GOOD ICE. YEAH, I LIKE THAT. THE INTENT. THE REQUEST IS PLACED TO KEEP KEEP THE ROOF LINE WHERE IT'S AT. I PLAYED IN THERE AS A KID. YEAH, YEAH. AND I WAS TALKING TO MY DAD ABOUT THAT AND I REMEMBER IT. IT WAS COLD. YEAH. IT WAS BRIGHT. YEAH. BUT EVERYBODY SAID YOU HAD THE BEST ICE IN MINNESOTA. I GREW UP IN ROSEVILLE, SO I'D MUCH RATHER PLAY HERE. THE ICE IS ALWAYS WARM THERE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. AWESOME. WELL THANKS AGAIN. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING OUT, YOU GUYS. THANK YOU FOR STOPPING OUT. YEAH. PLEASE LEFT HERE. ANY OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 2027 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA 
          [2. 2027 Legislative Agenda]
COUNCIL. EVERY YEAR, THE CITY ADOPTS A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR FOCUS PROJECTS ON STILLWATER. 
          WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THIS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, WHETHER IT'S THE RIVERFRONT PARKS, MYRTLE STREET AND WASHINGTON AVENUE. THIS YEAR, WE'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE LAKE NUMBER ONE BASED ON A PRESENTATION THAT YOU JUST SAW, AND THEN THE REC CENTER EXPANSION OR THE CURLING CENTER AS NUMBER TWO, WE THINK THOSE ARE GOING TO BE IN LINE WITH WHERE WE WERE FOR FUNDS TO SUPPLEMENT A REGIONAL PROJECT HERE, AND WE THINK WE WOULD HAVE THE BEST SUCCESS GOING FORWARD. I'M COOL WITH THAT. ANYBODY? KEEPING IN MIND WE'RE GOING TO GET A LONG RANGE BUILDING KIND OF PLAN OR SKETCH OUT PROBABLY THIS FALL OR EARLY NEXT YEAR. THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER, WE COULD HAVE GONE CRAZY ON THIS PLAN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING. IT'S REALLY IT'S LIMITED DOWN THERE. SO I THINK THIS IS A BIG IMPROVEMENT. I LIKE I LIKE YOUR PLAN. I THINK IT'S GREAT. YEAH. I MEAN, I'M SURE DOUG CAN RUN SOME NUMBERS AND MODELS. I'M JUST GOT TO HAVE MORE UTILIZATION. THERE'S GOT TO BE MORE BENEFIT OR ACCESS FOR TOURNAMENTS AND STUFF. YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WE CAN SEE A LITTLE BUMP IN REVENUE TO HELP SUPPORT THIS WHOLE THING. SO YEAH, IT JUST COMES DOWN TO FINANCE. I DEFINITELY WANT TO DO IT. JUST GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT. THAT'S YOUR JOB. COOL. 
          [3. Assistant City Administrator]
          [00:25:05]
ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY COOL WITH THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA? PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. WELL WITH THAT, LET'S MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS. SO ASSISTANT CITY ADMINISTRATOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WAS TOLD TO KEEP IT BRIEF TONIGHT. OH YEAH. WE HAVE A LITTLE THING GOING ON UP AT THE FIRE STATION, BUT JUST A FEW UPDATES. AS YOU KNOW, THE CURVE CREST ROAD IS NOW OPEN. ROUNDABOUTS OPEN, OPEN. LAST WEEK WITH GOOD COMMENTS. THE THURSDAY WE HAVE THE BID OPENING FOR THE SHODDY MILL BERGSTEIN WAREHOUSE PROJECT. NEXT MONDAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE START WORKING ON THE CIVIL LANDING THIS PAST MONDAY. YESTERDAY WE HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE TO TALK ABOUT SIGNAGE, AMONG OTHER THINGS, FOR THE LUMBERJACK LANDING SITE. 
          AND IT WENT WELL. AND I THINK IN THE NEXT MEETING OR TWO, WE'LL BRING BACK WITH ANOTHER PROPOSAL FOR SIGNAGE, PLAN FOR THAT, FOR THAT PARK. OKAY. THINGS ARE GOING WELL. YOUR RENOVATION. IS GOOD. THE PD, THE LOCKER ROOM IS GOT ITS FINAL INSPECTION AND WAS APPROVED. RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT DELAYING OPENING A LITTLE BIT TO DO SOME TILE WORK AND SOME BATHROOM FIXTURE WORK IN THE LOCKER ROOM. SO YEAH, PERFECT. THANKS, JOHN. JOHN. 
          JOHN HAS DONE AN AWESOME JOB WITH. THE MEETING WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND THE WILD RIVER CONSERVANCY IS JUST AMAZING. AMAZING. YEAH. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN UP THERE WITH THE SIGNAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, SEAN'S LEADERSHIP IS AMAZING. IT'S ELIZABETH. I FORGET ABOUT ELIZABETH WEATHER, BUT IT'S IT'S PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE. IT'S GOING TO BE AN AWESOME IT'S GOING TO BE AN AWESOME AMENITY TO THE CITY OF STILLWATER. AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING CRAZY EXCITED ABOUT IT. I HAD SOME RANDOM PERSON STOP BY MY HOUSE THE OTHER DAY, WHICH IS BECOMING A BIT OF A THING. LIKE NOT ALWAYS THE GREATEST, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NICE JUST TO TELL ME, LIKE, SHE RAN INTO SOMEBODY THAT WORKED FOR SOMEBODY AT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND COULDN'T WAIT AND WAS ALL SORTS OF EXCITED. AND IT WAS LOVELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY LOVELY. SO YEAH, I'M JUST EXCITED. SO AND I KNOW YOU GUYS GET ALL GET, GET THE CALLS LIKE I DO FROM A CERTAIN PERSON IN STILLWATER. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT PUTTING A BIRD IDENTIFICATION THING ON, ON ONE OF THE TRAILS UP THERE TO MAKE IT USABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY OR, YOU KNOW, INFORM PEOPLE ABOUT BIRDS. I WANT ONE OF THOSE OLD SCHOOL TOP OF THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING TELESCOPES. YEAH. SO YOU CAN CHECK OUT THE ROOKERY ON THE RIVER, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN SPOT SOME BIRDS. I'M GONNA FIND ONE. I'M GONNA GET SOMEBODY TO DONATE ONE OF THOSE THINGS. DUDE, THAT'D BE AWESOME STUFF. IT'D BE DOPE, I LIKE IT. 
          [4. Police Chief]
AWESOME. THANKS, SEAN. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE, CHIEF. OH, IT'S PINK MONTH, RIGHT? IT IS. COBRA. 
          IT IS. I WASN'T TOLD TO BE SHORT, SO I JUST HAVE, LIKE 20 MINUTES, RIGHT? I JUST I WANT TO POINT OUT SEAN, HIS GROUP, HE'S HAD A LOT OF HURDLES THROWN AT HIM. HE ASKED HIM ABOUT THE PD STUFF AND I'M JUST APPRECIATIVE OF HIS WORK AND, AND WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO. 
          LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF HURDLES THROWN AT HIM. AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF THAT THEY HAVE GOING ON IN THE PD. 
          SO GRATEFUL FOR SEAN'S WORK. NOT A LOT FROM THE PD. JUST GOT THROUGH ART FEST, WHICH WAS AWESOME. THANKS. YOU KNOW, CAPTAIN JULIAN AND AND SERGEANT WILSON KIND OF LEADING THE WAY, BUT WE HAD OUR TROOPS DOWN THERE WORKING AND REALLY BUSY ON SATURDAY. NOT AS BUSY ON SUNDAY, BUT STILL A GREAT TURNOUT. AND KNOCK ON WOOD, NOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, NOTHING NEGATIVE LOOKING IN HARVEST FEST THIS COMING WEEKEND, WHICH IS FIVE DEGREES BOTH DAYS WE'RE GOING TO GET ROCKED CRAZY THIS WEEKEND. ROCKED FOR SURE THIS WEEKEND AND STILL BE FUN. WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF MISSING KIDS AND MISSING MISSING CELL PHONES, BUT WE'LL TAKE THAT FOR SURE. 
          YOU SEE, I AM WEARING BLUE BECAUSE IT IS UNITED WAY WEEK. AND SO WE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON. WE HAD DARN IT. ANYWAY, WE HAD DONUTS THIS MORNING, SO PERFECT FOR COPS. 
          BUT TOMORROW'S WEAR BLUE. AND THEN ON THURSDAY IS OUR SHERIFF'S CLAY SHOOT, WHICH I CAN'T MAKE IT DUE TO WORK. I'M SUBBING FOR HIM. SO THE MAYOR IS. HE'S OUR DEADEYE SHOT. AND I WAS ALL EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND I CAN'T MAKE IT EITHER. ME EITHER. YEAH, THERE'S A FEW. 
          WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE DATE NEXT YEAR. THIS IS TWICE IN A ROW LIKE I'VE GOT. I'M SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE REGIONAL COUNCIL OF MAYORS MEETING. LIKE THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF GOING ON THAT DAY, LIKE SO. BUT IT'S STILL A GREAT EVENT. A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET COOKIES UP AT KEYS, UNITED WAY COOKIES, ALL THIS TO SUPPORT BOARD MEMBERS. SO THAT'S WHY I BRING THAT HERE. AND WEARING BLUE JUST TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR THE UNITED WAY. 
          LASTLY, ALSO, WE JUST HAVE JOE TALKED ABOUT LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR THE CITY. WE ALSO HAVE THAT FOR THE MINNESOTA CHIEFS OF POLICE ASSOCIATION, WHICH I'M BORN ON. WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH. 
          WE'RE KIND OF WE'VE RECEIVED ALL OF OUR INFORMATION. THERE'LL BE A LOT OF THINGS ON THERE WITH DATA RETENTION FLOCK, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TOO. SO AS WE ANTICIPATE THE 2027 LEGISLATIVE SESSION ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE SIGNIFICANT ITEMS COMING 
          [00:30:01]
UP, I'VE TALKED TO OUR STATE DELEGATION AT THIS POINT, AND THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF THAT STUFF ON THEIR AGENDA AS WELL. SO WE'LL GET SOME HELP FROM THE STATE ON SOME OF THAT STUFF. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOU AND HUNTER FOR PREPARING THAT WONDERFUL REPORT. YEAH. ON POLICE CALLS. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. KEY FOR US. YEAH. KEVIN. JULIAN. AND THEN OUR, OUR STAFF DATA SPECIALIST KIND OF LOOKING AT ALL THAT INFORMATION AND GATHERING THAT. SO THEY WENT FAR AND ABOVE WITH, IT'S AWESOME TO READ. IT'S VERY YEAH. WITH THAT REAL CLEAR, REAL QUICK. MIKE. SO MIKE'S REFERRING TO THE, THE, SOME OF THE HOTELS UP ON 36 AND COUNTY OPERATIONS AND WHATNOT. THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IS I KNOW CHIEF, AND I TALKED TO JOE AND I TALKED TO THE RIVER TOWN RESIDENTS, WHATEVER IT IS, I WAS WONDERING, AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE OF A COREY QUESTION, BUT WE'VE GOT OUR PROBLEM PROPERTY ORDINANCE. AND I THOUGHT AT ONE POINT WE HAD ONE WHERE IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, X NUMBER OF POLICE CALLS OR WHATEVER, THAT WAS LIKE PART OF AN OLDER ORDINANCE WE HAD MAYBE AT SOME POINT, LIKE, I KNOW WE HAD SOME RENTAL PROPERTIES WHERE WE APPLIED SOME KIND OF PROBLEM PROPERTY ORDINANCE. AND IT WAS BASICALLY LIKE BASED ON VOLUME OF CALLS. AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD APPLY THAT TO THESE SAME PROBLEM PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T RESIDENTIAL HOUSES, LIKE A HOTEL OR THE STILLWATER RESIDENCE OR SOMETHING. BECAUSE LIKE SOME OF THE BEHAVIOR THAT I'M GETTING REPORTS OF LIKE NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH. AND COPS SEEM TO BE UP THERE FREQUENTLY AS IT IS, HOTELS ARE EASIER TO ADDRESS NOW THAT WE LICENSED THEM. OKAY. OH, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THREATEN TO REVOKE THEIR LICENSE. WELL, THEN YEAH, THEN LET'S, LET'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DECISION POINTS OR DATA POINTS WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I'D BE ALL IN FAVOR FOR IT. BECAUSE IF I GET ANOTHER EMAIL FROM A PARENT WHO MISTAKENLY BOOKED A ROOM THERE FOR A KIDS HOCKEY TOURNAMENT AND THEY'RE WALKING INTO NO, LIKE, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE OWNERS ARE OPERATING IN GOOD FAITH OR TRYING TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY OR TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS. AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BETTER MANAGE NOW THAT WE HAVE SOME BETTER TOOLS IN PLACE. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAINTS FOR A COUPLE OF THOSE OTHER SPECIFIC PROPERTIES. SO HOWEVER THAT WORKS, LET'S DO IT. WELL, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WILL I CONCUR WITH YOU ON THAT AS WELL. VISITING HOCKEY TEAMS TO TOWN. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT SOME OF THE NUMBERS ARE LOWER THAN THEY HAD BEEN. 
          AND, COUNCIL MEMBER, I TOLD YOU THAT, BUT A LOT OF THAT IS THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE BY OUR OFFICERS. SO THEY ARE ADDRESSING THIS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WITH THE SAME INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STAYING THERE AWAY FROM THOSE PLACES. SO DON'T MISCONSTRUE THE DROP IN NUMBERS AS SOME OF THAT IS JUST SIMPLY REALLY GOOD POLICE WORK BEING COPS. I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT THERE OBVIOUSLY A PROBLEM, RIGHT? AND YOU KNOW, IMAGINE IF THAT ONE OF THOSE HOTELS WAS SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? YOU AND I, ALL OF US WOULD BE HEARING ABOUT THAT ON A DAILY, IF NOT HOURLY BASIS FROM CONCERNED NEIGHBORS. RIGHT? BUT BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IS, WE'RE KIND OF ALLOWING THIS TO CONTINUE. AND SO I WOULD I WOULD FRANKLY LIKE TO BE DONE WITH IT, LIKE, OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY'VE GOT TO OPERATE BETTER AND, AND TAKE BETTER CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY FROM AN ESTHETIC STANDPOINT, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S GARBAGE AND CRAP ALL OVER THERE. AND OUR OFFICERS DID ADDRESS THERE WAS A OFFLINE CONCERN AS TO WHAT OUR RESIDENTS. AND WE WORKED REALLY WELL WITH THEIR MANAGEMENT. ABSOLUTELY. OUR CORE UNIT WENT OUT THERE, KIND OF DREW THAT SAME LINE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. AND SOME OF THOSE CALLS KIND OF CAME DOWN TO ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S NO LONGER THERE. YEAH. OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. PERFECT. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF, I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. WHATEVER WE CAN DO, I'LL CALL YOU LATER ABOUT IT. ABOUT ANOTHER ONE. AWESOME. NO, I GOT MORE THAN THAT. OKAY. TED'S TALKING ABOUT. I JUST. I'LL TALK TO YOU PERSONALLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK 
          [6. IT Manager]
YOU. HEY. THANK YOU. CHIEF. I'M SORRY MARK'S GONE. I T. I WAS JUST EXCITED. YO, YO, YO. 
          WHAT'S UP? WHAT'S UP? HOW ARE WE DOING? IT'S NICE TO SEE YOUR SMILING FACE. FANTASTIC. LET'S SEE. NOT A WHOLE LOT GOING ON. WELL, FIRST, AS LONG AS WE'RE THROWN OUT. THANK YOU. AND RECOGNITION. I JUST LIKE TO SHINE A LIGHT ON CHIEF MUELLER AND HIS DEDICATION AND ABILITY TO SPOT PHISHING EMAILS, AND HOW THAT'S LEADING BY EXAMPLE. I REPORT MORE IF I GET THREE EMAILS AFTER I HIT THE REPORT BUTTON. I MEAN, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH SHIT TO DELETE. NOTED. 
          FEEDBACK IS ACCEPTED. SO WITH THAT, A COUPLE THINGS HAPPENING. WE'RE CONTINUING ON WITH OUR NETWORKING PROJECT THAT I KEEP GETTING UPDATES ON. RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST PREPPING TO DO THE LIBRARY, JUST WORK THROUGH THAT PROJECT. ALSO WITH THAT, WE DID HAVE A ONE OF OUR CRUCIAL FIBER INFRASTRUCTURE HIT A WEEK OR SO AGO THAT KIND OF CONNECTS SOME OF THE LOCATIONS TOGETHER. BUT BECAUSE YOU GUYS APPROVED THAT NS SOLUTION THAT I HAD PROPOSED AND HAD THAT IN PLACE, WE PUT THE DONE IN REDUNDANCY AND WE DIDN'T FEEL ANY FELT OUTAGE FROM THAT. SO THAT WAS GOOD. 
          [00:35:03]
ANYTHING OUT AT THIS PLACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DEAL WITH THIS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY IN PLACE. YEAH, WE JUST GOT TO KIND OF TURN IT UP A LITTLE BIT IF IT'S GOING TO BE USED MORE. SO OKAY, WE'RE COVERED THERE. AND THEN THE FINAL UPDATE IS JUST DUE TO SOME LOGISTICAL ISSUES WITH INSTALLATION OF BACKING AT THE APPLE HOUSE FOR AV EQUIPMENT. WE HAD A SLIGHT DELAY ON THAT. BUT WORKING WITH OUR VENDOR, WE SHOULD HAVE IT INSTALLED AND IN PLACE BEFORE THE WEEK OF THE 27TH. OKAY. THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE 27TH YET, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DATE HAS TO DO WITH ANYTHING. BUT IT SHOULD BE READY TO GO FOR WHAT? BEFORE THAT DATE? AWESOME. YOU KNOW, I WAS ASKED THIS AFTERNOON, IS THERE GOING TO BE LIKE A PA SYSTEM IN THERE TO MICROPHONE AND SPEAKER BY PA? I MEAN, IF WE DO, IF WE DID EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS IN THERE. YEAH. IN THE, THE, THE BIGGER ROOM, BIG ROOM. THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY ROOM I WAS THINKING ABOUT. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S PART OF THE DEAL. OKAY. 
          BUT NOT THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING. YOU WANT YOUR HEADLIGHTS ON. AND NO, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. YEAH. OKAY. AWESOME. ANYTHING ELSE? ROB? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, BUDDY. AND HR. 
          [7. Human Resource Manager]
HOW ARE WE? HI. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO IT WAS. I'M THE NEW KID, RIGHT. CONGRATS. 
          WELCOME. THANK YOU. SO I'M ALLISON, THE HR MANAGER. STARTING WEEK FOR THIS WEEK. 
          WOW, WOW. YEAH, IT'S GOING BY QUICKLY, BUT IT'S BEEN GREAT. EVERYONE'S BEEN VERY WELCOMING HELPING ANSWER THE HR MANAGER. THEY HAVE TO BE I GUESS. BUT YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I GUESS I'M JUST KIND OF LEARNING SYSTEMS, THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW WE HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT ON THE HORIZON AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT POLICIES, IF WE NEED ANY UPDATES OR ANYTHING GOING INTO 2027. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, JUST KIND OF SOAKING IT ALL IN AND IT'S BEEN GREAT. AWESOME. WHERE DID YOU COME FROM? ALLISON? I WAS AT REPUBLIC SERVICES FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. WAIST TALLER, SO TALLER BLUE TRUCKS. OH, THE GREEN. GOTCHA. SO THAT WAS THE BLUE, THE BLUE SIDE. OKAY. YEAH. SO STILL IN THE COMMUNITY. I GREW UP IN COTTAGE GROVE. SO EXCITED TO BE HERE. COOL. YEAH. NICE TO MEET YOU. FINALLY MEET YOU. THANKS FOR 
          [8. Fire Chief]
THE AWESOME UPDATE AND THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, FIRE CHIEF. THROUGH THERE. STILL GOT THE TABLET OUT. I LIKE IT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. JUST A COUPLE UPDATES. 
          FULL TIME FIRE INTERVIEWS FOR OUR 24 HOUR SHIFT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE GOOD CANDIDATES THAT WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO. BACKGROUND. OUR PAID ON CALL PROCESS, THE BACKGROUNDS PD HAS COMPLETED, THE BACKGROUNDS ON OUR PAID ON CALL CANDIDATES, SO THOSE WILL BE MOVING FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP ON THAT. SO HOPEFULLY I'M GOING TO SAY WITHIN A MONTH AND A HALF, TWO MONTHS WE'LL HAVE THEM ON, BUT WE'RE STILL TOO SHORT ON THE FULL TIME AND PROBABLY 12. WE'LL BE 12 SHORT ON THE CALL. SO WORKING ON IT, WE'LL GET THERE HOPEFULLY BY END OF YEAR, FULL TIME. DOES IT LOOK GOOD ENOUGH? FIRE UNIFORM OF SORTS, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. 
          COUNCIL PERSON TO TO WEAR THAT UNIFORM. FIRE PREVENTION. WE'VE BEEN CRANKING AWAY ON THAT FOR TWO WEEKS. WE'VE DONE ALL THE SCHOOLS. WE HAVE RUTHERFORD ON THURSDAY AND THAT'LL BE THE LAST K THROUGH FIVE SCHOOL TO HIT. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING TWO WEEKS WILL BE PRESCHOOLS. OKAY. 
          SO THAT'LL KIND OF WIPE OUT OCTOBER. AND THEN THE CHIEFS WILL BE WE GOT THE MINNESOTA FIRE CHIEFS CONFERENCE NEXT WEEK. SO THE THREE CHIEFS WILL BE UP THERE FOR THAT AT THIS YEAR IN DULUTH. SO WE'LL BE UP THERE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON TO FRIDAY AFTERNOON. SO IT'S GOING TO GO UP FOR THE TWO DAYS AND COME BACK HOME. SO COOL. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD CHIEF. JUST A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE OF DINNER TONIGHT AFTER COUNCIL. THANK YOU. WE'LL 
          [9. Finance Director]
GET UP THERE. CAN'T WAIT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. FINANCE. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. SO WE HAD OUR BOND SALE TODAY. HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE DID STAY AT A TRIPLE A TWO OR BOND RATING. 
          DID NOT GO DOWN. EVERY YEAR THEY KIND OF MOVE THE TARGET IS HOW WE CAN MAKE IT GO UP. BUT WE DIDN'T GO DOWN. WE HAD EIGHT BIDDERS TODAY ON OUR BOND SALE, AND WE SETTLED AT A 4.09 INTEREST RATE. SO A COUPLE ABOUT A WEEK AGO, THEY WERE SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE YEAH, 4.19. YEAH. IT WAS GOING TO BE CLOSER TO 4.849. AND THEN THEY CALLED US FRIDAY AND SAID, OH, THEY'RE SETTLING DOWN A LITTLE BIT. SO WE'RE MOVING AGAIN. GOOD THINGS. YEAH. SO 
          [00:40:02]
AND BAKER TILLY WILL BE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU. COMMUNITY 
          [10. Community Development Director]
DEVELOPMENT. MAYOR COUNCIL. THE BIGGEST THING GOING ON IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS KIND OF OUR COMP PLAN OUTREACH. ELIZABETH AND I HAVE BEEN GOING TO I'VE BEEN SEEING IT. I'VE BEEN SEEING IT. YOU'RE DOING WELL. YOU'RE SEEING IT ON THE THE SENIOR EXPO, THE FARMER'S MARKET, THE ART FESTIVAL GOING TO HARVEST FEST THIS WEEKEND, JUST ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GO TO OUR WEBSITE, TAKE THE SURVEY, FILL OUT THE, THE INTERACTIVE MAP, DO THE CREATIVE WRITING EXPERIENCE, GET TO WRITE STILLWATER'S 2050 WIKIPEDIA PAGE. AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK. I KNOW WE HAD 60 TO 70 SURVEY RESULTS ALREADY, PLUS A LOT OF DOTS ON THE MAP. 
          SO THE BIG THING TO JUST NOTE IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE HERE ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 19TH IN THE EVENING, AND WE'LL HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS PLUS SOME OTHER INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS, JUST TO LET PEOPLE DROP BY AGAIN, EDUCATE THEM ABOUT THE COMP PLAN, COLLECT THOSE THOSE VISION IDEAS AS WE START WORKING ON THAT. IS THERE ANY JASON WITH US? LIKE, I KNOW, I KIND OF, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF I FELT BAD, BUT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN THE NEW HOSPITAL WAS BEING BUILT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME NEIGHBORS THAT WERE UPSET. LIKE THEY FELT LIKE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, RIGHT? THAT AS A COUNCIL AND AS OUR COMP PLAN, YOU KNOW, THAT USE HAD BEEN DETERMINED LIKE MANY YEARS AGO KIND OF THING. AND THEY'RE LIKE, HOW DO WE GET INVOLVED? LIKE, ARE THERE ANY PLACES IN STILLWATER WHERE IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO SAY, HEY, LIKE, IF YOU LIVE AROUND HERE, LIKE, AND YOU REALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMETHING OVER HERE COULD CHANGE RIGHT NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO GET INVOLVED BECAUSE WE'RE DRAFTING. I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF THE GENERAL MESSAGE TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, FRANKLY. BUT I JUST WONDER IF THERE ARE ANY THINGS LIKE OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD THAT YOU COULD THINK OF THAT WOULD THE TWO AREAS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO EXTENSIVE OUTREACH ARE AROUND THE OLD LAKEVIEW HOSPITAL. WHEN WE START WORKING ON THIS FOR THAT, WE'LL BE NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. AND THEN THAT HIGHWAY 36 CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE IMMEDIATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND GET THEM INVOLVED. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE LAND USE PLAN YET, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THAT'S NOT GOING TO VARY GREATLY. 
          THERE'S NO BIG CHANGES ON OUR HORIZON YET. IF SOMETHING DOES POP UP WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION SEES AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A CHANGE. WE PROBABLY DO SOME MORE OUTREACH JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW SO THEY AREN'T SURPRISED BY IT. FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU SAY, WELL, THE TIME TO COMMENT ON THAT WAS RIGHT YEARS AGO. GOTCHA. OKAY, COOL. AND JUST THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS THAT THIS WEEK, PUBLIC WORKS STARTED PUTTING ADDITIONAL PARKING SIGNS DOWNTOWN. THESE ARE NEW PASSPORT SIGNS THAT HAVE ADDITIONAL WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO TEXT TO PARK, AS WELL AS A QR CODE AND WEBSITE. WE OFTEN GET THE EXCUSE THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S PAID PARKING REQUIRED, AND NOW MORE SIGNS SHOULD HELP ADDRESS THAT. AND YOU CAN'T REALLY USE THAT WHEN THERE'S SIGNS EVERY FEW PARKING SPACES. SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE POPPING UP AND OUR QUICK STOP SIGNS HAVE BEEN GOING IN AS WELL. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL HELP WITH SOME OF THE PARKING DOWNTOWN. COOL. I LIKE IT, JASON. I'LL BRING IT UP. JASON AND I MET WITH THE CURLING GROUP TODAY. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE SMALL AREA STUDY BY THE HIGHWAY 36, THAT IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING GOOD TO LOOK AT IN THAT PLAN OF FRONT OF THE ICE ARENA FOR CURLING CENTER. SO THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. SO IF THERE IS A COMMUNITY SUPPORT TO EXPLORE THAT, THAT IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT IT IN THAT PLAN AND CARRY FORWARD INTO SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS. WE MET WITH THEM TODAY. OKAY, AWESOME. COOL. 
          [11. Administrative Services Director]
WELL, THANK YOU JASON. THANK YOU. JASON. ALL RIGHT. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. OH, THERE'S A SMILING EVERYONE. I ASKED JOE IF HE INTENTIONALLY MAKES ME GO LAST. SO EVERYBODY STEALS ALL THE THUNDER OF ALL THE. HE SAID TRY GOING DEAD LAST. THAT'S WHAT I. YEAH. LOTS OF COMMUNICATION STUFF HAPPENING. SUPPORTING THE COMP PLAN, THE LUMBERJACK LANDING, AS YOU WERE SAYING. THERE'S THERE IS LOTS OF QUESTIONS IN EVERY SORT OF CORNER. I'VE BEEN KIND OF KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE HAVE A FIRM PLAN. SO WE'RE STARTING WITH LIKE AN OUTLINE. AS SOON AS WE GET THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS THROUGH THE PARKS AND THROUGH COUNCIL, WE'LL HAVE A WEBSITE PRESENCE, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND WILD RIVERS ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT WE'RE WORKING ON OUTLINING A COMMUNICATION PLAN BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S QUESTIONS IN EVERY CORNER, AND THERE'S SOME THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER UNTIL WE GET IT GOING AND GET THROUGH THERE. BUT WE, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT ON THE BACKGROUND AND KNOW THAT THEY'LL NEED TO BE A PRETTY STRONG PLAN BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH INTEREST THERE. YEAH, THERE'S A LOT. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN I WENT TO THE WILD RIVERS BIG ANNUAL FUNDRAISER A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE WAS THERE. I MEAN, WE ALL WE ALL STILL HAVE QUESTIONS, RIGHT? I KNOW IF I DO, THEN I'M SURE THE COMMUNITY DOES AS WELL AS TO WHAT EXACTLY THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND IT IS HARD NOT TO KNOW BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO'S DOING WHAT, WHERE, WHEN AND HOW AND ALL THAT. SO I APPRECIATE KNOWING THAT YOU'VE GOT THIS ALL UNDER CONTROL AND YOU'RE DOING ONLINE TO THE BEST OF. I PARTICIPATED IN A, IN A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION YESTERDAY THAT ACTUALLY BLEW ME AWAY. IT WAS FROM NATIONAL PARKS, NATIONAL PARKS. AND I KNOW SHE'S BEEN INVOLVED, BUT SHE'S VERY SHE'S VERY MODEST ABOUT IT. BUT THE PRESENTATION BLEW ME AWAY. AND WHAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE UP THERE IS OUTSTANDING. IT'S OUTSTANDING. IT'S IT'S WHAT A WONDERFUL PLUS FOR THE COMMUNITY THIS IS GOING 
          [00:45:05]
TO BE. AND WE GOT SOME SUPER SHARP PARTNERS. NATE DID DO MOST OF THE WORK ON THAT. SO WE GOT SOME GREAT PARTNERS IN THAT. BUT YEAH, IT'S WE'LL HAVE THAT GUIDING DOCUMENT AND HAVE THE VISION OF HERE'S WHAT IT'S MEANT TO BE USED FOR. BUT THEN YES, THERE'S ALL THE QUESTIONS, WHAT ARE THE FEES, WHO CAN RENT, WHAT, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND IT, IT WILL TAKE TIME FOR IT ALL TO GET OUT THOUGH. YEAH, BUT WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET SOME BIG BIGGER TALKING POINTS AND GET SOME INFORMATION OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S, WE HAVE KIND OF BEEN, YOU KNOW, SLOWLY COMMUNICATING VERY LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. BUT YEAH, WE'RE ON IT. YEAH. OTHER THAN THAT, SUPPORTING LOTS OF DIFFERENT COMMUNICATION INITIATIVES, I SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT THE WEBSITE IS STILL ROLLING ON THE BACKGROUND. LOTS OF BEHIND THE SCENE WORK ON THAT, BUT WE SHOULD LAUNCH ON OCTOBER 28TH. SO THAT IS COMING UP QUICK. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. SO MUCH MORE EASY TO NAVIGATE, SO MUCH MORE EASY TO FIND STUFF, MUCH MORE INTUITIVE. SO THAT'S SUPER EXCITING. OTHER THAN THAT, LIKE YOU'VE HEARD, THE ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATION TEAM HAS BEEN BUSY. ROB AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN KILLING IT. ALLISON'S HITTING THE GROUND, CLERKS TEAM STAYS BUSY. SO LOTS OF BUSY FALL FOR FOR THE ADMIN GROUP. SO GRATEFUL FOR THEIR HARD WORK. AWESOME. THANK YOU. EXCITED FOR THE NEW SITE. BUT I WAS LOOKING AT ALL THESE OTHER CITIES WITH LIKE SOME OF THE FLOCK STUFF AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND I HAD A LITTLE, I HAD A LITTLE JEALOUSY ON SOME OF THESE OTHER CITY WEBSITES. SO WE'LL GET THERE. 
          [12. Deputy Clerk]
ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. DEPUTY CLERK, WHAT IS THIS? SORRY. GOOD EVENING. HOW ABOUT CITY CLERK? YES. CITY CLERK, JUST A FEW UPDATES. OUR ANNUAL MATTRESS CLEANUP PROGRAM WITH SECOND CHANCE RECYCLING HAS BEGUN SO RESIDENTS CAN SIGN UP AND HAVE THEIR USED MATTRESSES COLLECTED CURBSIDE FOR FREE DURING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT. SO GET ON OUR WEBSITE AND SIGN UP. 
          LIQUOR AND TOBACCO LICENSES. THE RENEWALS WENT OUT LAST FRIDAY. THEY ARE DUE NOVEMBER 1ST AND THERE WAS NO INCREASE IN FEES THIS YEAR. SO IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. ABSENTEE VOTING IS CURRENTLY OPEN, SO THERE ARE FIVE LOCATIONS IN WASHINGTON COUNTY WITH OUR CLOSEST ONE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AT WASHINGTON COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER. SO WITH THAT, JUST A REMINDER TO THE NOVEMBER 3RD COUNCIL MEETING HAS BEEN MOVED TO WEDNESDAY THE FOURTH BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION. OKAY. AND FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO KNOW THE HPC MEETING IN NOVEMBER HAS BEEN MOVED TO NOVEMBER 12TH DUE TO VETERANS DAY. SO OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AWESOME. AND WE HAVE A 430 ON THAT FOURTH, RIGHT? YES. AND I DO. AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE YOU SAID THE 12TH. THAT'S JUST LETTING YOU KNOW ABOUT HPC. OH, HPC. GOTCHA. OKAY. BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY. PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT. 
          [13. City Attorney]
AWESOME. THANK YOU. AND CITY ATTORNEY, JUST A QUICK THREE QUICK THINGS. AS YOU KNOW, WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE RUN INTO A, OH, WE DIDN'T REALIZE WE NEEDED ONE MORE THING. AND WITH THE LAKEVIEW PROJECT IT BEING SO MASSIVE, IT TURNS OUT WE NEED A STORM SEWER EASEMENT THAT JUTS INTO THEIR PROPERTY JUST A SMIDGE. OKAY, SO THAT WILL SHOW UP ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA IN THE NEAR FUTURE. NOTHING TO SEE HERE, PEOPLE. MOVE ALONG. IT'S JUST A LITTLE STORM SEWER EASEMENT. GOTCHA. SECONDLY, I'M STILL WORKING ON THE TUNNEL LEASE. THERE'S THERE IS A TUNNEL. WE HAVE A PROPOSED LEASE. I'M TALKING TO THE ATTORNEY TOMORROW. HE'S NOT SUPER EXCITED ABOUT HIS CLIENT ENTERING INTO A PAYMENT, YOU KNOW, MONTHLY PAYMENT FOR A TUNNEL THAT HE'S BEEN USING FOR WHO KNOWS HOW MANY YEARS. RIGHT. 
          SO WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I'M I'M GOING TO DIE ON THAT HILL, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET SOMETHING IN WRITING. YES. I THINK, I MEAN, WITH SOME OF THE WEIRD THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL DISCOVERED IN TOWN, LIKE I WOULD PREFER WE FOCUS ON JUST THE WRITING PART AND LESS ON THE FEE PART, AT LEAST FOR NOW, JUST TO GET SOMETHING ON PAPER BECAUSE LIABILITY, WE GOT SOME WEIRD STUFF. SO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO, TO GET SOMEONE TO SIGN, I'D SAY ROCK AND ROLL, BUT THAT'S JUST ME. AND THE LAST THING IS, IS ROB MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS SOME INFRASTRUCTURE DAMAGE TO ONE OF THE FIBER LINES THAT IS NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE. AND SO I WILL BE PUTTING ON MY NASTY LETTER HAT AND WRITING THAT TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY FOR THAT, THE CONTRACTOR THAT DAMAGED OUR LINE, THAT KIND OF STUFF. OR IS IT GENERAL CITY INSURANCE STUFF? IT'S LEAGUE WILL NOT COVER THESE KINDS OF WIRES AND LINES AND UNDERGROUND. UNDERGROUND. YEP. SO IT'S IT'S EXCLUDED FROM OUR POLICY. IT'S AN EXTRA COVERAGE YOU CAN BUY. OKAY. SO IT'S FINE. DON'T, DON'T. YEAH. BECAUSE IT IS REALLY EXPENSIVE. 
          OKAY. BUT WE CAN TRUST YOU ALL TO DO THE COST BENEFIT ON THAT. BUT YEAH, WE'LL MAKE A CLAIM WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND WE SHOULD BE FINE. OKAY, COOL. AWESOME. THANK YOU. AND CITY 
          [14. City Administrator]
ADMINISTRATOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON OUR ALPR SYSTEM, OUR FLOCK CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE. WE EVEN SET UP A DEDICATED EMAIL ADDRESS, FLOCK 
          [00:50:06]
INFO@STILLWATER.GOV TO COLLECT ALL OF THAT FEEDBACK. SO WE DON'T RESPOND TO EVERY SINGLE EMAIL THAT WE GET INDIVIDUALLY, BUT WE TRY TO HARVEST ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND THEN UPDATE OUR WEBSITE ACCORDINGLY. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE UPDATED, WE ONLY SHARE WITH MINNESOTA CITIES OR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. NOW, WE'VE UPDATED OUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS TO TRY AND PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE QUESTIONS WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THOSE EMAILS. WE'VE ANSWERED DOZENS OF EMAILS DIRECTLY, WHETHER IT WAS COUNCIL OR STAFF. 
          WE DID TRY TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE THAT WE COULD WHEN WE HAD TIME. WE'VE PROVIDED MAPS, POLICIES, STATUTES, PRIVACY POLICY AND A TRUST RESOURCE PAGE. AND THEN FINALLY A COPY OF OUR BIANNUAL AUDIT THAT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE NO WRONG USING OF THE ALPR SYSTEM. WE GET AUDITED EVERY OTHER YEAR. THERE WAS NO FINDINGS IN THAT AUDIT. IT WAS COMPLETELY CLEAN. 
          SO I THINK IT'S LOOKING TOWARDS WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS. I THINK WE'VE PROVIDED ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN. I MEAN, WE'RE STARTING TO GET CHATGPT QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PURCHASING POLICY NOW. I MEAN, IT'S GONE BEYOND FLOCK AS A WHOLE. AND SO SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE KIND OF STARTED TO VET OUT AMONG STAFF IS HAVING POTENTIALLY CAPTAIN JULIEN OR ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL AS TO WHAT FLOCK IS, OR PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT IT IS NOT. RIGHT. I'M GETTING THAT ON THE RECORD, SOME POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE ENGAGEMENT, WHETHER IT'S LIKE GETTING A THIRD PARTY FACILITATOR, THAT'S LIKE A NEUTRAL PARTY, GATHERING COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMMENTS ON FLOCK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, OR EVEN AN OPEN HOUSE STYLE. THEY CALL IT KIND OF A WORLD CAFE WHERE YOU HAVE VARIOUS BOOTHS THAT COVER SUB TOPICS OF ALPR, AND PEOPLE CAN KIND OF COME AND GO AS AN OPEN HOUSE. BUT I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, IF NOTHING ELSE, WE SHOULD WORK WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE, OUR LEGISLATORS TO WORK ON CRAFTING LEGISLATION TO PROVIDE CLARITY ACROSS THE STATE FOR 2027. YEAH, THAT'S IT REAL QUICK, GUYS. AND YOU KNOW, I WISH LARRY AND LINDSEY WERE HERE. LINDSEY IS MAYBE DOING SOME KIND OF COMMUNITY EVENT, OPEN HOUSE SOMETHING. AND I'M FINE WITH THAT. IT'S IT IS SUCH A TOUGH ISSUE. LIKE I IN OUR LAST MEETING AND OUR LAST PREVIOUS FEW MEETINGS, I'VE ALWAYS OFFERED TO MEET WITH ANYBODY TO TALK WITH ANYBODY. AND I WAS FORTUNATE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, I PROBABLY HAD, I DON'T KNOW, EIGHT, NINE AND TEN KIND OF IN-PERSON SMALL GROUP MEETINGS AROUND STILLWATER. AND IT WAS SUPER INSIGHTFUL FOR ME TO TALK TO PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS. I'M SURE. I MEAN, I'VE PROBABLY HAD A COUPLE HUNDRED, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE AT VARIOUS EVENTS. AND I KIND OF LEANED INTO IT. I STARTED GOING OUT OF MY WAY AND JUST BEING LIKE, HAVE YOU SEEN THE STUFF? LIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS LIKE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DEAL? AND I EVEN DID SOME DOOR KNOCKING IN YOUR WARD. IT'S PRETTY FUN. IT'S BEEN A MINUTE. AND, AND THERE'S KIND OF, THERE'S JUST SUCH A VAST AREA OR DISTANCE BETWEEN HOW ANY ONE PERSON FEELS ABOUT THESE THINGS. 
          THAT MAKES IT REALLY, REALLY HARD FROM A COMMUNICATION STANDPOINT. BUT THERE WERE THERE WERE KIND OF A FEW. LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS I CAN SAY FOR CERTAIN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, IS EVERYBODY AGAINST THIS OR EVERYBODY FOR THIS? I THINK THAT'S NOT AT ALL ACCURATE TO SAY. I WOULD SAY THAT THE BULK OF PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT WE'RE AIMING FOR APATHY, BUT REALLY DON'T CARE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PERFECTLY FINE WITH IT. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT WHATSOEVER. I HEARD THAT A LOT. AND THEN THERE ARE CERTAINLY SOME PEOPLE THAT REALLY DO NOT LIKE THESE THINGS, RIGHT. AND THAT'S THAT'S ALSO TRUE. BUT SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY'RE NOT LIKE HOW WE GOT HERE SEEMED TO REALLY RESONATE. LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PRIOR TO MUELLER BEING HERE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SECURITY CAMERAS DOWNTOWN WHEN THE ARYAN COWBOYS ROLLED THROUGH AND STARTED HARASSING A WOMAN. WE COULDN'T PROSECUTE. WE COULDN'T SEE WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. I THINK WE HAD A COUPLE ODDS BY ONE OF OUR BATHROOMS. I DON'T THINK THEY DIED, BUT IT WAS NOT GOOD. THERE WAS A BUNCH OF CALLS ABOUT POTENTIAL DRUG DEALING AND STUFF BY OUR BATHROOMS DOWNTOWN. I FORGOT ABOUT THE RACIST VANDALISM THAT WAS SPRAY PAINTS AND STICKERS AND NAZI STUFF. RACIST STUFF. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE. I'M LIKE, REMEMBER HOW WE WERE KIND OF LIKE THE SPOT TO BE FOR POLITICAL DEMONSTRATIONS AND RALLIES FOR A WHILE, WHERE WE HAD PEOPLE IN LOWELL PARK AND ON MAIN STREET WITH A AR 15. SO THE COMMUNITY KIND OF REACHED OUT AT THAT POINT AND SAID, WHY DO WE NOT HAVE CAMERAS LIKE EVERY OTHER CITY HAS SECURITY CAMERAS. AND SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE TAKING A STEP BACK AND THEN WHAT, WHAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS PROMPTED WERE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO SYSTEMS, RIGHT? BETWEEN OUR BASICALLY TRADITIONAL PTZ SECURITY CAMERAS THAT DO WHAT EVERY OTHER SECURITY CAMERA DOES AND ALPR. AND SO LIKE, I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO LIKE, AND WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING ALMOST ENTIRELY ON ALPR, RIGHT? AND THEN PEOPLE READ ABOUT THE NORMAL SECURITY CAMERAS, THE PTZ, AND, AND THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DO BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH FROM THE SAME COMPANY. AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF ONE MAIN ISSUE. AND 
          [00:55:01]
THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, I MEAN, THAT WAS THAT WAS A BIG PART OF IT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF EXPLAINING HOW THE CITY OF STILLWATER WORKS, LIKE DYNAMICALLY OR LIKE NOT DYNAMICALLY, BUT PRACTICALLY. LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TELL THE CHIEF HOW TO DO HIS JOB. RIGHT. WE CAN HIRE AND FIRE CHIEF, BUT WE CAN'T TELL THEM HOW TO DO THAT. WE CAN'T TELL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HOW TO PUT OUT FIRES THAT'S REGULATED BY THE NATIONAL, WHATEVER NFSB, WHATEVER THAT TELLS US. WE NEED 30 MORE OF THEM. YOU KNOW, LIKE WE THERE'S LIKE. AND ONCE THEY UNDERSTOOD THOSE ROLES, THAT MADE THINGS BECOME A LOT CLEARER TO THEM TOO. I'M LIKE, I'M NOT SURE YOU WANT MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS DEFINING HOW PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE DO THEIR JOBS. LIKE, WE CAN'T TELL OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR HOW TO DO THEIR JOB RIGHT. THERE'S REASONS FOR THIS. AND SO THAT KIND OF IT SEPARATED THE CONVERSATION INTO LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S KIND OF OUR ROLE HERE VERSUS I THINK AI IS SCARY, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY DOES. RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S POLICY THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN DC. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE STILLWATER CITY COUNCIL MEETING, RIGHT KIND OF THING. SO AT THE END OF IT, AND THE ONLY REASON I BRING IT UP IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE CONVERSATIONS WERE HUGELY FRUITFUL. WE'VE GOT WE CAN DO BETTER WITH OUR TRANSPARENCY PORTAL. I SENT YOU THAT ONE FROM FRIDLEY THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY GOOD. THERE'S THERE'S MORE DISTINCTION BECAUSE IT'S TECH AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NUANCED. LIKE THERE'S JUST, WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP PUTTING INFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES, WHAT THIS IS WHAT THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS IS WHAT THIS IS NOT FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN STILLWATER. AND THEN ALSO, YES, WORKING WITH OUR STATE REPS AND EVERYBODY TO, TO KIND OF WORK ON THAT AS WELL. 
          BUT EVERYBODY KIND OF GOT THAT. LIKE THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE DECIDING HOW THE POLICE DO THEIR JOB, FREAK MOST PEOPLE OUT ENOUGH TO BE LIKE, OKAY, I KIND OF GET THAT. SO IT WAS GOOD. BUT AGAIN, IT WAS, IT WAS LABOROUS. RIGHT? IT WAS SUPER FUN. IT WAS VERY INSIGHTFUL, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SCALE UP THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD. 
          RIGHT. I MEAN, I SERIOUSLY, I MET WITH EIGHT OR 9 OR 10 DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE ON FRONT PORCHES AND GARAGES AND LIVING ROOMS, COFFEE SHOPS, PHONE CALLS, YOU KNOW, IN THE LINE AT KOHL'S MAKING A RETURN FOR AMAZON. LIKE, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN A LOT. AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S, IT'S ABSOLUTELY FAIR TO SAY THAT TO ME THAT THE BULK OF PEOPLE REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS. NOT TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS WHAT IT IS AND IS NOT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T. BUT I JUST AGAIN, I'M STRUGGLING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SCALE THAT. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE DEMO THAT THAT HUNTER DID WAS WAS AMAZING FOR ME JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO SIMPLE, RIGHT? SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I KNOW MAYOR BURT AND WOODBURY DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND THEY'VE RECORDED IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE IT AND DISSEMINATE IT. IT'S NOT QUITE READY YET. SO THERE ARE I DID FIND ONE EXAMPLE OF A COMMUNITY THAT'S DONE SOME EXTRA THINGS THAT I'LL CONTINUE TO SHARE. BUT WITH THAT, IT'S JUST, AGAIN, IT'S BEEN KIND OF HARD. IT'S VERY NUANCED. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE REALITY ON THE GROUND IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE REALITY WE SOMETIMES SEE HERE AND IN THE SOCIAL WEB. SO WITH THAT, KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WE'LL KEEP BUGGING. WE PROBABLY, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT WANT TO TALK ABOUT FLOC THIS EVENING, MIGHT NEED TO RECAP THAT A LITTLE BIT. PRIOR TO THAT. I CAN SAY A FEW WORDS AS WELL, BUT WE ARE MOVING THAT DOWN, 
          [V. CLOSED SESSION]
WHICH I THINK MAKES SENSE CONSIDERING ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WE HAVE. SO COOL WITH THAT. PURSUANT TO MINNESOTA STATUTES, SECTION 13 B .0573 TO DISCUSS ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE COMMUNICATION REGARDING THE ASSESSMENT APPEAL, AND ALAN LAVALLIERE AND THE CITY OF STILLWATER. CAN WE MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION? IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION? SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE AND
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.